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mobby_6kl posted:Somebody (russian saboteur??) was recording from a drone at the same time: Is there more than this gif? When that gif starts there's already several fires around the place, indicating that it's not the first explosion. Anyone with a drone living nearby could have got out after the first bangs to record it, it'd only be suspicious if the recording started before there was even any smoke.
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Seems like Russian PM Medvedev had a bit of a Marie Antoinette moment --- while there were protests in 80+ cities of his corruption (with at least 1300 people detained) he..: https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/846143407831617537 ... was apparently having fun skiing.
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Well, these events really strengthened his position; In fact, yesterday's protests probably ensured his continued premiership, the future of which was looking uncertain lately.
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OddObserver posted:Seems like Russian PM Medvedev had a bit of a Marie Antoinette moment --- while there were protests in 80+ cities of his corruption Could this possibly be with reference to Kushner?
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A few more of these here: http://theins.ru/news/49987
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Have the protests in Belarus continued or fallen off? What's the best English-language source for news out of the country? Googling 'belarus english news' gave me several obvious state propaganda mouthpieces and some sketchy-looking URLs that I refrained from clicking on.
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Cugel the Clever posted:Have the protests in Belarus continued or fallen off? What's the best English-language source for news out of the country? Googling 'belarus english news' gave me several obvious state propaganda mouthpieces and some sketchy-looking URLs that I refrained from clicking on.
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Statkevich was released from prison. He says keep up the fight. The protests have been mostly on the weekends. Will have to wait and see if there are more. March 25th was the 100th anniversary of Belarus declaring independence from the Russian Empire and creating the BNR. Hundreds of people were rounded up before the protests even happened. They're still in prison.
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Cugel the Clever posted:Have the protests in Belarus continued or fallen off? What's the best English-language source for news out of the country? Googling 'belarus english news' gave me several obvious state propaganda mouthpieces and some sketchy-looking URLs that I refrained from clicking on. Try Euroradio http://euroradio.by/en.
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spacetoaster posted:I'd be interested to find out if that was an actual "assassin" and not just some criminal that got pressured into doing it.
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Isn't that the guy who was skimming off the top in Sochi and was under FBI investigation for laundering in NYC ? While its a page back, the scary thing about Denis Voronenkov was how brazen the hit was. It's only 3 blocks from GRU HQ and the Continental Hotel in Kyiv is a major draw with the US Business lunch crowd. It really throws the controls since 2015 into review. If they knew how to get to Voronekov the message is they can pretty much get to anyone, as literally everyone goes to Continental for sex/vodka/business dealings. Hal_2005 fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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My Ukrainian family is really upset at all the protests in russia because it shows soros and nato are attacking russia directly rather than just poor Ukraine. Why would those protestors accept bribes after what happened to Ukraine?? It's disgusting that "they" even paid children to go protest. This is just going to force russia to crack down. Why won't the west just stop provoking russia??? Maybe if the west stopped funding opposition groups and trying to stage coups in Russia it wouldn't need to be a dictatorship.
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Baronjutter posted:My Ukrainian family is really upset at all the protests in russia because it shows soros and nato are attacking russia directly rather than just poor Ukraine. Why would those protestors accept bribes after what happened to Ukraine?? It's disgusting that "they" even paid children to go protest. This is just going to force russia to crack down. Why won't the west just stop provoking russia??? Maybe if the west stopped funding opposition groups and trying to stage coups in Russia it wouldn't need to be a dictatorship.
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Not much difference to discussing Trump with Republican family members. 'Tis a universal human defect.
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Yeah my wife's just given up trying to talk to her family about politics. She used to be able to talk about stuff like that with at least her parents, who were very anti-putin and one of the reasons they moved from russia to ukraine was to get away from all that. But after everything getting worse in Ukraine after the nato coup and all russian language news being kremlin propaganda they now want to move back to russia and although they still hate putin they think he's just doing what's needed to defend russia from being surrounded and under siege by the west from all angles. At least putin is trying to defend slavs right to exist. Anti-putin is just code for slav genocide and support for nazi's don't you know. Also anything my wife says or believes just evokes them laughing and talking to her like a child. She's living in the west so surrounded by western propaganda, she's just so naive to think anyone would protest without being paid. Every world event no matter how small is all part of 8th dimensional chess by the ((globalists)) to advance their agenda. The west is fully under their control and everything in western media is a lie and propaganda. Russian media of course is also propaganda, they're wise enough to know that. So both sides just lie, the truth must be in the middle. Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Baronjutter posted:Yeah my wife's just given up trying to talk to her family about politics. She used to be able to talk about stuff like that with at least her parents, who were very anti-putin and one of the reasons they moved from russia to ukraine was to get away from all that. But after everything getting worse in Ukraine after the nato coup and all russian language news being kremlin propaganda they now want to move back to russia and although they still hate putin they think he's just doing what's needed to defend russia from being surrounded and under siege by the west from all angles. At least putin is trying to defend slavs right to exist. Anti-putin is just code for slav genocide and support for nazi's don't you know.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Being able to still have other conversations is not the worst outcome, I guess. That might be all they can have in the future. I'm never setting foot in Russia under any circumstances, and my wife who is still technically a russian citizen is terrified of it or having to travel with her russian passport and having to hide or leave behind her Canadian one. She still has nightmares about having to some how go to russia, or being tricked into being on russian soil and never being allowed to go home due to some weird immigration reason, or being arrested or detained for days. She'd made it clear if they move to Russia, we're not visiting. They don't understand this at all. We would visit them in Ukraine, why not Russia? Russia is so much more safe than Ukraine! No nazi's, no coups. How could we possibly feel uncomfortable going there???
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Baronjutter posted:That might be all they can have in the future. I'm never setting foot in Russia under any circumstances, and my wife who is still technically a russian citizen is terrified of it or having to travel with her russian passport and having to hide or leave behind her Canadian one. She still has nightmares about having to some how go to russia, or being tricked into being on russian soil and never being allowed to go home due to some weird immigration reason, or being arrested or detained for days. She'd made it clear if they move to Russia, we're not visiting. They don't understand this at all. We would visit them in Ukraine, why not Russia? Russia is so much more safe than Ukraine! No nazi's, no coups. How could we possibly feel uncomfortable going there???
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I've read of it, but until recently I never really knew what was meant by assertions that propaganda is intended to destroy the ability to distinguish truth. I suppose also that even if you reject the factual claims of propaganda, the overall tone (like a siege mentality) can still get transmitted.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:I've read of it, but until recently I never really knew what was meant by assertions that propaganda is intended to destroy the ability to distinguish truth. This is an old tactic, including an old USSR tactic, but it's special under these circumstances because by what we know it's core to Putin's actual personal beliefs. "Nothing Matters, no one is trustworty" and the associated beliefs aren't just focal to how Russia is governed, it's also central to rendering the very idea of civic discourse and democracy not only difficult, but laughable.
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Baronjutter posted:Yeah my wife's just given up trying to talk to her family about politics. She used to be able to talk about stuff like that with at least her parents, who were very anti-putin and one of the reasons they moved from russia to ukraine was to get away from all that. But after everything getting worse in Ukraine after the nato coup and all russian language news being kremlin propaganda they now want to move back to russia and although they still hate putin they think he's just doing what's needed to defend russia from being surrounded and under siege by the west from all angles. At least putin is trying to defend slavs right to exist. Anti-putin is just code for slav genocide and support for nazi's don't you know. This point of view is very difficult to debate, as it offers an immense gratification for the believer - it sets them up above the sheep as someone wise enough to see through the lies. This means they have additional motivation to not let themselves be proven wrong - it would mean not only they are not above commoners, but also more stupid and gullible than them.
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If I keep my kickstarter receipt soros will pay me back right? Or do I apply via the CIA?
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Looks like law enforcers in Chechnya have ramped up rounding up people on suspicion of homosexuality. 
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Baronjutter posted:If I keep my kickstarter receipt soros will pay me back right? Or do I apply via the CIA? According to some people on Twitter if you have a receipt you already are the CIA/Soros. I actually visited OSF in London last week, funnily enough in the same building as Russia Today. Even if you don't donate to the Kickstarter I've been doing Q&A updates some of you may find interesting: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1278239551/bellingcat-the-home-of-online-investigations/updates
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Looks like law enforcers in Chechnya have ramped up rounding up people on suspicion of homosexuality. Don't worry, Ramzan Kadyrov's gov denied these allegations, claiming gay people don't exist in Chechnya and if they would families would kill them themselves quote:“You cannot arrest or repress people who just don’t exist in the republic,” the spokesman, Alvi Karimov, told the news agency.
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Maybe I'm just naive and can't understand this poo poo, but I could never and still can't understand conservative country's obsession with the gays. It's not like they're a rival political movement or religion, they don't own disproportionate amounts of the economy, they don't have questionable foreign ties or potential loyalties during war. There's just no reason to be so ridiculous towards them. It even seems to be beyond some cynical reason like needing a hated other to rally/distract the people with, it often seems to be a genuine irrational murderous hatred.
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They can dress as a woman to fool good red-blooded Chechnyans to have sex with them and also turn gay. It's that level of reasoning in extremely traditional, patriarchal societies
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At its core, I think it's basically about submission. Breaking from social norms is a rebellion against traditional authority, thus any kind of deviation from a strict interpretation of propriety must be punished, harshly.
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They are very much seen as a political phenomenon; a provocation. They're a manifestation of the influence of the decadent west. Homosexuality is considered an aberration in these countries, so obviously foreign interests must be behind any native efforts in raising awareness and tolerance.
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Another potential path is to consider how these societie's men think about women. Women are things you have sex with and are lower than you. That means that homosexuals want to have sex with *you*, maybe, and put you lower than them. They're terrified at the idea of there being men who could view and treat them like they do women.
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That actually goes some way to explain the rampant coerced gay prostitution/rape of conscripts in the RF military.
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Baronjutter posted:Maybe I'm just naive and can't understand this poo poo, but I could never and still can't understand conservative country's obsession with the gays. It's not like they're a rival political movement or religion, they don't own disproportionate amounts of the economy, they don't have questionable foreign ties or potential loyalties during war. There's just no reason to be so ridiculous towards them. It even seems to be beyond some cynical reason like needing a hated other to rally/distract the people with, it often seems to be a genuine irrational murderous hatred. They undermine the traditional patriarchal structure of the family and society by weakening traditional masculinity, since in this framework masculinity is most of all about power and dominance, and gay men subvert that both by making men the objects of seduction (rather than purely the subjects) and by making men the submissive partner during sex (as well as the dominant partner). That's why guys like Kadyrov don't just say that being gay is bad, they say that homosexuality literally doesn't exist in their proper traditional masculine society, because their masculinity is so strong that it could never be undermined like that.
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vyelkin posted:They undermine the traditional patriarchal structure of the family and society by weakening traditional masculinity, since in this framework masculinity is most of all about power and dominance, and gay men subvert that both by making men the objects of seduction (rather than purely the subjects) and by making men the submissive partner during sex (as well as the dominant partner). That's why guys like Kadyrov don't just say that being gay is bad, they say that homosexuality literally doesn't exist in their proper traditional masculine society, because their masculinity is so strong that it could never be undermined like that.
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