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Most people will play with and open 0 of these anyway. It's not really a big deal.
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mcmagic posted:Most people will play with and open 0 of these anyway. It's not really a big deal.
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Mar 29, 2017 05:22
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Guess what, cards that change the frame in some way aren't going to be legal under current rules. This isn't some humorous observation. DFCs 'weren't legal' when they were announced too.
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Mar 29, 2017 05:24
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Maro said in a tweet that they're black bordered
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Mar 29, 2017 05:26
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bigperm posted:This is true for all magic cards. I mean most magic players...
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Death Bot posted:Maro said in a tweet that they're black bordered https://twitter.com/TrickMTG/status/846850855626145792 Doesn't look black bordered to me. Maybe this is a proof of concept they had lying around.
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Mar 29, 2017 05:38
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YggdrasilTM posted:And you say that the card is supposed to be readable because...?  QED. Hell, maybe they should have made them almost completely unreadable, if this is the case. I think people would have complained less. YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Mar 29, 2017 05:53
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there is a black border in between the blue color box and the type line, it's not super prominent so i understand missing it tbh i assume this is what maro is talking about cause otherwise idk wtf
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Mar 29, 2017 05:54
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Mar 29, 2017 05:55
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Alris posted:https://twitter.com/TrickMTG/status/846850855626145792 It looks better in video? It still looks like something you'd get out of a capsule machine at a Pizza Hut in 1995, but hey
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Chill la Chill posted:New inserts own. Love that counterspell and counterbalance. Wish there was a top to go with it. ....huh. I literally could picture a Sensei's Divining Top Invention in my head, but apparently I made that up. Did someone post a mockup of one in this thread? The art was like a cybernetic dreidel on a podium, really orangey color scheme with blue lines on the Top itself. Rinkles posted:Who cares, they define the rules. Having a shiny border like these are is super dangerous in a tournament, because if the top card of your library peeks out the top of your sleeve and it's all shiny, it looks super suspicious if it's the only card like it in your deck. From Trick's video, that foiling on top is going to be visible with the card flat face down. YggdrasilTM posted:
I would have enjoyed them being in hieroglyphics more than this, except BARKACTUAL is hilarious. Death Bot posted:Maro said in a tweet that they're black bordered The gently caress they are, MaRo. https://twitter.com/maro254/status/846936757463629824
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Hellsau posted:....huh. I literally could picture a Sensei's Divining Top Invention in my head, but apparently I made that up. Did someone post a mockup of one in this thread?
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Mar 29, 2017 07:05
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A big flaming stink posted:You're not talking about the eternal masters reprint are you? no that thing is more hideous than the invocations
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Mar 29, 2017 07:08
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it would be pretty cool if we got curses in this set.
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Hellsau posted:....huh. I literally could picture a Sensei's Divining Top Invention in my head, but apparently I made that up. I assume there's no senseis on kaladesh since it's fantasy not-actually-that-similar-to-india instead of fantasy japan
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The more I look at the invocations, the more I kinda want to see them in The 3d effect they were going for might end up looking goofy-cool enough to redeem them. Mail me your BARK ACTUALS, tia. Siivola fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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I asked my friend about them last night, because she has an art degree (or maybe graphic design specifically?). She didn't go too indepth, but I got this out of it all:my friend posted:I sincerely hope someone wasn't actually paid for this or thinks they can get paid for this Also, loving how they put multicoloured cards in, at least with Cryptic Command you can guess "Ok 1 colourless, the rest are all the same".
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Mar 29, 2017 09:23
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What sid she find the biggest offender?
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Siivola posted:What sid she find the biggest offender? [2:22:15 AM] Serperoth: wanna offer a #graffidesign opinionion? [2:23:35 AM] my friend: I can try [2:26:18 AM] Serperoth: https://i.imgur.com/Vuu2T5q.png [2:26:48 AM] my friend: well [2:26:56 AM] my friend: I have my opinion already lmao [2:27:01 AM] my friend: But what did u want to ask about [2:27:48 AM] Serperoth: does it look as bad as i think it does? [2:28:06 AM] Serperoth: both on the legibility front, and on the "looks" front [2:28:58 AM] my friend: well [2:29:02 AM] my friend: How nice do u want me to be [2:29:07 AM] my friend: Like is this yours [2:29:21 AM] Serperoth: i'd be insulted if it were [2:29:26 AM] my friend: ok good [2:29:34 AM] my friend: Because it's ugly as sin lmao [2:29:34 AM] Serperoth: (or, well, it'd make sense, i don't know poo poo about design so) [2:29:40 AM] my friend: like [2:29:53 AM] my friend: Why are they using that font for like, you know, the title of the card [2:29:58 AM] my friend: Essential information [2:30:24 AM] my friend: Like it looks like something I would have made in high school [2:30:24 AM] Serperoth: Oh speaking of font [2:30:44 AM] Serperoth: http://mythicspoiler.com/akh/cards/crypticcommand.jpg The card is called Cryptic Command, not MICRYPTICCOMAND!? [2:30:58 AM] Serperoth: (idk if u know what a 'normal' magic card looks like, btw) [2:31:12 AM] my friend: I can get into specifics if u want me to critique it but it can pretty much be summed up as "I sincerely hope someone wasn't actually paid for this or thinks they can get paid for this" [2:32:10 AM] my friend: This one looks better but it's still a bit of a mess [2:32:42 AM] Serperoth: http://mythicspoiler.com/ here's all that they have so far (the Invocations down the page) [2:33:43 AM] my friend: Wait so these are actually official or what [2:33:55 AM] my friend: Idk anything about tcgs because I'm not a NERD I mean it's all gonna be subjective and to be honest this is just like Bad honestly It's just not good Don't have anything yet, no critique or anything, I'll ask her again if she's interested in doing one today. (some of the log was cut out cause we talked a bit about Pokemon)
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Serperoth posted:[2:33:55 AM] my friend: Idk anything about tcgs because I'm not a NERD Will this fit a thread title?
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Magic the Gathering: It's just not good Restrictions breed creativity, as Maro likes to say.
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sometimes they print bad cards, so you know what good cards look like sometimes they print bad art, so you know what good art looks like. duh
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It's all just too busy. There's the kernel of a good idea, but too much detracting from what's important (text, art) and yes it looks like a YGO card and they are loving horrendous so it's just bad to attract that comparison. Having nonsense hieroglyphs filling up the name bar makes no sense in the first place, having them before the name is actually insane. But I think the frames could be improved a lot to make them much more presentable. The top bar gives the frame a lot of apparent depth, and I think that's what detracts from the art most. The colored markings on the columns don't look great either, I think more subtle differing stone effects would have been much better. I do like the Bolas horns around the hologram.
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Mar 29, 2017 11:22
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Willeh posted:gently caress sorceries, give me an mp dark ritual. I take everything back. 
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Rinkles posted:Change who? amon/bolas
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I think the frames might look good with incredibly simple and stylised art akin to that found in Egyptian tombs. It might not matter that they were so fussy if the art itself was enough of a contrast.
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Rinkles posted:Who cares, they define the rules. I can't wait for the repeal of rules that require my cards to be easily identifiable, with legible name and mana cost, because the invocations sure as gently caress aren't. They're, like, the opposite of textless promos in that the rules text is the only part you can actually comprehend.
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Mar 29, 2017 13:34
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the list of things wrong with these cards is long, but the worst to me is the loving centered rules text
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I can't wait for the repeal of rules that require my cards to be easily identifiable, with legible name and mana cost, because the invocations sure as gently caress aren't. do not insult NITIBAZEINIT like this
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Mar 29, 2017 13:41
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I'm gonna just play a piece of paper with VALUE GUY written on it and only through having to read its rules text verbatim will the opponent realize it's supposed to be Renegade Rallier.
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Mar 29, 2017 13:42
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Please don't disrespect the hieroglyphs. You might not be able to read them but others can.
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Mar 29, 2017 13:43
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If I was to purchase one of the premade commander decks, which would be the strongest ones in terms of out-of-the-box? From other forums it seems like Plunder the Graves (Meren of Clan Nel is the commander) is among the strongest, but those evaluations are dated from before the 2016 commander were released, so im unsure how strong the 2016 commander decks are compared to the older. From mtggoldfish it seems like the strongest 2016 decks are Breya and Atraxa.
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They should have written the card names and typelines like the Rosetta Stone. Use actual hieroglyphs to render the words phonetically, then write them in English using a psuedo-Demotic typeset, and then write it one more time translated into Koine Greek with half-sized print. Also, there are some correct art opinions in this topic imho. I took thirty seconds in paint.net to explore the common sentiment that Invocations should have been illustrated with Dynastic frescos, and honestly it could have been loving great.  I'll say, though, that from those the IRL shots? Using holofoiling to imitate gold leaf in the card frames is actually a slam-dunk. quite stretched out posted:i support renaming dark ritual to bark ritual, however no that's already a card 
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The huge, glaring, 'how did these get printed' problem is how goddamn unreadable they are - awful font for the card name, no color on the frame while also using weird mana symbols. Aka the 'Baze' problem
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Having random hieroglyphs right next to actual useful card text should be a design 101 no-no. And as for the tiny loving art, if they extended the art across the entire width of the card that would make it a lot better imo. Oh and maybe don't have power/ toughness above one and another. That is just dumb. Now, fix all that and give me my mana drain. Now.
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Mar 29, 2017 14:47
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This is far funnier to me than it has any right to be. Reminiscent of https://youtu.be/mzt9USegJ-c
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Mar 29, 2017 14:52
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Alris posted:
If they had just adjusted the cartouche so that it separated the name of the card from the extraneous hieroglyphs, that would have helped immensely. I mean, in Egyptian writing, the cartouche was used to encase the royal name and nothing else, so it would make sense. The font would still be ugly, and it would still look kinda like "BAZE" but you'd at least be able to easily pick out what is part of the name and what isn't. The mockup above with the egyptian art is really pretty and if they had done that for these omg...
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