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thathonkey posted:who do the frogmen hate more? hillary clinton or brown people? do you truly hate vermin, cockroaches, and other lesser creatures in the way you can hate a person that you loathe? for me there's a bit of something else mixed in, maybe some faint pity. for this reason I suspect hillary clinton is the answer
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thathonkey posted:haha this thread is still talkin about hillary rodham clinton Listen trump hosed our asses raw..... BUT IMAGINE IF HILLARY WAS PRESIDENT
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Dizz posted:Listen trump hosed our asses raw..... *autistic screeching*
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EugeneJ posted:The right just took over the government Decades ago, sure. LOL if you don't consider Obama to be on the right
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Jukebox Hero posted:Yes. Look at Trump's margin of victory in the rust belt states and the number of 3rd party voters. Twitter was basically a giant salt factory for days over it.
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Jukebox Hero posted:There are two options
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Sentient Data posted:Decades ago, sure. LOL if you don't consider Obama to be on the right Obama is almost the platonic ideal of a centrist deal-maker. Which doesn't work at all in a world with an unhinged lunatic right whose primary objective for years has been defined strictly by who they hate.
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ikanreed posted:Obama is almost the platonic ideal of a centrist deal-maker. Ok, so ya'll want war, but the people don't. Here's the deal - we drone strike them endlessly. Done and done. Ok, so ya'll wanna gouge consumers on healthcare, but the people don't want that. Here's the deal, we set up a website for easy gouging. Done and done.
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Moridin920 posted:Except the right says that and then does literally the exact opposite. check it out- congress controls the budget. presidents have the veto, and often propose budgets that would be more accurately described as "wish lists", but unless the president's party controls congress and is willing to play ball (less frequent than you might suppose), the veto is a very crude tool and only moderately useful for budget negotiations. the upshot is that the small surplus achieved at the turn of the century was largely a product of the republican revolution of '94 and their policy priorities, although clinton does deserve some credit for his generally pro-growth "third way" political philosophy. the dot com bubble also warrants a shout-out. republicans selling out their values during the bush administration was the primary factor behind bush's abysmal approval ratings towards the end (if you lose your own partisans, the bottom falls out) and directly led to the tea party and a poo poo ton of republicans getting primaried or "retiring." it's tempting to use federal appropriations as a patronage system when you're in power, and it's a shame congressionally-mandated term limits were found unconstitutional, because they were a good reform to address the inevitable corruption of an entrenched political class through regular removal. an interesting addendum is that clinton's success was found in adopting republican positions (triangulation, "era of big government is over") while the republican downfall was found in adopting democratic positions (  neocons were disillusioned democrats)please do better, moridin 
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Mar 31, 2017 17:52
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trump is cool and good and will win re-election easily, hopefully rbg dies in the next 7 years so we can correct the supreme court of horrid people
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Ok, so ya'll want war, but the people don't. Here's the deal - we drone strike them endlessly. Done and done. Donald trump is not meaningfully different on these kind of issues. I stayed home for the 2016 presidential election because i'm not loving stupid enough to think trump was any different from shilldawg. Still important to be opposed.
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Mar 31, 2017 18:11
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100% if Trump is the same old kind of politician, I have no problem admitting he's trash and that I got suckered.
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Mar 31, 2017 18:13
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So...what are you waiting for?
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Nut to Butt posted:republicans selling out their values during the bush administration was the primary factor behind bush's abysmal approval ratings towards the end (if you lose your own partisans, the bottom falls out) and directly led to the tea party and a poo poo ton of republicans getting primaried or "retiring." new phone who dis posted:Do you think nobody noticed the people who didn't vote or voted third party this time? Vote your beliefs, but pretty skeptical the message actually comes through in real political terms.
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:100% if Trump is the same old kind of politician, I have no problem admitting he's trash and that I got suckered. does a helper help you put your pants on and stuff? god bless them
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Ok, so ya'll want war, but the people don't. Here's the deal - we drone strike them endlessly. Done and done. the second paragraph is probably one of the most retarded things youve ever posted and good god is that saying a lot 
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thathonkey posted:the second paragraph is probably one of the most retarded things youve ever posted and good god is that saying a lot They just took the old free-market system and made it more accessible - he's not wrong
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thathonkey posted:the second paragraph is probably one of the most retarded things youve ever posted and good god is that saying a lot If you can watch this and be cool with it, I don't know what to tell you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9Cla0waf80
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Mar 31, 2017 18:54
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Yes, a new healthcare system that hosed the majority overall was cool and good. Thanks for tanking wages and slashing plans.
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Mar 31, 2017 18:57
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Obama's little fuckbois are literally laughing in our faces, Obama was a cool dude tho right
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it's great the efftronica's wannabes come in here and try to be edgy, it just makes the thread that much better!
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Can we ignore drone striking weddings some more? The golden boy Obama poo poo never gets old.
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The Landstander posted:If that was really a principled stance by conservatives against their party, it seems like it would've come down when they were actually selling out their values - i.e. Medicare Part D was a pharmaceutical giveaway in 'entitlement' form, which should theoretically be the worst of both worlds, and passed in 2003, and even got Paul Ryan's vote. I suspect Republicans jumping ship on Bush at the end had a lot less to do with the deficit, and more to do with the economic downturn and subsequent Wall Street collapse, where the Republicans were basically in an indefensible position. you correctly identified a major first straw, but it's not unusual for grassroots backlashes like the tea party to operate on a delay because the outrage over "betrayals" is cumulative. an easy example would be the declaration of independence's inclusion of the litany of abuses suffered at the hands of king george iii. there was quite a bit of consternation amongst conservatives over part d, but ultimately it won out because it was viewed as good politics (of the pork variety) and that is exactly the sort of partisan "pragmatism" that stems from being the establishment. the two other major "betrayals" were the attempted immigration reform, and everything that was done in response to the 2007 recession. the support wasn't lost from the elected republicans who were running scared, but from the base, which is why i talked about approval rating rather than congressional votes.
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Mar 31, 2017 19:23
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While I don't typically care about politics I am on the opposite side of whatever moridin is talking about
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Moridin920 posted:Next time vote for Bernie in the primaries you morons. For this to matter the primaries have to be, yknow "not literally rigged" And lmao forever if you think the DNC is physically Capable of doing something without corruption
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T.S. Smelliot posted:
But they look out for me 
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Mar 31, 2017 19:57
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Health insurance was awesome when companies could consider nearly everything a pre existing condition and you could get policies for $49 a month that covered literally nothing.
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scrubs season six posted:Health insurance was awesome when companies could consider nearly everything a pre existing condition and you could get policies for $49 a month that covered literally nothing. Now it's 300$ a month for those same policies, I guess everyone can get them though so that's cool
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All Obama had to do was pass a law "Cannot deny due to pre-existing condition" and he would've won the day
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Gee if only one party suggested the idea of not letting premiums rise after implementing the "you can't just leave people out to die" rule.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:So...what are you waiting for? Still better than Hillary
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T.S. Smelliot posted:Still better than Hillary lol
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trump has a big ole dumpy rump, is he stuffing ?? diaps?? maybe that's where he keeps his tax papers 
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Now it's 300$ a month for those same policies, I guess everyone can get them though so that's cool Those policies no longer exist, genius.
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Why isn't DWS in prison yet for robbing bernie of a legit chance?
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:All Obama had to do was pass a law "Cannot deny due to pre-existing condition" and he would've won the day Do you actually pick what you're arguing on favor of or do you just say whatever idiot poo poo comes to mind because that's my gimmick and you're stealing it
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So how long are people going to defend Obamacare as the second coming while choking on government cock?
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