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Speaking of lore, was Princess Filianore mentioned or even hinted at in any Souls game prior to this DLC?
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Mar 29, 2017 00:56
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This DLC is handing me my rear end but I guess that's my fault for going in at NG+. The sorcerer guys that turtle up andturn into one of those industrial floor polishers are, however, hilarious.
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Mar 29, 2017 01:04
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Fighting the dragon on the rock path is so annoying, not because I can't get close to killing it, but because the camera angles keep making it extremely aggravating
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Mar 29, 2017 01:11
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Well this sure is a bug: (boss spoiler) I reset the boss via the monument to see if that'd make Ledo invade - nope. Turns out you can miss him, so heads up! Decided to warp to the post boss bonfire to see what would happen, fog gates block entry to the boss room unsurprisingly. Almost instantly I was blocked from touching the bonfire, and a short bit later a Spear of the Church invaded, and I think it was only when the spear hit the giant that he started his dialog. Eventually the invader crystaled out and it summoned the NPC in, at which point I was allowed to bonfire out. Really, really surprised they didn't test that.
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Mar 29, 2017 01:14
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wow this dlc's gimmick is loving stupid
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Mar 29, 2017 01:13
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anybody else get the infinite loading screen glitch on ps4? had to delete the whole game and re-download it last night  finished up the dlc today, it was definitely better then AoA but felt pretty disappointing for a capstone to the series. love that big rear end hammer though
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Mar 29, 2017 01:26
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I think I may have died to the demon prince a solid two dozen times now. I'm not sure that a pyromancer is the best choice to go through this DLC with
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Mar 29, 2017 01:32
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In regards to one of the earliest areas I'm pretty sure the roots are actually from Things Betwixt and thus are also part of DS2. Fitting considering giant magic spamming rear end in a top hat angel is also from DS2. Even the boss feels kind of appropriate for DS2, as it looks closer to a fusion of the Old Iron King and the Travel Demons than the traditional demons of Chaos from Dark Souls
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Mar 29, 2017 01:43
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So about a boss, I'm still catching up in my new save but; Old Monk 2.0 what happens if you're playing offline?
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Mar 29, 2017 01:46
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nominal posted:I think I may have died to the demon prince a solid two dozen times now. I'm not sure that a pyromancer is the best choice to go through this DLC with Are they also resistant to dark pyros? I've heard that the black iron greatshield or the black knight shield makes the fight far easier if you are a big sissy
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Mar 29, 2017 01:47
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Okay the new covenant owns.
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Okay. Okay. Okay. ... okay. Am I seriously the only person here who absolutely loves the DLC? Yeah, the cover-based bullshit probably didn't need an encore, and it was probably a poor idea to jam-pack the map with painless "lethal" falls given the number of actually lethal falls they managed to squeeze in there. But holy poo poo, I am digging this. The maps are both sprawling and dense with secrets and passageways, the encounters are really well-plotted, varied, and difficult, and I've been having a blast with the boss fights. I don't know if it was scripted or if it was some weird glitch, but I got warped into someone's boss fight even though I wasn't even a member of the covenant that does the invasions, but dropping some poor fool whose only crime was running into me, the world's most important badass. Like, no, it isn't DkS1's DLC because it isn't literally the most beautiful thing man has ever created, but I'm having the time of my life with this installment. Oh, but I also actually don't know anything about the lore at all. I think there's a fire and a cycle? I'm not really qualified to judge the story.
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Mar 29, 2017 01:52
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I like this DLC and the only blemish so far is that loving dragon boss. How did that poo poo get past play testing with such terrible camera control and wonky hit boxes. I'm enjoying the new weapons, new covenant and new fashion that's available. I'll have to try the new spells before I can make a judgement on them. Also the length is much better and I think FROM finally learned how to make a good swamp zone without relying on making your players wish the rusted iron ring was in the game.
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Mar 29, 2017 01:57
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I'm too far in all things considered, but I am also really enjoying it.
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Mar 29, 2017 01:59
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Nuebot posted:So about a boss, I'm still catching up in my new save but; Old Monk 2.0 what happens if you're playing offline? You just fight an NPC and it's laughably easy  Time_pants posted:Am I seriously the only person here who absolutely loves the DLC? Nah I'm loving the heck out of it. I said it before, they really cranked up the "holy poo poo" factor to 11.  e: I'm also really enjoying the lore as well as the schadenfreude from people who are angry at it Your Computer fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Mar 29, 2017 02:01
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At least the offline version of the Spear fight has some actual abilities and moves, as opposed to the Old Monk offline NPC who was just some dude with claws and Homing Soulmass. 
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So I'm trying to improve my damage output on my Sword-and-Board build. Here's her layout: Level 80 (finished Ariandel DLC, haven't beaten Lothric yet, nor Archdragon) +10 Raw Claymore +8 Lothric Shield No bells or whistles, no spells besides a little faith to do Tears of Denial. Stats are: VIG: 31 ATT: 14 END: 30 VIT: 22 STR: 26 DEX: 16 INT: 9 FTH: 18 Luck: 7 What can I do to improve my overall damage at this point? What adjustments to this build would work out well?
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8-Bit Scholar posted:So I'm trying to improve my damage output on my Sword-and-Board build. EDIT: At your stats a Claymore +10 has 376 AR and a Raw Claymore +10 has 345 AR. Heavy Claymore +10 would bump that to 416 AR. You need to Heavy infuse it ASAP.
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Mar 29, 2017 02:10
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Azuth0667 posted:I like this DLC and the only blemish so far is that loving dragon boss. How did that poo poo get past play testing with such terrible camera control and wonky hit boxes. I'm enjoying the new weapons, new covenant and new fashion that's available. I'll have to try the new spells before I can make a judgement on them. Also the length is much better and I think FROM finally learned how to make a good swamp zone without relying on making your players wish the rusted iron ring was in the game. So like every other dragon fight in the series barring Singh, it's poo poo? Also I feel compelled to ask again; what's the scaling on the cool rear end fire sword? I want that more than any other weapon I've seen from the DLC so I might just build around it.
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Mar 29, 2017 02:18
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Nuebot posted:So like every other dragon fight in the series barring Singh, it's poo poo?
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Mar 29, 2017 02:22
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Nuebot posted:So like every other dragon fight in the series barring Singh, it's poo poo? Nah it's worse. Everything that isn't his head takes like 70% less damage, so you're either blinding swinging your weapon at where you think his head is offscreen or you fight the camera even harder. It's a shame too because his moveset is pretty good and fun and during my first couple of attempts I thought I was gonna like the boss, but in the end it... wasn't a lot of fun. Unrelated; it's not just me, Ultra Greatswords are the new Straight Swords right? This DLC is so much easier with an UGS than what I did on my first playthrough (straight sword and spear, it's tradition) 
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Nuebot posted:So like every other dragon fight in the series barring Singh, it's poo poo? Yeah basically the more that I think about it Sinh is probably the best FROM has done with a fight like that. The blade the demon prince soul transposes into is -/E/D/D (S/D/I/F). I'm going through the DLC again to get it.
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Mar 29, 2017 02:23
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how do you access the area to the right of the fall above the second bonfire in the dlc? i fell down there once by accident and can't figure out how
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Mar 29, 2017 02:25
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Time_pants posted:Am I seriously the only person here who absolutely loves the DLC? Yeah, the cover-based bullshit probably didn't need an encore, and it was probably a poor idea to jam-pack the map with painless "lethal" falls given the number of actually lethal falls they managed to squeeze in there. It's my favorite Souls DLC so no, you ain't the only one. I'm really enjoying the challenge but nothing feels bullshit like some of the jankier parts of the older games. It still has jank but I mean, it's a Souls game and I've never cared that enemies can phase some attacks through walls or any of that poo poo. Azuth0667 posted:I like this DLC and the only blemish so far is that loving dragon boss. How did that poo poo get past play testing with such terrible camera control and wonky hit boxes. I'm enjoying the new weapons, new covenant and new fashion that's available. I'll have to try the new spells before I can make a judgement on them. Also the length is much better and I think FROM finally learned how to make a good swamp zone without relying on making your players wish the rusted iron ring was in the game. I actually really liked the dragon, he's very hard at first but once you learn his moves he falls over, which is how it should be. I thought his hitboxes were actually really good, it's just that he's so big that when he moves the camera can make you feel like stuff that should have hit didn't. That's just a camera angle thing though, not a hitbox thing, if you could see it from another angle you'd see how you were actually whiffing. It's really noticeable when you go for his head, he loves to move it back up out of range and his size plus the camera angle makes it really hard to judge the right distance. Once I got used to it I could land hits every time though. Using a longer weapon (I beat him with the Old Wolf Curved Sword) helps a lot. AttackBacon fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Anyone care to help me get a moonlight greatsword? I have it on an alt but need help transfering it to my sorc. Steam name is the same as my SA name. edit: done
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Mar 29, 2017 02:27
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What's up with the "greatsword" that's actually a halberd that the old lady at the beginning of Ringed City sells you? It seems like it completely sucks and was just kind of shoved in there.
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Mar 29, 2017 02:41
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What am I supposed to do about the Demon Prince as a pyromancer if he never lands, on the off chance he does he resists fire, dark, and based on my summons, and lightning and blunt and sharp and pierce, and he has an instant kill meteor storm with extra fire resist and absorption and eating red bugs? Just pray he lands and never casts the "you lose" spell? The first phases are fine enough but when he goes to town I can't seem to get him past half.
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Yeah I'd like to know how you dodge his meteor storm. I know you can stagger him to gently caress up his cast, but given his mobility its very easy for him to get away with casting it. I was never able to avoid it. The meteors just homed in and crushed me.
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Internet Kraken posted:Yeah I'd like to know how you dodge his meteor storm. I know you can stagger him to gently caress up his cast, but given his mobility its very easy for him to get away with casting it. I was never able to avoid it. The meteors just homed in and crushed me. Exactly! I know you can dodge them up close on occasion, but if he does the flame aoe pulse first, then you're dead anyway.
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As far as I know, depending on which of the first phases you kill, he'll have a laser blast instead of chaos meteors. They're a lot easier to evade.
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Mar 29, 2017 02:58
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:How much attunement should I be aiming for as a mage? I don't think anyone replied to this, but for my pyromancer I ended up going with 27 attunement. You get like 200 FP at that level, and your ashen estus flasks will only regen 200 FP per swig, so that's where I stopped.
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Mar 29, 2017 02:58
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Tahjir posted:As far as I know, depending on which of the first phases you kill, he'll have a laser blast instead of chaos meteors. They're a lot easier to evade. If this is true, that's pretty big. I've never seen him do the meteors, but the laser is "please come hit me some more and probably do a riposte"-mode. Have I accidentally been killing the first phase in the same order every time? e: it would also explain why I thought he was super easy and others are saying he's super hard, I guess. I'm sorry if I doubted anyone Your Computer fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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MuffinsAndPie posted:I don't think anyone replied to this, but for my pyromancer I ended up going with 27 attunement. You get like 200 FP at that level, and your ashen estus flasks will only regen 200 FP per swig, so that's where I stopped. 30 is the ideal stopping point unless you need more attunment slots. Though you can go for less since the estus going over isnt that big of a deal. Basically first go for how many slots you need, then only put extra points into it when you have nothing else to max until it hits 30.
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Tahjir posted:As far as I know, depending on which of the first phases you kill, he'll have a laser blast instead of chaos meteors. They're a lot easier to evade. I thought he did both my last attempt but I may be confusing two of them together. Finally beat him with the help of a sorcerer buddy named Magic Spammer. I guess they're weak to sorcery and not much else. What's the more fun thing to make out of his soul? e: It was a pretty cool fight but drat those resistances are high RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Mar 29, 2017 03:04
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I just did my first go at the last boss and got him to about 1/4th hp remaining before he wore me down but this fight is actually extremely awesome?? What did people not like about it exactly? It feels like one of the best fights in the series (hot take from a single attempt). Edit: Got him on the third try, what a sick fight. For me, that was a perfect send off to the series. AttackBacon fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Mar 29, 2017 03:05
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I've seen people talking about triggering the credits during the DLC? How? I've killed the final boss, optional boss, done the hollow npc quest, and given the pigment to the painter.
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AttackBacon posted:I just did my first go at the last boss and got him to about 1/4th hp remaining before he wore me down but this fight is actually extremely awesome?? What did people not like about it exactly? It feels like one of the best fights in the series (hot take from a single attempt). I've seen several people disappointed that it's not Gwyn, again. Or anything else from DS1, because y'know, the Dark Souls community. For real though, god drat what an amazing fight. It's everything I wanted  On my first attempt I was 1 hit from winning, with 0 estus (through facetanking and pure luck), then greed got me. Next couple of attempts I went in shieldless and just did phase 1 over and over until I could do it without getting hit. Amazingly fun fight, and a good example of what I think are the best fights in the series 1-on-1, no gimmicks, telegraphed attacks, hits like a truck, tight dodge timing and most importantly, fair.
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Azuth0667 posted:Yeah basically the more that I think about it Sinh is probably the best FROM has done with a fight like that. The blade the demon prince soul transposes into is -/E/D/D (S/D/I/F). I'm going through the DLC again to get it. I don't mean the curved one, I mean the one you ignite because that looks sick. I don't know if it's a great sword or what. After spending like a week playing Nier Automata I'm just wrecking this game though.
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Your Computer posted:Nah it's worse. Everything that isn't his head takes like 70% less damage, so you're either blinding swinging your weapon at where you think his head is offscreen or you fight the camera even harder. It's a shame too because his moveset is pretty good and fun and during my first couple of attempts I thought I was gonna like the boss, but in the end it... wasn't a lot of fun. Yeah the only dragon fight this isn't worse than is the ancient dragon. Which isn't saying much because the ancient dragon is the single worst boss in the entire series.
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