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Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Cora's mostly a decent character, but her backstory has some glaring basic ME lore plotholes ("Oh woe, the Alliance Military was scared of me being a strong Biotic and sent me as far away as possible" doesn't work when the Alliance Military are one of the few Earth groups that bend over backwards to get Biotics into their ranks.) and she overstates the "I was an Asari Huntress, you know" thing way too often. You can quote literature without stating how you came to learn it with every single quote to strangers.

that's cause cora is literally an asari weeaboo who went to thessia for a couple of years and therefore thinks she's practically asari now

if she had an apartment on the nexus it would be covered in wallscrolls with random asari writing on them

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Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Kylra posted:

The prequels were written by George Lucas, the guy who kind of kicked off the Star Wars thing. The main difference between the Star Wars OT and the prequels was that he had far more and broader absolute control over the prequels. Lets not get too hasty in our comparisons here.

ME:A feels more like the first new Disney Star Wars, Episode 7. They had to try to make it very classically Star Wars-y to make sure people knew they could make a Star Wars movie, so they repeated a bunch of the same story beats. But, they also needed a new cast and to set up for the new direction they wanted to go in.

Except ME:A isn't nearly as polished as the new Star Wars. And I'm not feeling as optimistic about ME:A2. Even though I am currently enjoying ME:A and going through all the nifty side dialogue, it's not as enjoyable as I feel like I should be enjoying it, unlike SW:E7 and especially Rogue One.

Andromeda in general feels like someone ran through the cliffs notes of Mass Effect before throwing their first draft of a script together. The real problem is it doesn't feel like Mass Effect in the Andromeda Galaxy, it's just Mass Effect done poorly compared to the original. You get all of one new alien race to interact and socialize with, and your main hub is a Citadel knockoff full of Milky Way races you've met before. The seedy underbelly colony is just Omega Mk.2 with a psychotic bitch-queen in charge who will keep her word if given. Only this time, she's human.

The Remnant Monoliths aren't even all that interesting, because after the first set on Eos they just become a extra checkbox to fill out on the road to fixing each planet's biosphere with some Sudoko mixed in for the sake of puzzles. They really needed to stick some lore in them, go scanning ancient datapads for bit entries on whatever mysterious things the Remnant were doing before they vanished or something.

In general the side-content and loyalty missions are pretty good though, and New Tuchanka is a magical experience when you start reading the local Terminals :allears:. The mental image of Krogran LARP'ers is a beautiful thing.



Zikan posted:

that's cause cora is literally an asari weeaboo who went to thessia for a couple of years and therefore thinks she's practically asari now

if she had an apartment on the nexus it would be covered in wallscrolls with random asari writing on them


Honestly I really think they should've stuck some kind of Asari wallscroll or artwork in the hydroponics lab where she's hanging out. Or even just in the sleeping quarters somewhere.

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed

Iron Crowned posted:

You can see it if you just look down at the ice when you get that quest SMDH

I drove out onto the ice near there and then some random voice radioed me asking for help finding a wraith with the scanner, and I couldn't find it so I just left

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Zikan posted:

that's cause cora is literally an asari weeaboo who went to thessia for a couple of years and therefore thinks she's practically asari now

if she had an apartment on the nexus it would be covered in wallscrolls with random asari writing on them
Why do you think you were gathering up all of Matriarch Dilinaga's writings in ME1? So they could be scanlated, of course.

Nancy
Nov 23, 2005



Young Orc

Neddy Seagoon posted:

You get all of one new alien race to interact and socialize with, and your main hub is a Citadel knockoff full of Milky Way races you've met before.

If you had more than the Angara and Kett to deal with people would be complaining about how it doesn't make sense to have all these new alien races when Andromeda doesn't have an ME relay system to facilitate a cohesive galactic society

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009
Regarding environmental hazards, I'm reminded of Tali's recruitment mission in Mass Effect 2. You're in direct sunlight? You don't have shields.

I wish Andromeda's environmental hazards were more thought out than every single one just being a timer until you take damage over time and then die. Maybe you can survive in the cold but your aim goes to poo poo on Voeld due to the cold and shivering. Maybe your vision gets blurry after too long in the acidic atmosphere of Kadara. Would certainly serve to differentiate the planets more in a gameplay sense as well as visually.

homullus
Mar 27, 2009

Fojar38 posted:

Only gamebreaking bug I've encountered so far is a pretty specific one. I was fighting the Voeld architect and paused and used a shield boost at pretty much the exact moment my HP reached zero, so it recharged my shield but I had zero HP and I was zombieing around for as long as the overcharge lasted. I couldn't die but nobody elses HP was falling either. Trying to reload my most recent save led to a softlock so I had to go back to one before it.

I might have accidentally discovered a frame perfect speedrun glitch

I had something similar (also the Voeld Architect), except I died at the same time it did, and leveled up when it died, so I think it gave me my health back, but I was in one of those electrical fields that it does, so I was slowly dying again as a corpse that couldn't get up.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

Even Zelda lets you carry fire/ice swords to generate cold/heat around you to help protect against the environment.

Magil Zeal
Nov 24, 2008

Zikan posted:

that's cause cora is literally an asari weeaboo who went to thessia for a couple of years and therefore thinks she's practically asari now

if she had an apartment on the nexus it would be covered in wallscrolls with random asari writing on them

There's a nice bit of dialogue I got between Peebee and Cora when driving around in the Nomad where Peebee pretty much calls Cora out on this rather explicitly.

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

Halloween Jack posted:

Why do you think you were gathering up all of Matriarch Dilinaga's writings in ME1? So they could be scanlated, of course.

Cora: "These materials have not been accepted by the asari commandos and therefore ARE NOT CANON and I don't care how many people post about this "Commander Shepard," he does not have the experience on living on Thessia among actual asari as I have done and probably doesn't know basic history like the Athame Doctrine and furthermore..."

Zikan fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Mar 30, 2017

im cute
Sep 21, 2009

Random rear end in a top hat posted:

The Sweeper is pretty great, it takes about 3 bursts or so (with the AR skill tree) and isn't limited by ammo OR a long recharge time like other Heatsink guns. In terms of pistols the Hurricane does pretty obscene damage, roughly on par with the Piranha, those two are the best full-auto weapons in the game no question.

Edit: Crafting is really loving broke for some people, if the guns you're crafting seem underwhelming then don't use any bullet-type modifiers (especially beam weapons, which just sucks), those sometimes gently caress the damage of a weapon for no apparent reason.

I had a Mattock V with the Beam augment and I swear it took like 5 shots to the head to bring down a regular-rear end Chosen.

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Cora's mostly a decent character, but her backstory has some glaring basic ME lore plotholes ("Oh woe, the Alliance Military was scared of me being a strong Biotic and sent me as far away as possible" doesn't work when the Alliance Military are one of the few Earth groups that bend over backwards to get Biotics into their ranks.) and she overstates the "I was an Asari Huntress, you know" thing way too often. You can quote literature without stating how you came to learn it with every single quote to strangers.

That's not how I understood her backstory. The way she described it to me was: I was a biotic on a freighter, born to a family no money for tutors. An untrained biotic on a freighter is really dangerous so people there didn't like me. The Alliance had training and implants and gave me a home and then I transferred to the Asarimas part of a cross-species military exchange program. (And then I became a total Asari fangirl who is so desperate to feel cool and special that I will quote Asari philosophy to Asari in the middle of combat.)

That seems pretty in line with the ME lore?

im cute
Sep 21, 2009

Baron Corbyn posted:

Is it possible to find your sibling/the cryo bay on Meridian in the post game?


whoever is correct there. Who is used in place of subject pronouns, whom in place of object pronouns. 'Whoever' in "whoever decided that instant kills was an acceptable mechanic in a single-player game needs to be cockslapped" is the subject of the sentence.

Who > He
Whom > Him

Also lol that Addison fucks it all up later with a typical lesser/fewer goof. I wonder if it's possible to exile her and Tann while putting Kesh and Kanderos in charge.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Charles Get-Out posted:

If you had more than the Angara and Kett to deal with people would be complaining about how it doesn't make sense to have all these new alien races when Andromeda doesn't have an ME relay system to facilitate a cohesive galactic society

True, but it'd still be more interesting. The original Mass Effect throws a millenia-old society of several races all living together at you who are still a bit wary of the hairy pink things turning up in their territories even after 30-odd years since they first appeared.

Andromeda gives you a single race of vagina-headed aliens who have already met humans through the Exiles, and shoots what should've been a MAJOR first-contact event in the story stone dead as a result.


doingitwrong posted:

That's not how I understood her backstory. The way she described it to me was: I was a biotic on a freighter, born to a family no money for tutors. An untrained biotic on a freighter is really dangerous so people there didn't like me. The Alliance had training and implants and gave me a home and then I transferred to the Asarimas part of a cross-species military exchange program. (And then I became a total Asari fangirl who is so desperate to feel cool and special that I will quote Asari philosophy to Asari in the middle of combat.)

That seems pretty in line with the ME lore?

No, the Alliance Military turfed her out to an Interspecies military exchange program by force because they didn't want that damnable Biotic was the wording I got from it.

Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Mar 30, 2017

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Pattonesque posted:

that can shoot fire or snap-freeze or electrocute people.

So what you're telling me is that Samsung makes all the omni-tools :v:

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy
Do y'all think they'll modify the environmental hazards to actually be hazardous?

im cute
Sep 21, 2009

AngryBooch posted:

Regarding environmental hazards, I'm reminded of Tali's recruitment mission in Mass Effect 2. You're in direct sunlight? You don't have shields.

I wish Andromeda's environmental hazards were more thought out than every single one just being a timer until you take damage over time and then die. Maybe you can survive in the cold but your aim goes to poo poo on Voeld due to the cold and shivering. Maybe your vision gets blurry after too long in the acidic atmosphere of Kadara. Would certainly serve to differentiate the planets more in a gameplay sense as well as visually.

If you hang out in the wrong parts of Eos you grow 3-6 extra huge tits and it messes with your movement speed.

Nancy
Nov 23, 2005



Young Orc

Neddy Seagoon posted:

True, but it'd still be more interesting. The original Mass Effect throws a millenia-old society of several races all living together at you who are still a bit wary of the hairy pink things turning up in their territories even after 30-odd years since they first appeared.

Andromeda gives you a single race of vagina-headed aliens who have already met humans through the Exiles, and shoots what should've been a MAJOR first-contact event in the story stone dead as a result.

That's pretty fair and they definitely could've spun a game out of first contact problems with the Angara. In my opinion it would have been more satisfying to have one alien presence that is the focal point and source of political problems than 2.5 alien presences that aren't so much.

Nancy fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Mar 30, 2017

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Chill Nazi Frog posted:

Who > He
Whom > Him

that's literally what I said, mate. He is a subject pronoun, him is an object pronoun. You'd say "he needs to be cockslapped", not "him needs to be cockslapped."

im cute
Sep 21, 2009

Baron Corbyn posted:

that's literally what I said, mate. He is a subject pronoun, him is an object pronoun. You'd say "he needs to be cockslapped", not "him needs to be cockslapped."

No, I know. It's just a convenient way of remembering it because two short ones, and two 'm' ones.

Sorry. My face is just tired from dealing with grammar all day.

Turbl
Nov 8, 2007


canepazzo posted:

How are you guys editing the settings file for the ultra+ textures? Mine gets overwritten by the game once I start it; do you set it as read-only?

You should just be able to open up ProfOpts_profile in WordPad or Notepad++ or whatever and just change the values then save the file. If it worked the graphics settings in game will just be blank for the ones you edited.

I played through the main missions on my old outdated computer where I had to run most things on medium or low and now that I'm playing on a new computer where I can crank everything up and get 70+ FPS all the time holy moly do I enjoy this game even more. It looks and feels so much better and I didn't even dislike it before.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

TheCenturion posted:



Drack is awesome; they somehow managed to write a grumpy old man Krogan, but what constitutes 'grumpy' makes sense for Krogan society.



great post and this is the only point i disagree with, because he never struck me as that grumpy. but he is pretty happy and care free compared to wrex and even grunt(trying to find himself and all that.)

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Last night I got the part where Drack yells "WE JUST WANT TO TALK!" when combat starts and it is really great, Drack is great.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Zikan posted:

that's cause cora is literally an asari weeaboo who went to thessia for a couple of years and therefore thinks she's practically asari now

if she had an apartment on the nexus it would be covered in wallscrolls with random asari writing on them

what is great about this is that there are apparently a whole lot of asari humaboos who are obsessed with ancient earth stuff

Decius
Oct 14, 2005

Ramrod XTreme

Dapper_Swindler posted:

great post and this is the only point i disagree with, because he never struck me as that grumpy. but he is pretty happy and care free compared to wrex and even grunt(trying to find himself and all that.)

Yeah, Drack is great, because he is so different from the Krogan we have seen until now. Loved the stuff that he talks about after his companion mission. Generally the Krogan are probably the most fleshed out thing in this game, even more than the Angara and their culture and setting has greatly broadened compared to ME 1. That's why I want to put the genophage poo poo behind us - we had the topic and all the moral implications and poinderings over three games and 10 years, time to move on and look for new high concept stuff to explore.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
The thing I like most about Drack is actually the fact that he's old and isn't obsessed with taking the most violent and unhinged approach to every single problem. Wrex and Grunt both had a problem where if you stopped them from being violent a-holes they would often resent you for it, whereas Drack is like "Yeah whatever, I don't have anything to prove like the young punks do."

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010

Wasn't the Genophage kind of sidestepped with that %4 increase in child viability or whatever?

Decius
Oct 14, 2005

Ramrod XTreme

SgtSteel91 posted:

Wasn't the Genophage kind of sidestepped with that %4 increase in child viability or whatever?

4000 % increase. Which might or might not be a bit of a problem however they treat it.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Decius posted:

4000 % increase. Which might or might not be a bit of a problem however they treat it.

Yeah now they can 40 children in a lifetime instead of .4!

Yay!

FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME

Neddy Seagoon posted:

and she overstates the "I was an Asari Huntress, you know" thing way too often. You can quote literature without stating how you came to learn it with every single quote to strangers.

"An asari huntress is a silent predator." -- Carlson & Peters, page 824.

im cute
Sep 21, 2009

Decius posted:

4000 % increase. Which might or might not be a bit of a problem however they treat it.

This doesn't make any sense. We've gone from 1 out of every 1000 pregnancies to quadruplets every time.

Krogans and their quads, man.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Chill Nazi Frog posted:

This doesn't make any sense. We've gone from 1 out of every 1000 pregnancies to quadruplets every time.

Krogans and their quads, man.

I mean this poo poo never made any sense. At first I thought the krogan had, like, eggs or whatever since they called them clutches, and they laid 1000 eggs in a clutch, so this would mean that they still could have one kid per year/reproductive cycle.

Andromeda is gonna get overrun with armor frogs pretty quick with that increase in viability.

Number Ten Cocks
Feb 25, 2016

by zen death robot

Chill Nazi Frog posted:

This doesn't make any sense. We've gone from 1 out of every 1000 pregnancies to quadruplets every time.

Krogans and their quads, man.

They've never said how Krogan's managed to have thousands of children back in the day. I imagine a pregnancy resulting in dumping a few hundred tiny lizard things that probably traditionally engaged in post-birth cannibalism or something.

oh dope
Nov 2, 2006

No guilt, it feeds in plain sight

Chill Nazi Frog posted:

I had a Mattock V with the Beam augment and I swear it took like 5 shots to the head to bring down a regular-rear end Chosen.

The Mattock was my favorite gun for mid range combat in ME2. I was so happy to see it in Andromeda, but holy poo poo is it worthless.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
I'm going to rescue him and then I'm going to kill him


Hahahaha i love drack

TheCenturion
May 3, 2013
HI I LIKE TO GIVE ADVICE ON RELATIONSHIPS

Dapper_Swindler posted:

great post and this is the only point i disagree with, because he never struck me as that grumpy. but he is pretty happy and care free compared to wrex and even grunt(trying to find himself and all that.)

Like I said, grumpy, but for a Krogan.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Avalerion posted:

I feel like the whole genophage thing got retconed at some point between me 1 and 2, they changed it from being portrayed as causing low fertility to instead causing millions of stillbirths. The later made it unecesarily cruel and monstrous - and ironically the me: a solution does not really do anything about this aspect I feel.

The 1% birth rate was never really the problem because that just brought krogan in line with most other species - it was the demoralizing aspect of it (and their unwillingness to adapt) that was killing them at first.

The ideal solution would have been curing it then mandatory sex ed and teaching the krogan about birth control.

Don't Krogans lay eggs, like chickens? It's not like a hundred dead babies were slithering out of a krogan lady's lizard cooch every few days. They'd lay eggs, and non of those eggs would be fertilized, or would have been genetically blocked from being fertilized.


Honestly, Krogans should be making omelets like nobody's business - Just a galaxy wide chain of McDonaldKrogan's.

The Krogan being uplifted and all the poo poo that happened as a result was one of the more interesting parts of the ME universe.

Decius
Oct 14, 2005

Ramrod XTreme

Drifter posted:

Don't Krogans lay eggs, like chickens? It's not like a hundred dead babies were slithering out of a krogan lady's lizard cooch every few days. They'd lay eggs, and non of those eggs would be fertilized, or would have been genetically blocked from being fertilized.


Honestly, Krogans should be making omelets like nobody's business - Just a galaxy wide chain of McDonaldKrogan's.

They lay eggs and the eggs would be fertilized, but the babies in 999 out of 1000 eggs would be stillborn. That's why the Genophage is so hard on the Krogan. Now 960 out of the 1000 eggs would contain stillborn babies.

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed

Neddy Seagoon posted:

No, the Alliance Military turfed her out to an Interspecies military exchange program by force because they didn't want that damnable Biotic was the wording I got from it.

I think what she meant is that the people she was serving with became scared of her powers so the Alliance moved her to an asari unit that wouldn't care. The first Mass Effect game had a bunch of side quests that focused on human biotics who became outcasts because regular folk are scared of their power and don't understand it but that's something that the later games didn't really have at all.

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Reclaimer
Sep 3, 2011

Pierced through the heart
but never killed



Halloween Jack posted:

Yeah, regardless of whether you like them are not, the prequels take the piss out of the original trilogy's idealism because they were written and directed by Lucas.

Well drat, now I don't know if Annihilation is good or not. I suppose Singularity must be better if you want to set off combos with Charge, but then, I really never relied on combos in ME3 as a Vanguard, just Charge > Shotgun to Face. I didn't even use Nova much on the first SP playthrough. I enjoy Charge to Melee a lot more in this game, and can even get through encounters entirely with that, no gun at all.

Also, Singularity just reminds me of how much I miss Warp and Dark Channel being a thing.

To clarify, it debuffs enemies so they take more damage.

TheCenturion posted:

The bad guy coming up on the vidscreen, with ominous music, then being completely cut off mid-crescendo when Ryder or Liam hits the 'hang up' button to continue their conversation, repeatedly, was funny.

"I shot the console. Do you... do you think he'll be mad!?"

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