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dwarf74 posted:Poe's Law is a killer when it comes to pizzagaters. That is a 100% sincere theory, I've seen it pop up multiple times
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dwarf74 posted:Poe's Law is a killer when it comes to pizzagaters. Everyone knows that pedophiles are like Batman villains, compelled to model every aspect of their lives around pedophilia, even their names. That also explains all the subtle hints and clues they leave plastered all over their social media profiles and the walls of their businesses and homes.
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Mar 31, 2017 05:19
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What's hosed up is that an entire community has been built around the shakiest bullshit imaginable. It's going to be sad watching marketers really tap into that gullibility
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Mar 31, 2017 05:44
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Begemot posted:Everyone knows that pedophiles are like Batman villains, compelled to model every aspect of their lives around pedophilia, even their names. That also explains all the subtle hints and clues they leave plastered all over their social media profiles and the walls of their businesses and homes. Sympathetic magic is real yo. Unless you think that children are somehow innately so irresistibly attractive that the rich and famous just *have* to gently caress them. I imagine most of them are as repulsed by it as we are. But we've all held our nose and compromised our ethics before for various reasons. That last step for ultimate wealth and control . . . well, by the time you are there you've already made a number of other compromises. So, "in for a penny, in for a pound" as they say.
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Mar 31, 2017 07:02
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None of that post makes any sense
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Mar 31, 2017 08:50
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As has been pointed out, pedophilia rings are real and seem to pop up everywhere in the ultra elite world. From this we can conclude that either 1) loving children is amazing and something everyone would want to do; however it is taboo so only the ultra rich and powerful can do it or 2) loving children is abhorrent but provides advantages distinct from the actual act of loving children. I find option #1 abhorrent and, from my experience, also wrong. I don't know anybody that wants to gently caress kids. So #2 is more reasonable. There is a #3, that "power corrupts" so the inherently taboo nature of loving kids makes it alluring to those jaded on all other experiences. But, again, that runs counter to my experience with the world. Thrill seekers and taboo breakers do exist but I don't see how that would become the regular ritualized sex abuse we can actually observe happening at the highest levels of society. If you were independently wealthy and had extreme political power would you want to gently caress kids? Me neither. Unless they are lizard people or otherwise alien monsters, sympathetic magic seems the most parsimonious explanation. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 31, 2017 09:00
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Shbobdb posted:As has been pointed out, pedophilia rings are real and seem to pop up everywhere in the ultra elite world. Only if you accept the flimsiest possible "a wall full of thumbtacks has to mean SOMETHING" kind of evidence; pedophilia rings exist and are terrible but "pop up everywhere in the ultra elite world" is where you firmly leave behind the land of evidence
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Mar 31, 2017 09:28
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The greatest irony of Pizzagate was it spawning from the fevered minds of 4chan, 8chan and reddit. Y'know, historicly anti-pedo websites. *cough cough*
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Mar 31, 2017 09:33
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Shbobdb posted:As has been pointed out, pedophilia rings are real and seem to pop up everywhere in the ultra elite world. #4 some people are born as ultra rich, pedophiles form rings to protect themselves, and people usually form rings in their socio-economic sphere
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Mar 31, 2017 10:01
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Goa Tse-tung posted:#4 some people are born as ultra rich, pedophiles form rings to protect themselves, and people usually form rings in their socio-economic sphere Um, no. That's obvious and does not make me feel special. So no.
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Mar 31, 2017 10:16
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Isn't Pizzagate basically based on the incorrect premises that no one likes cheese pizza and that everyone is aware of and uses 4chan code phrases in their lives?
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Mar 31, 2017 11:14
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Lightning Lord posted:Isn't Pizzagate basically based on the incorrect premises that no one likes cheese pizza and that everyone is aware of and uses 4chan code phrases in their lives? It all relies on cherry picking out of context photos to say "doesn't this seem weird guys???" In absence of actual evidence like missing children, let alone finding any actual children tied up there. Or the place having an actual basement. If you say that "cheese pizza" is code word for "child prostitute" without any evidence, you've labeled the premises from the start and any mundane conversation looks weird.
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Mar 31, 2017 11:18
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Has no Pizzagater ever been to New York?
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Mar 31, 2017 11:26
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RagnarokAngel posted:It all relies on cherry picking out of context photos to say "doesn't this seem weird guys???" In absence of actual evidence like missing children, let alone finding any actual children tied up there. Or the place having an actual basement. Also the phrase "cheese pizza" never appears in the emails
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Mar 31, 2017 12:42
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Lightning Lord posted:Isn't Pizzagate basically based on the incorrect premises that no one likes cheese pizza and that everyone is aware of and uses 4chan code phrases in their lives? Pizzagate is based on the premise that democrats are evil because they're not republicans therefore democrats are pedophiles. That's it. The guy who came up with pizzagate was a far-right conspiracy theorist nutjob with too much free time on his hands and a desire to find wrongdoing. This is a hallmark story of confirmation bias. The guy who owns Comet Ping Pong started inviting protesters to come inside and look around as much as they want and maybe stick around and have a slice, you have to be completely hosed in the head to not take him up on that offer and then go "oh I guess it's just a normal pizza restaurant after all" The worst part about all of this is that there are real, factual examples of people using their power to cover up their own child abusing tendencies. Fake stories like Pizzagate rob legitimacy from real investigations into real child abusers.
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Mar 31, 2017 14:00
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QuarkJets posted:Pizzagate is based on the premise that democrats are evil because they're not republicans therefore democrats are pedophiles. That's it. The guy who came up with pizzagate was a far-right conspiracy theorist nutjob with too much free time on his hands and a desire to find wrongdoing. This is a hallmark story of confirmation bias. Just like any good conspiracy theory, it allows real criminals to distract from their acts and demonize the opposition.
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Mar 31, 2017 14:20
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The Chairman posted:That is a 100% sincere theory, I've seen it pop up multiple times
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Mar 31, 2017 14:24
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dwarf74 posted:I don't ... I mean, what - do they think the guy changed his name to be a subtle wink for conspiracy theorists? How can you be this disconnected from reality? They think he's mocking them by being so blatant.
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Mar 31, 2017 14:26
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the one thing we can all agree on is that they are hiding something extremely illegal behind all the coded talk. i would say that the probabilities its some kind of child trafficking ring is about 50/50. it could also be drugs or bribes or some other poo poo.
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Mar 31, 2017 14:28
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:the one thing we can all agree on is that they are hiding something extremely illegal behind all the coded talk. i would say that the probabilities its some kind of child trafficking ring is about 50/50. it could also be drugs or bribes or some other poo poo.
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Mar 31, 2017 14:29
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Illuminti posted:Also the phrase "cheese pizza" never appears in the emails So where does the whole "CHEESE PIZZA!? No one likes that! Must be using our lingo for child porn/prostitutes!" tangent I've seen mentioned come from? QuarkJets posted:Pizzagate is based on the premise that democrats are evil because they're not republicans therefore democrats are pedophiles. That's it. The guy who came up with pizzagate was a far-right conspiracy theorist nutjob with too much free time on his hands and a desire to find wrongdoing. This is a hallmark story of confirmation bias. Also I think it comes from thinking politicians are just not human at all and don't do things like swap dad jokes in email
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Mar 31, 2017 14:42
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dwarf74 posted:Actually, we cannot agree on this at all. so you believe podesta really owns a hot dog stand in hawaii? you believe he carries handkerchiefs with pizza related maps on them just because?
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Mar 31, 2017 14:54
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:so you believe podesta really owns a hot dog stand in hawaii? you believe he carries handkerchiefs with pizza related maps on them just because? Cite your sources but I'd totally believe the handkerchief thing he seems like an odd dude.
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Mar 31, 2017 15:00
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:so you believe podesta really owns a hot dog stand in hawaii? you believe he carries handkerchiefs with pizza related maps on them just because? To be fair, hot dog stand ownership is a well known symptom of pedophilia. The pizza map thing is more a sign of kleptomania.
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Mar 31, 2017 15:16
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:so you believe podesta really owns a hot dog stand in hawaii? you believe he carries handkerchiefs with pizza related maps on them just because? Inside jokes you don't have any context for aren't codes, dude
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Mar 31, 2017 15:24
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RagnarokAngel posted:Cite your sources but I'd totally believe the handkerchief thing he seems like an odd dude. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/32795 Podesta emails posted:Hi John, most of you deniers havent even researched pizza gate one bit. i used to be a super rational anti conspiracist too in my younger days until i actually put some time in and found out how evil the government inherently is. im not saying there was rape inside the pizzeria, what im saying is that theres a network of very powerful individuals who are clearly talking in codes and who happen to be into vile disgusting pedo art   Washington Post posted:"At political events, there's an inevitable awkwardness," former Clinton administration official Sally Katzen said at a Women's Campaign Fund dinner at the Podestas' home this summer. "The art is an ice-breaker. It puts people at ease." https://archive.fo/vddrO#selection-3897.0-3913.74
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Mar 31, 2017 15:33
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Lightning Lord posted:So where does the whole "CHEESE PIZZA!? No one likes that! Must be using our lingo for child porn/prostitutes!" tangent I've seen mentioned come from? I don't know about "Nobody likes cheese pizza so it must be code", but the code thing came from 4chan. CP was used as code for child porn, and some people tried to be sneaky by calling it "cheese pizza".
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Mar 31, 2017 15:41
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:the one thing we can all agree on is that they are hiding something extremely illegal behind all the coded talk. i would say that the probabilities its some kind of child trafficking ring is about 50/50. it could also be drugs or bribes or some other poo poo. We can all agree Russia used thousands of hackers to spread misinformation in America. Presumably things including the pizzagate stuff. So with these things being confirmed, we can assume you are a Russian spy, a pedo, or schizophrenic. Am I doing this right?
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Mar 31, 2017 15:54
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:so you believe podesta really owns a hot dog stand in hawaii? you believe he carries handkerchiefs with pizza related maps on them just because? quote:1. Proof of the conspiracy supposedly emerges from a pattern of “connecting the dots” between events that need not be causally connected. When no evidence supports these connections except the allegation of the conspiracy or when the evidence fits equally well to other causal connections—or to randomness—the conspiracy theory is likely to be false.
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Mar 31, 2017 15:55
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/32795 The collage on the bottom you posted is art by Biljana Djurdjevic. That particular art is cherry-picked from her work by pizzagate idiots as "vile disgusting pedo art". But the paintings in that collage aren't necessarily the ones hung in the Podesta home and only represent a fraction of her total output in her work as a painter alone. Show me photos of these particular paintings in the podesta home and you might have something... then again you wouldn't because it's just art. The article linked says this quote:Not always. Folks attending a house tour in the Lake Barcroft neighborhood in Falls Church earlier this year got an eyeful when they walked into a bedroom at the Podesta residence hung with multiple color pictures by Katy Grannan, a photographer known for documentary-style pictures of naked teenagers in their parents' suburban homes. It does not say there are photos of naked teenagers. It says there are photos from a photographer known for photos of naked teenagers. Again, show some proof that the "vile disgusting pedo art" is actually in the podesta home. Also you're an idiot.
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Mar 31, 2017 16:01
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QuarkJets posted:None of that post makes any sense Do you think ol David Cameron hosed a dead pig's head because he found it really hot? Of course not, it's because British rich society is all hosed up and demands its member engage in weird sex things as part of hazing and things like that. Consider also how the major British boarding schools that the scions of powerful and rich families go to have a long history of - let's just call it what it is - older boys raping and sexually assaulting the younger boys. As well as the adults sexually abusing and raping the students. I'd place a lot of money on long term traditions like that explaining the uncovered pedophile rings in the UK's media industry and politics in general quite well. Now obviously this particular setup doesn't have much to do with any American pedophile rings that may or may not exist, but it explains the major UK ones quite well.
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Mar 31, 2017 16:05
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pretty sure pizzagate started as a joke/parody but then a shitload of brokebrains started believing in it shoddbd im pretty sure was/is a gimmick that got too real and smoke something bitch has been off their meds since before the election
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Mar 31, 2017 16:06
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fishmech posted:Do you think ol David Cameron hosed a dead pig's head because he found it really hot? Of course not, it's because British rich society is all hosed up and demands its member engage in weird sex things as part of hazing and things like that. This is basically correct, except why would you assume these institutions don't similarly exist in the US? There are fewer of them because blue blooded boarding schools play a smaller role in US culture but they still exist. Skull and Bones films initiates getting rear end hosed and peed on. Bohemian Grove is the "queerest thing" according to Nixon. It's everywhere.
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Mar 31, 2017 16:58
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Shbobdb posted:This is basically correct, except why would you assume these institutions don't similarly exist in the US? There are fewer of them because blue blooded boarding schools play a smaller role in US culture but they still exist. Skull and Bones films initiates getting rear end hosed and peed on. Bohemian Grove is the "queerest thing" according to Nixon. It's everywhere. This is dumb because you're a stupid unfunny gimmick, but US boarding schools have had tons of problems with teachers raping and abusing students, like dozens of faculty members at a handful of schools just in the last 40-50 years. And before that, who would know or tell? Look up St. George's School in Connecticut (?), or St. Paul's in New York. And the faculty acted like that because that's what was done to them when they were students at schools like those. Now that there's no longer a genteel code of silence about sexual assault on children, things have changed.
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Mar 31, 2017 17:11
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So we agree child rape is/was real and endemic in elite institutions. The next question should be: "why?" Do you think children are just so sexy that people can't help but rape them? Because that's pretty hosed up.
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Mar 31, 2017 17:18
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Positions of authority over children select heavily for people who seek to have power over children, especially in cultures that value appearance over reality and consider sex shameful. You're reversing cause and effect because you're a lovely unfunny gimmick.
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Mar 31, 2017 17:21
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If these people want child sex why wouldn't they stay in positions where they can have access to it? Why go into politics or industry when you could become a teacher or a priest. I agree that true pedophiles are drawn to certain positions because it gives them access to children. That makes sense. What doesn't make sense are all the conservative businessmen and politicians who keep loving children in satanic rituals. It seems like the kid loving isn't the goal in those scenarios. The Skull and Bones society isn't an underground gay group.
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Mar 31, 2017 17:33
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If you aren't just scrolling past shbobdb's stupid "stir up as much poo poo as possible" gimmick posts in any thread he pops up in I assume your other hobbies include nailing your dick to two by fours and drinking cat piss.
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Mar 31, 2017 17:37
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The other poster had a good point about boarding school breeding rapists of children.
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