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I think the issue is the leveling system. Once you have 5 levels over an enemy they wont usually one shot you anymore on hard. Doing my second playthrough im starting to think the difficulty thing could have been managed much better if there was no leveling up and challange was purely controlled by the chip system.
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:Yeah, sorry, everything with Emi Evans is good, and his opinion invalid. I like her duo project stuff as well, I wish she made more music I could buy. You might have forgotten about Yasunori Mitsuda. And I love the guy who did FFXI's soundtrack Naoshi Mizuta. I can close my eyes and immediately think back to my wasted youth grinding crabs and nodding to some good tunes. We probably need a badass games OST thread.
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Mar 30, 2017 04:54
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The Dark Id posted:Hi. Hello. If you'd like about a hundred articles on why this is a good rear end game welp: Hahaha, howdy! Just want you to know that I'd read a bit of your Nier LP before digging far into Automata, but when I was running through (route C spoilers): the Tower, and slammed into the un-textured version of The Library, I had to save the game, exit, and finish reading your LP because I knew poo poo was about to pop off. So thanks!
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Mar 30, 2017 04:57
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Oh my god (TOTAL ENDGAME SPOILERS) they're pulling the save data deletion poo poo.  I still have stuff to get. I promise that I'll come back for the other players!!!Without spoiling too much, what needs to be done to get joke endings? Are they all hidden in the game accessible whenever, or are there hints ingame to where they are? Supremezero posted:The irony of this is that you'll have to go through the credits again to volunteer your data.  So it's a losing battle! loving perfect.
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Mar 30, 2017 05:00
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Pollyanna posted:Oh my god (TOTAL ENDGAME SPOILERS) they're pulling the save data deletion poo poo. The irony of this is that you'll have to go through the credits again to volunteer your data. Which means you'll sacrifice more data so you can volunteer yours. Thankfully, it doesn't seem like data's actually sacrificed, but it's still kind of hilarious.
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Mar 30, 2017 05:01
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The Dark Id posted:Hi. Hello. If you'd like about a hundred articles on why this is a good rear end game welp: Thank you, I was just wondering how long until you did this. I'd just like to say thanks, it was your LPs that got me into Drakengard and Nier. I went out and bought Nier after your first update for that one.
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Mar 30, 2017 05:17
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Looked into the joke endings, it seems like they really are just one-off jokes. I guess my question is, now that I've gotten ending E, what meat is left? Is there still story stuff to be found?
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Mar 30, 2017 05:18
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Iretep posted:I think the issue is the leveling system. Once you have 5 levels over an enemy they wont usually one shot you anymore on hard. Doing my second playthrough im starting to think the difficulty thing could have been managed much better if there was no leveling up and challange was purely controlled by the chip system. Mostly I'm pissed because I finally got Emil's high-end material shop to spawn, stocked up, then got two-shotted on my way to Masamune.
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Pollyanna posted:Looked into the joke endings, it seems like they really are just one-off jokes. I guess my question is, now that I've gotten ending E, what meat is left? Is there still story stuff to be found? The stuff revolving around Ending Y is pretty great.
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Mar 30, 2017 05:22
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Pollyanna posted:Looked into the joke endings, it seems like they really are just one-off jokes. I guess my question is, now that I've gotten ending E, what meat is left? Is there still story stuff to be found? The second superboss is the only narrative thing left, assuming you completed all sidequests.
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Mar 30, 2017 05:28
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Oxxidation posted:I'm going to maintain that the difficulty settings are completely out of whack. I steamroll everything on Normal but when I try to turn it up to Hard I get two-shotted by everything even with a decent chip loadout and it's a miserable experience. The jump in enemy damage output is just way too high. Same experience, but when I switched to hard I really ended up exploring a lot more combat options than I had taken into consideration in the past since you can't just play the same way you do on Normal. What weapons are you using?
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Mar 30, 2017 05:38
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Oxxidation posted:I'm going to maintain that the difficulty settings are completely out of whack. I steamroll everything on Normal but when I try to turn it up to Hard I get two-shotted by everything even with a decent chip loadout and it's a miserable experience. The jump in enemy damage output is just way too high. The way I see it, Easy is if you don't want to bother with the combat, Normal is for those who haven't played a Platinum game before, and Hard is for people who really like Platinum games and practiced them a lot. Very Hard is for people who are either stupid or very cool, depending on whether or not they actually enjoy it
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Mar 30, 2017 07:07
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2 questions: How do you complete half-wit inventor quest? Will I get a chance to beat the remaining side quests after route B or do I need to beat gen before the last part of B?
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Mr President posted:2 questions: Question one: Just give the dude a lot of cash, and question two: you can't permanently miss sidequests.
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Mar 30, 2017 07:42
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Trick Question posted:Question one: Just give the dude a lot of cash, and question two: you can't permanently miss sidequests. related, but some sidequests reset their progress when moving between routes. I'm not sure if inventor is one of them but I don't think it would be? Another quest that involves giving money does reset though wandering couple
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:Yeah, sorry, everything with Emi Evans is good, and his opinion invalid. I like her duo project stuff as well, I wish she made more music I could buy. RE: Bolded Anything GUST really. I've not heard everything they've done in history, naturally, but I've never stumbled onto something of theirs that is less than stellar. And yeah, Emi Evans' "Freesscape" band are good and I'd recommend go getting their stuff if you need more Emi Evans in your life (you probably do) Nuebot posted:Thank you, I was just wondering how long until you did this. I'd just like to say thanks, it was your LPs that got me into Drakengard and Nier. I went out and bought Nier after your first update for that one. Only tangentially related to this thread, but my "I bought this game because TDI LP'ed it" game is Dirge of Cerberus... Why the gently caress did I do that? I've never played it but everything in that LP showed that the game is utter poo poo with no redeeming features. 
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Mar 30, 2017 09:11
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Mr President posted:2 questions: Give him the full amount of cash he asks for each time. It comes to 180g I think. If you sell a few machine cores you can afford it easily. You'll be able to do all sidequests again, but not until you complete Route C.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Only tangentially related to this thread, but my "I bought this game because TDI LP'ed it" game is Dirge of Cerberus... Why the gently caress did I do that? I've never played it but everything in that LP showed that the game is utter poo poo with no redeeming features. Haha, you fool! I've played almost every Resident Evil game (though most of them before I knew LPs even existed), and then the drakengards. I also have a copy of chrono cross a friend lent me then never wanted back.
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Chrono Cross is pretty good if you ignore all of the Chrono Trigger links and treat the music like nice remixes at least.
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I got bored like halfway through because I wasn't especially invested in the badcatdad. He was the main character's dad right? That wasn't just a fever dream?
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I did something dumb with my saves such that I needed to start over from scratch (I thought the post-ending E thing only deleted your current save slot, not all of them). I really wanted to have the cool combat skills available from the start, so I spent a few hours with the savegames and a hex editor and have gotten a simple chip inventory editor working: Still working on it, but I have had the game accept edited chips. You can make unbalanced small slot count chips with it.
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Angela Merkle Tree posted:I did something dumb with my saves such that I needed to start over from scratch (I thought the post-ending E thing only deleted your current save slot, not all of them). I really wanted to have the cool combat skills available from the start, so I spent a few hours with the savegames and a hex editor and have gotten a simple chip inventory editor working: Hahahaha thinking Yoko Taro would be nice and doing what you think.
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ghostinmyshell posted:We probably need a badass games OST thread. There's a boss theme thread out there but I second this as a more general notion anyway. Now that I've listened to the official soundtrack that has versions of the songs that aren't just a single type (quiet, medium, dynamic, etc) and actually vary between them all I think I can say this just edges out the original Nier's soundtrack. Shadowlord, Grandma, and Cold Steel Coffin will always hold very special places in my heart, but there's something about the variation in Automata that really gets to me. Emi Evans is fantastic, and J'nique Nicole is a great addition that pairs and contrasts with her amazingly. I think that may be what makes A Beautiful Song one of my absolute favorite tracks ever. Also Dark Colossus is loving incredible on the soundtrack, holy poo poo, I can't believe how much of an improvement it is on the original when all the pieces are meshed together so well.
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Impressions of the game now that I've finished it: This game had quite a different countenance/personality than the first. It's very introspective and philosophical, while the first game had a lot more horror and despair to it. I remember going what the gently caress a lot more while watching TDI's LP of the first game than I did while playing this game, and I kinda miss that. The premise, backstory, mystery and revelations of the first game were much more intriguing and hooked me better than this game did, though that might be because this game tied itself heavily to the previous one, so the whole "humanity was dead the whole time" twist was lost on me. I also got a little more attached to the first game's characters (e.g. Kaine, Emil). Not to say that Automata's characters are bad, but it feels like 9S gets the grand majority of the development while 2B and A2 aren't as well-explored (2B moreso), which is a bit of a shame. The backstory and supplemental material for Kaine et al. was really important for getting me to like them and care about them, and I haven't encountered that for the androids. Actually, now that I think about it - I think there's two real main characters in the game: 9S, who discovers the truth and goes bugfuck as a result, and the machines, who change and develop the most over the course of the game (both in its history and in the main story). Which is an interesting approach, but...I wanna hear more about 2B and A2  I prefer the original game's music. This one's music seems to be very calm and thematic, which is good and all, but I never really ran into anything quite like "Blu-bird", "Hills of Radiant Winds", or "Kaine". I might just be picky, though. It did get me to start re-playing the first game's OST which is loving stunning so hey, not all bad. This might all change with the DLC or any extended material coming out, but the original still wins out for me. Automata's a better game, but it's missing something the original had that I can't quite identify. Squidtentacle posted:There's a boss theme thread out there but I second this as a more general notion anyway. I haven't sat down and listened to the Automata OST yet, but I appreciated how well it worked in-game. Maybe I haven't given it a fair shake yet...
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Super scum advice: It's obviously entirely trivial to alt tab out of the game and copy/archive/make read-only your savegame files during the 6x confirmation and then revert later if you're super curious (the ending won't be marked on the restored savegames, obviously). I don't know if actively breaking the meta narrative of "breaking the narrative" is against or totally within the spirit of ending E but i'm sure yoko taro will haunt me and sternly and disappointedly glare at me until i rectify the situation.
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Pollyanna posted:I haven't sat down and listened to the Automata OST yet, but I appreciated how well it worked in-game. Maybe I haven't given it a fair shake yet... If you're looking for something with the same impact as Blu-Bird or Hills of Radiant Wind, you really should just sit down and listen to Grandma - Destruction (youtube.com/watch?v= VncjpofSgyE), A Beautiful Song (youtube.com/watch?v= Z2gc0W485E8), Birth of a Wish (youtube.com/watch?v= I9roPlcHBDY), and Dark Colossus (youtube.com/watch?v= ECRsfnklnD4). I thought Dark Colossus was a little lackluster ingame, but the soundtrack version does some serious work with it. Other really solid ones are War & War (youtube.com/watch?v= lgFLQBLqW68) and Possessed by a Disease (youtube.com/watch?v= PcxC70ow4ik), which aren't super intense immediately but boy do they get to me.
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Angela Merkle Tree posted:I did something dumb with my saves such that I needed to start over from scratch (I thought the post-ending E thing only deleted your current save slot, not all of them). I accidentally read this spoiler cause i was absentminded and i was wondering if it's possible to explain what it's about without giving any story away? I mean i don't want to start over from scratch too like the OP.
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Mar 30, 2017 14:49
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Don't worry about it, its is a separate option with 7 confirmation boxes and makes sense once you get there
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Mar 30, 2017 14:49
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Dongattack posted:I accidentally read this spoiler cause i was absentminded and i was wondering if it's possible to explain what it's about without giving any story away? I mean i don't want to start over from scratch too like the OP. You'll know it when you see it, and it'll make sense then. Don't worry until you get there.
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So did we ever talk about how Project Gestalt probably inspired the machines' ark project which allows them to exist separated from their bodies as pure consciousness data
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RoadCrewWorker posted:Super scum advice: It's obviously entirely trivial to alt tab out of the game and copy/archive/make read-only your savegame files during the 6x confirmation and then revert later if you're super curious (the ending won't be marked on the restored savegames, obviously). I don't know if actively breaking the meta narrative of "breaking the narrative" is against or totally within the spirit of ending E but i'm sure yoko taro will haunt me and sternly and disappointedly glare at me until i rectify the situation. I'd say it's perfectly in line with robot religion of Humans to find ways to un-gently caress the universe. We have Become as Gods to them
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Holy crap I only now saw that there's a cutscene at Kainé's hut in the third act if you unlock it beforehand. I had zero idea it was a thing
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Nina posted:Holy crap I only now saw that there's a cutscene at Kainé's hut in the third act if you unlock it beforehand. I had zero idea it was a thing I now have another reason to replay the game, apart from having completely failed to figure out how to drift boars
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Nina posted:Holy crap I only now saw that there's a cutscene at Kainé's hut in the third act if you unlock it beforehand. I had zero idea it was a thing Eh? What happens there? vv Oh. That's the end of that questline. Pretty sure you're directed there. It's a good scene that is super weird to only be a missable sidequest. The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Mar 30, 2017 |
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Nina posted:Holy crap I only now saw that there's a cutscene at Kainé's hut in the third act if you unlock it beforehand. I had zero idea it was a thing That's pretty much my reaction to activating it. The Dark Id posted:Eh? What happens there? Route C If you do the dog tag quest and 9S learns about flowers for the fallen you can go to Kaine's house and he plants her sword there and says he'll avenge her, then join her soon enough.
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Nina posted:Holy crap I only now saw that there's a cutscene at Kainé's hut in the third act if you unlock it beforehand. I had zero idea it was a thing Is that the one where 9S puts her blindfold and a sword into the ground for her tombstone?
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The Dark Id posted:Eh? What happens there? Probably referring to after you do the sidequest with the two tanks in the desert. If you go to Kainé's hut after finishing that quest, there's a nice little scene there
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Oh, that's interesting. I had to go there to finish the quest but I didn't think about what would have happened if it wasn't unlocked.
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