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Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

I'm not saying putin is worse than erdogan, I'm saying erdogan doesn't have 6000 mirvs at his disposal, please pay attention

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icantfindaname: Jul 1, 2008

Truga posted:

I'm not saying putin is worse than erdogan, I'm saying erdogan doesn't have 6000 mirvs at his disposal, please pay attention

The only country to have used nuclear weapons is the one run by Donald Trump and a close historical ally of Turkey

# ? Mar 28, 2017 11:54

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

Show me where I was defending US use of nuclear weapons. Or anything done any time recently by US for that matter. Realizing putin is a bigger problem doesn't mean those other things are suddenly better.

Truga fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Mar 28, 2017

# ? Mar 28, 2017 11:55

Collateral Damage: Jun 13, 2009

This is the internet. Every argument is black and white and if you oppose A that means you support B.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 12:05

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

icantfindaname posted:

I dunno, Erdogan seems much more immediately likely to commit genocide against the Kurds than Putin does against anyone.

Ask a chechen how they feel about that sentiment.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 12:07

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

It's ok, putin is only openly killing gays, infidels and journalists. Those are not ethnic groups, so it's fine!

# ? Mar 28, 2017 12:09

YF-23: Feb 17, 2011; My god, it's full of cat!

e^; I don't think there's much productive to be gained by competing in dictatorship olympics to try to figure out who is the lesser evil in the case of Erdogan and Putin. They're both bad, and if anything I'd say that Erdogan's power trip being a much more recent deal makes him more unpredictable.

Cat Mattress posted:

For that alone, that makes him the greatest President of our time.

I know very little about modern French political history, who were the "good" presidents after WW2?

# ? Mar 28, 2017 13:02

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

The dead ones.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 13:31

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

Tesseraction posted:

The dead ones.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 13:31

Cat Mattress: Jul 14, 2012; by Cyrano4747

Tesseraction posted:

The dead ones.

I could allow Mitterrand (even though...) but I really have to take exception at Pompidou.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 14:00

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Le G�n�ral :france:

# ? Mar 28, 2017 14:12

Kurtofan: Feb 16, 2011; hon hon hon

pomidou gave us a modern art museum

# ? Mar 28, 2017 14:15

A Buttery Pastry: Sep 4, 2011; Delicious and Informative!

MiddleOne posted:

Kazakhstan manages somehow despite Putin dropping hints along the lines of 'hey guys you have no history so why not join Russia' every year.

It manages because China is trying to build an empire in Central Asia.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 16:47

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

YF-23 posted:

I know very little about modern French political history, who were the "good" presidents after WW2?

Giscard was Alright In The Rave.

# ? Mar 28, 2017 16:48

Bourricot: Aug 7, 2016

YF-23 posted:

I know very little about modern French political history, who were the "good" presidents after WW2?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGYxYMJQCmM

# ? Mar 28, 2017 17:46

orange sky: May 7, 2007

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orange sky fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Mar 28, 2017

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Cugel the Clever: Apr 5, 2009; I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

icantfindaname posted:

Its because establishment liberals have embarked on a full-intensity mccarthyist campaign to make russia the great satan and to use that as a bludgeon to force their domestic opposition to shut up and get back in line after they realized they're losing their grip on power

For whatever reason the american political establishment likes china a lot more than russia

loool, I thought this was a joke post until I saw the user's other stupidity. Get all your news from Russian state media, eh?

# ? Mar 28, 2017 18:35

suck my woke dick: Oct 10, 2012; I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Cugel the Clever posted:

loool, I thought this was a joke post until I saw the user's other stupidity. Get all your news from Russian state media, eh?

no he just really loving hates liberals, so because liberals think russia is worse than merica, merica is actually worse than russia

# ? Mar 28, 2017 21:05

LemonDrizzle: Mar 28, 2012; neoliberal shithead

Spring is in the air, so of course it's time for the usual suspects to start talking tough on migration!

Step up, Mr. Orb�n: http://www.euractiv.com/section/elections/news/hungary-ready-to-detain-all-migrants/

quote:

Hungary said yesterday (27 March) it was ready to begin detaining asylum-seekers in camps on its southern border with Serbia after passing a law this month that has drawn criticism from rights groups and the UN.
Hungary�s parliament approved on 7 March the systematic detention of all asylum-seekers in camps on the border composed of converted shipping containers.
The move was part of policies by hardline anti-immigration Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orb�n, a strong admirer of US President Donald Trump.
From Tuesday, asylum-seekers entering Hungary as well as those currently in the country will be confined in camps at its southern borders while their applications are processed.
�The border protection agencies are fully prepared for the entry into force of the reinforced legal border closure on 28 March,� said a statement by the interior ministry.
...
EU member Hungary previously systematically detained all asylum applicants but suspended the practise in 2013 under pressure from Brussels, the UN refugee agency and the European Court of Human Rights.
Rights groups like Amnesty International have condemned the new rules for failing to meet Hungary�s international obligations to asylum-seekers.

Go, Herr Kern: http://www.politico.eu/article/austria-wants-to-be-excluded-from-eu-refugee-scheme/

quote:

Austria said it wants to be excused from taking in more asylum seekers under the EU�s relocation scheme, Chancellor Christian Kern said Tuesday, according to Reuters.
�We believe an exception is necessary for Austria for having already fulfilled its obligation. We will discuss that with the European Commission,� Kern said, adding that his government will outline its position in writing.
�We are of the opinion � that the people in question here already sought an asylum application or arrived in Italy or Greece,� he said. �We must check whether we have already fulfilled our quota and discharged our obligation.�

# ? Mar 28, 2017 21:11

unpacked robinhood: Feb 18, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

Penelope is getting her own indictment too

# ? Mar 28, 2017 21:51

Sneaks McDevious: Jul 29, 2010; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

unpacked robinhood posted:

Penelope is getting her own indictment too

Lol I love this so much

# ? Mar 28, 2017 23:29

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

LemonDrizzle posted:

Step up, Mr. Orb�n: http://www.euractiv.com/section/elections/news/hungary-ready-to-detain-all-migrants/

I recently read The Ballad of the Whiskey Robber (2004), which was about Attila Ambrus' robbery spree during Orban's first presidency. Both Atilla and the author why Orban and his BFF, Sandor Pinter, kept getting elected/appointed.

I see nothing has changed

# ? Mar 29, 2017 04:19

Flowers For Algeria: Dec 3, 2005; I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.

Arch-traitor Manuel Valls has just declared that he will be voting for Emmanuel Macron, rather than for the man he shares a party affiliation with and against whom he lost in a primary, Beno�t Hamon.

This election owns

# ? Mar 29, 2017 07:53

Sneaks McDevious: Jul 29, 2010; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

The PS will need more than a LR-style rebrand after this. What a disaster....

# ? Mar 29, 2017 08:21

ElNarez: Nov 4, 2009

Flowers For Algeria posted:

Arch-traitor Manuel Valls has just declared that he will be voting for Emmanuel Macron, rather than for the man he shares a party affiliation with and against whom he lost in a primary, Beno�t Hamon.

This election owns

also to be in the primary Valls had to sign an agreement saying he'd support the winner of said primary

Valls is a goddamn fucker and I hope this sinks Macron hard, which I know can happen, because right after Valls announced, Macron said this

https://twitter.com/afpfr/status/846977456720560128

# ? Mar 29, 2017 08:32

Andrast: Apr 21, 2010

ElNarez posted:

also to be in the primary Valls had to sign an agreement saying he'd support the winner of said primary

Valls is a goddamn fucker and I hope this sinks Macron hard

Why would this sink Macron?

# ? Mar 29, 2017 08:33

ElNarez: Nov 4, 2009

Andrast posted:

Why would this sink Macron?

Macron's whole thing is that he's this radically new force in politics, outside of the old party structure. A former Prime Minister, coming from the PS, after he lost his primary, is the exact opposite of that. And said primary showed that most of the people leaning left cannot stand Valls.

# ? Mar 29, 2017 08:36

Lord of the Llamas: Jul 9, 2002; EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

ElNarez posted:

Macron's whole thing is that he's this radically new force in politics, outside of the old party structure. A former Prime Minister, coming from the PS, after he lost his primary, is the exact opposite of that. And said primary showed that most of the people leaning left cannot stand Valls.

So it's a bit like how whenever Tony Blair says anything the opposite of what he wants immediately becomes more popular?

Which reminds me of the best ever YouGov article :3:

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# ? Mar 29, 2017 09:13

Sneaks McDevious: Jul 29, 2010; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

ElNarez posted:

Macron's whole thing is that he's this radically new force in politics, outside of the old party structure. A former Prime Minister, coming from the PS, after he lost his primary, is the exact opposite of that. And said primary showed that most of the people leaning left cannot stand Valls.

Macron has rebuffed other PS refugees. He can't stop them voting for him however. It's not like this is some grand deal with Valls.

# ? Mar 29, 2017 10:06

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

julian assflange posted:

Macron has rebuffed other PS refugees. He can't stop them voting for him however. It's not like this is some grand deal with Valls.

At this point, he doesn't need to rebuff Valls himself, most of the people from the PS he accepted are Vallfistes and it's everything but an accident. He actually better refuse Valls himself because accepting it, it would make it looks like Hollande has gone full Buffalo Bill on him and is just wearing his face. The "Hollande was hiding inside Macron all along" right-wing talking point is going to score big this week. Now, a few bad polls and Melenchon is probably going to ask Hamon to remove himself, and it's going to be Hamon's not good pretty bad week.

# ? Mar 29, 2017 10:35

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Flowers For Algeria posted:

Arch-traitor Manuel Valls has just declared that he will be voting for Emmanuel Macron, rather than for the man he shares a party affiliation with and against whom he lost in a primary, Beno�t Hamon.

This election owns

https://twitter.com/montebourg/status/846978332885504001

"Now everyone knows what a pledge sworn on the honor of a man like Manuel Valls is worth: Nothing. And what a man with no honor is worth."

:munch:

# ? Mar 29, 2017 10:45

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Kassad posted:

https://twitter.com/montebourg/status/846978332885504001

"Now everyone knows what a pledge sworn on the honor of a man like Manuel Valls is worth: Nothing. And what a man with no honor is worth."

Marc Antony Montebourg.

# ? Mar 29, 2017 10:54