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What I will say though is that Nier just made me like really sad so if you don't want to be really sad don't play it. If your natural state is being really sad then I guess you'll enjoy it regardless of the story. edit: It's good that it made me feel that way because emotionally-driven games are very good but I also sort of regret becoming so immersed in the game's world and story now because I'm loving bummed!
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Palpek posted:Cool, the "bad" TW3 ending was the best one imo so I'm looking forward to N:A even more. When I got the bad ending in base TW3, I looked up where I screwed up and I knew what exactly I did wrong and thought it was fair I got it. I got the bad ending in B&W and I got pissed because I only got the bad ending because I didn't read some journal entries  Mordja posted:If I'm basically dead inside and don't really have any strong feelings anymore, will Nier: Automata give me that emotional hit I so desperately crave? Maybe
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Serf posted:I dunno, Life is Strange still fucks me up. And how can anyone forget the trauma of losing Aeris 20 years ago. I still think about Life is Strange at least once maybe every other day, even though it takes all of 15 hours to complete and I'll likely never touch it again. That and how STUPID it was that Angela Chase ended up with Jordan Catalano at the end of My-So Called Life and how could they cancel that show after only one season!!!
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exquisite tea posted:I still think about Life is Strange at least once maybe every other day, even though it takes all of 15 hours to complete and I'll likely never touch it again. That and how STUPID it was that Angela Chase ended up with Jordan Catalano at the end of My-So Called Life and how could they cancel that show after only one season!!! Same
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CJacobs posted:What I will say though is that Nier just made me like really sad so if you don't want to be really sad don't play it. If your natural state is being really sad then I guess you'll enjoy it regardless of the story. I'm cool with games (and entertainment in general) making me sad, I just have to be in the right mood for it. What convinced me not to play Nier: Automata yet was watching a video of the game in which a player starts cutting up robots while they beg for their lives and I felt sad and I was like "nope, not going to have a good time with this right now, maybe this summer." Because I'm willing to bet that's not even the half of it.
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Mar 29, 2017 14:59
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It's not even a tiny fraction of it, man
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Where am I at with nier emotional devastation if I tear up watching the ending of luigi's mansion 2
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Harrow posted:What convinced me not to play Nier: Automata yet was watching a video of the game in which a player starts cutting up robots while they beg for their lives and I felt sad and I was like "nope, not going to have a good time with this right now, maybe this summer." Because I'm willing to bet that's not even the half of it. Oh man yeah.
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Nier Automata really could've just been subtitled "Yoko Taro Has An Insane Desire To Make You Cry, The Video Game" and nothing would be different. Which imo is a point in its favor. A video game hasn't made me feel such a deep pain in my chest like the true ending of Nier Automata did in a long time.
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Lakbay posted:When I got the bad ending in base TW3, I looked up where I screwed up and I knew what exactly I did wrong and thought it was fair I got it. I got the bad ending in B&W and I got pissed because I only got the bad ending because I didn't read some journal entries The bad ending in the main game was really properly built up too.
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the last time a platinum game tried to make me feel guilt for cutting up robots was metal gear rising revengeance when the sai robot wearing a derby hat activated my emotions chip or something and buddy if you think that slowed me down from cracking open dumbasses for their spine juice for even a second you'd be mistaken
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Metal Gear Rising is so over the top that any attempt to elicit an emotion other than "gently caress yes this is awesome" comes across as parody and that's why it owns. I'm assuming Nier is a bit more... sincere.
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they weren't trying to make you sad they were trying to make you feel like it was Time for Jack, to Let 'er Rip
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People shouldn't really call this a platinum game because outside of the sword animations it is nothing like anything else theyve worked on.
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Cowcaster posted:the last time a platinum game tried to make me feel guilt for cutting up robots was metal gear rising revengeance when the sai robot wearing a derby hat activated my emotions chip or something and buddy if you think that slowed me down from cracking open dumbasses for their spine juice for even a second you'd be mistaken But the robots in NieR are cute, and their little spherical robot heads overheat God Hand style when you taunt them. In Training posted:People shouldn't really call this a platinum game because outside of the sword animations it is nothing like anything else theyve worked on. It has MGR's parry and Transformers/Bayonetta's Witch time. It also has really cool unarmed combat and insane difficulty, should you choose that. You can also dodge offset. void_serfer fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Mar 29, 2017 15:09
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cute is bad
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Cowcaster posted:cute is bad War is peace Freedom is slavery Ignorance is strength
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In Training posted:People shouldn't really call this a platinum game because outside of the sword animations it is nothing like anything else theyve worked on. Yeah, they only did the combat, not the story. Platinum Games stories are about kids smacking action figures together and imagining cool poo poo and having a great time. Yoko Taro is going for something very different.
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Cowcaster posted:the last time a platinum game tried to make me feel guilt for cutting up robots was metal gear rising revengeance when the sai robot wearing a derby hat activated my emotions chip or something and buddy if you think that slowed me down from cracking open dumbasses for their spine juice for even a second you'd be mistaken
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Cowcaster posted:cute is bad  good news, they look like this when you're chopping their faces up Cowcaster I do not appreciate your contrarian attitude toward this incredible video game and I'm very disappointed
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Cowcaster posted:it's a videogame, videogames cannot hurt you http://smod.wikidot.com/weapon:psp
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Cowcaster posted:the last time a platinum game tried to make me feel guilt for cutting up robots was metal gear rising revengeance when the sai robot wearing a derby hat activated my emotions chip or something and buddy if you think that slowed me down from cracking open dumbasses for their spine juice for even a second you'd be mistaken It's not a coincidence that slowing down enough to hear the entire inner pathos of the enemies in that section makes you get a D rank. But if you actually do listen to them, it's legitimately depressing stuff. Metal Gear Rising is really good because it puts the stupid awesome poo poo on top and the depressing political commentary is only there if you dig a little, and even then it's mostly relevant as to how it informs the actions of the characters, not as a direct attempt to make you feel something. The game doesn't stop dead in its tracks to vomit garbage exposition at you or walk you through the "clever" plot twist or have something completely stupid happen while manipulative music plays and Kojima yells "LOOK HOW DEEP I AM".
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Palpek posted:Yeah, the B&W ending can get screwed easily and in order to get the GOOD good ending you have to pick up an option that is the opposite of what you'd like to achieve, it's not cool. Speaking of Witcher 3, my friend who beat the game insists the only way to get the good ending is to do the DLCs before finishing the main game. That claim sounds like bullshit to me, since they both came out well after the base game and I thought B&W could almost be considered an epilogue, anyway. I mean, it's a moot point since I only just got to Novigrad soooooo.
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Lurdiak posted:It's not a coincidence that slowing down enough to hear the entire inner pathos of the enemies in that section makes you get a D rank. But if you actually do listen to them, it's legitimately depressing stuff. Metal Gear Rising is really good because it puts the stupid awesome poo poo on top and the depressing political commentary is only there if you dig a little, and even then it's mostly relevant as to how it informs the actions of the characters, not as a direct attempt to make you feel something. The game doesn't stop dead in its tracks to vomit garbage exposition at you or walk you through the "clever" plot twist or have something completely stupid happen while manipulative music plays and Kojima yells "LOOK HOW DEEP I AM". void_serfer fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Lurdiak posted:The game doesn't stop dead in its tracks to vomit garbage exposition at you or walk you through the "clever" plot twist or have something completely stupid happen while manipulative music plays and Kojima yells "LOOK HOW DEEP I AM". in the very section of the game we're talking about eventually the game locks you out of moving or attacking because raiden is so "emotionally distraught" or something so you have to hobble-stealth your way around some enemies to the boss who vomits garbage exposition at you, so
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Kojima is a lot of things but I don't think his style can ever be accused of too much subtlety.
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Lurdiak posted:It's not a coincidence that slowing down enough to hear the entire inner pathos of the enemies in that section makes you get a D rank. But if you actually do listen to them, it's legitimately depressing stuff. Metal Gear Rising is really good because it puts the stupid awesome poo poo on top and the depressing political commentary is only there if you dig a little, and even then it's mostly relevant as to how it informs the actions of the characters, not as a direct attempt to make you feel something. The game doesn't stop dead in its tracks to vomit garbage exposition at you or walk you through the "clever" plot twist or have something completely stupid happen while manipulative music plays and Kojima yells "LOOK HOW DEEP I AM". Metal Gear Rising is the only good Metal Gear game to come out after 2004 (which is when the last good Metal Gear Solid game came out).
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Harrow posted:Metal Gear Rising is the only good Metal Gear game to come out after 2004 (which is when the last good Metal Gear Solid game came out). Metal Gear Solid 4, Peace Walker and V would like a word
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and don't get me wrong i love the poo poo out of revengeance but to me that whole sequence is a very big and palpable wart on the game as a whole and just based on hearsay it sounds to me like nier is "that sequence: the game"
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In one MGR boss monologue cutscene you can push the analog stick to tilt the camera a little and see that just out of frame is a guard petting a kitty  As for Automata, I'm only halfway through route B but the robot death cult near the end of route A is the highlight so far.
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In Training posted:Metal Gear Solid 4, Peace Walker and V would like a word That word is "bad"
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Cowcaster posted:and don't get me wrong i love the poo poo out of revengeance but to me that whole sequence is a very big and palpable wart on the game as a whole and just based on hearsay it sounds to me like nier is "that sequence: the game"
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haveblue posted:In one MGR boss monologue cutscene you can push the analog stick to tilt the camera a little and see that just out of frame is a guard petting a kitty I love that guy that shields the cat from the rain because it undermines Monsoon's entire point about how soldiers have to be cold and unfeeling and repress their emotions because letting them out and showing weakness makes you weak- and how we are controlled by our emotions whether they're being suppressed or not. While he's goin on about all this bullshit, dude sees a cat and he's like "I will help you my friend".
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i thought mgs:v was loving fantastic, albeit obviously incomplete but also it's the only metal gear game i've ever played (not counting revengeance which isn't really so much a metal gear game)
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Mordja posted:Speaking of Witcher 3, my friend who beat the game insists the only way to get the good ending is to do the DLCs before finishing the main game. That claim sounds like bullshit to me, since they both came out well after the base game and I thought B&W could almost be considered an epilogue, anyway. The DLC stuff has no effect on the main story at all, it's separate content. The ending is only effected by (not really a big spoiler but I'll tag it just in case) about 6-7 timed dialog choices during the second half of the main game, after you find Ciri.
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Mordja posted:Speaking of Witcher 3, my friend who beat the game insists the only way to get the good ending is to do the DLCs before finishing the main game. That claim sounds like bullshit to me, since they both came out well after the base game and I thought B&W could almost be considered an epilogue, anyway.
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MinibarMatchman posted:haha good, at this rate the game is enjoyable enough but the aspect of route 2 so far for me is less about "oh this new combat is fun" and more about "ok when will things pick up and I can stop retreading things". so I've been anxious about when things truly diverge End of Route B and beyond basically.
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In Training posted:People shouldn't really call this a platinum game because outside of the sword animations it is nothing like anything else theyve worked on. I was quite surprised at how much like the original it is. From the demo I was expecting something closer to the platinum formula.
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Harrow posted:Metal Gear Rising is the only good Metal Gear game to come out after 2004 (which is when the last good Metal Gear Solid game came out). whoa now
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In Training posted:Metal Gear Solid 4, Peace Walker and V would like a word I don't really like any of those unfortunately  I really thought MGSV was ruined by its open world, especially. It really didn't need that. It's the game that made me go "maybe open worlds... are bad?????" Which was also wrong, but I just wasn't into it. MGS4 and V both have better controls than any other MGS game though, so I gotta give them credit for making controlling Snake feel really great. I bet if I came into MGSV not expecting a good final MGS story and just hosed around with stealth I'd have an okay time, but I really want more than that from an MGS game.
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