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Tias
May 25, 2008

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Euro politics wonk here: The Netherlands achieved a victory for the milquetoast racism-fellating center, and the virulent hardline racists went forward four mandates - so it's more or less a more racist status quo :/

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Falstaff
Apr 27, 2008

I have a kind of alacrity in sinking.

Tias posted:

Euro politics wonk here: The Netherlands achieved a victory for the milquetoast racism-fellating center, and the virulent hardline racists went forward four mandates - so it's more or less a more racist status quo :/

Yeah, I dunno why anyone would treat that election as a victory for anybody even vaguely left-of-centre, much less any actual leftists.

e: though that people do would, I guess, explain why anyone would think that Bill Clinton was pretty okay compared to George W.'s "hellride."

Red Dad Redemption
Sep 29, 2007

as with every other large scale political event, there are a lot of confounding variables here: many factors contributed to the win on ahca

but among them, however small its contribution, was an active and aggressive public presence

it's something that can create, and has created, momentum, and something to take a moment to appreciate and celebrate, before turning to the next fight

kudos to everyone who made calls, sent letters, got out into meetings or protests, or otherwise contributed

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Annual Prophet posted:

as with every other large scale political event, there are a lot of confounding variables here: many factors contributed to the win on ahca

but among them, however small its contribution, was an active and aggressive public presence

it's something that can create, and has created, momentum, and something to take a moment to appreciate and celebrate, before turning to the next fight

kudos to everyone who made calls, sent letters, got out into meetings or protests, or otherwise contributed

I think that momentum is going to be really important and really powerful moving forward. People who previously felt powerless for whatever reason are just now finding out that they do indeed have incredible power if they would just care to exercise it. This was kind of a haymaker out of nowhere though and I doubt the GOP is as unprepared for it now so I'm looking forward to turning these townhalls into pissed-off votes-in-waiting.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
I'm hoping to see some results in our township elections this coming Tuesday. The Democrat running for Township Supervisor has really gone all-out, taking this incredibly seriously and doing a great job getting her name out there. I hope it makes a difference.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Falstaff posted:

Yeah, I dunno why anyone would treat that election as a victory for anybody even vaguely left-of-centre, much less any actual leftists.

I think its mainly because of Americans being used to their two-party system so "the fascists didn't become the largest party" automatically translates to "they lost", even though it was a win for the fascists as they gained seats. They only didn't become the biggest because the right-wing liberal party basically moved to the political position the fascists were, last election.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

dwarf74 posted:

I'm hoping to see some results in our township elections this coming Tuesday. The Democrat running for Township Supervisor has really gone all-out, taking this incredibly seriously and doing a great job getting her name out there. I hope it makes a difference.

In my podunk city's mayoral race they're sending O'Malley to campaign for the D candidate tomorrow and then Bernie is coming later on during the general phase (it's got a Louisiana-style primary-runoff setup instead of party primaries).

It's Omaha, in case anyone hasn't read anything anywhere it's basically a cornfield with a half million people in it.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

dwarf74 posted:

I'm hoping to see some results in our township elections this coming Tuesday. The Democrat running for Township Supervisor has really gone all-out, taking this incredibly seriously and doing a great job getting her name out there. I hope it makes a difference.
Well, holy poo poo, guys.

Bloomington/Normal had a Democratic sweep kind of a night. Not a clean sweep - but drat close to it. And the Normal Mayoral race is within 7 votes (3,113 to 3,106), with 35 outstanding absentee ballots that they're giving 2 weeks to arrive. So that's headed to a recount basically no matter what.

But I mean, just look at this loving thing in the middle of Central IL. The green boxes are tonight's winners.


e: I missed Scott Black. He won, too - essentially unopposed. Corrected, now.


(I have no idea what's going on with the Dist 87 board. The vote tallies look straight-up jacked.)

I'm thrilled Sarah Grammer won; she's been amazingly active and I wouldn't be surprised to see her running for state or even national office in the coming years. She's the first Democrat to even bother running for the seat since 1971. I am disappointed Jodie didn't win, though; my wife met her at the Chicago Women's March, which is how we got connected to all of this in the first place.

Anyway. Hoooooly poo poo.

dwarf74 fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Apr 5, 2017

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Congrats and thanks for your hard work!

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Shbobdb posted:

Congrats and thanks for your hard work!
I wish I could have done more. I mostly cheerleaded and spread information to my friends.

The Normal Town Council was 5 Republicans before tonight. After tonight, it is 4 Democrats (including Supervisor) and 1 Republican.

Our local NPR affiliate posted an article discussing the grassroots activism that made this happen.

Winter Rose
Sep 27, 2007

Understand how unstable the truth can be.

Anyone in this thread thinking about running for office? I've been abroad for the past year, but as soon as I return to the USA and get settled I've been thinking about hitting the ground running and seeing what I can do on a local level.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
I've considered running for a water board or something. One guy tried to convince me to run for a position as a judge, because it pays really well and I had a good chance of winning, but drat, I don't think it's a good idea for someone with no legal training, and only a high school diploma to be a judge.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I've considered running for a water board or something. One guy tried to convince me to run for a position as a judge, because it pays really well and I had a good chance of winning, but drat, I don't think it's a good idea for someone with no legal training, and only a high school diploma to be a judge.

I mean, it's not, but it might be better than the alternative.

killer crane
Dec 30, 2006

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I've considered running for a water board or something. One guy tried to convince me to run for a position as a judge, because it pays really well and I had a good chance of winning, but drat, I don't think it's a good idea for someone with no legal training, and only a high school diploma to be a judge.

You're just as qualified for that as the president is for his position. For real though, running a candidate is better than running no one, and just letting some other jagoff with a highschool diploma get the position.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
I'd rather have some rando goon for my elected judge than the corrupt rear end in a top hat who actually, in fact, is the local judge for my home township back in New York. I mean, I know for a fact that he's incompetent and plays favorites with his buddies; just plain incompetent would be a step up.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I've considered running for a water board or something. One guy tried to convince me to run for a position as a judge, because it pays really well and I had a good chance of winning, but drat, I don't think it's a good idea for someone with no legal training, and only a high school diploma to be a judge.

How well? Corrupt and power-hungry is worse than incompetent but well-meaning.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
$101,500 /yr

Edit:

Sure would look both good, and bizarre on a resume as I work in technology. Just took a four year break from doing computer stuff to run a traffic court.

Dr. Arbitrary fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Apr 6, 2017

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

$101,500 /yr

Edit:

Sure would look both good, and bizarre on a resume as I work in technology. Just took a four year break from doing computer stuff to run a traffic court.

It's imperative you do this, and that you continue to post about it for as long as you do it.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
Maybe someday. Right now I'm working on a congressional campaign.

Primary challenge from the left.

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?
So Bernie Sanders has endorsed one of the Democratic candidates for Governor of Virginia, Tom Perriello, who is already the guy I was inclined to support. Obviously his endorsement isn't a magic wand but it's one more thing on the pile of things that makes me think a more passionate, outspoken guy is right for this particular historical moment. The other candidate is a good guy who has been a good lieutenant governor and I'd obviously vote for him in a general but with Trump in office the time has come for outspoken advocacy of resistance and progressive causes over genteel and measured movement.

Ryguy005
Sep 5, 2005
So I got an internship at my local democratic party for the summer and I was wondering if there were any books people would recommend? Like on canvassing or working with people. I already picked up rules for radicals and Coup d'État. I was wondering if there were any more recommendations?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

There are two books that just came out--Hegemony How-To and No Shortcuts--that are supposed to be updated to Alinksy. I hear the name Kate Bronfenbrenner a lot too in an organizing context.

There's also a recent history of direct action and protest called, appropriately enough, Direct Action that might give you inspiration or motivation.

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*

Quorum posted:

So Bernie Sanders has endorsed one of the Democratic candidates for Governor of Virginia, Tom Perriello, who is already the guy I was inclined to support. Obviously his endorsement isn't a magic wand but it's one more thing on the pile of things that makes me think a more passionate, outspoken guy is right for this particular historical moment. The other candidate is a good guy who has been a good lieutenant governor and I'd obviously vote for him in a general but with Trump in office the time has come for outspoken advocacy of resistance and progressive causes over genteel and measured movement.

My buddy was one of his top 5 campaign people for his congressional run back in 08. My buddy was a sophomore in in college at the time. It was a real shoestring campaign against a poo poo heel republican, I think Virgil Goode went on to run for a 3rd party in a presidential bid, but Perriello is an awesome guy. He was one of the incoming dems who fell on their swords to get the ACA passed, actually ran on the dem record in congress as a positive and was promptly thrown out by his rural dipshit district. I'm not sure what kind of legal work he's been doing from then to now but he was a great congressmen who I would love to see as the head executive in Virginia. Hell, if he pulls that off he might even have a shot at a federal political office. The man can handle a crowd.

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?
IIRC he spent the last several years as the us special envoy to the congo, so he's been doing mostly diplomatic stuff of late. Seems it worked, though, they just had a major power sharing deal he helped broker.

emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology
I live in Tom's old district and I am super glad he is making a run for it. We all know the ACA isn't perfect but I will always be very grateful that Tom decided the chance to make some peoples lives better was more important than getting reelected. He knew for certain that casting that vote was gonna get him voted out, but did it anyway.

Northram seems fine in an abstract way, but in my opinion Tom is strait up better all the way. Also I sincerely think Northam gets the poo poo kicked out of him by Ed Gillespie (the likely R nominee).Northram is strait up boring and uninspiring, hes not gonna be convincing anyone to go out and do something they are the fence about, like ya know, vote.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ryguy005 posted:

So I got an internship at my local democratic party for the summer and I was wondering if there were any books people would recommend? Like on canvassing or working with people. I already picked up rules for radicals and Coup d'État. I was wondering if there were any more recommendations?

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Ryguy005 posted:

So I got an internship at my local democratic party for the summer and I was wondering if there were any books people would recommend? Like on canvassing or working with people. I already picked up rules for radicals and Coup d'État. I was wondering if there were any more recommendations?

I always recommend Words that Work, and Don't Think of an Elephant.

Try to pick up the first one at a library or something though. Luntz is a shithead.

As for canvassing, I recommend you think deeply about why you're involved, find the the story that motivated you from sitting on the sidelines to engaging in the thick of it. That story is your in. Connect to people with your story and they'll connect to the rest of your message.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I'm planning on getting involved locally soon (wanted to get started sooner, but getting used to things after moving, depression, and the search for a job have complicated things), and intend to visit the local county Democrat office on Wednesday, as well as join some of the local Democratic clubs. I'm in Fresno, California; is anyone here familiar with the local party and what they're like? I talked to a woman on the phone and it sounded like they're:
  • Serious about fighting Trump (she mentioned the importance of winning 2018 elections because of the 2020 census, and also that they've been "working nonstop since January" or something)
  • Extremely overworked and understaffed
So. We'll see how that goes I guess. Looking at their site and the site of associated Dem clubs in the area they don't seem like outwardly bad Dems at least. Still, any information and assistance would be appreciated.

FutonForensic
Nov 11, 2012

More DSA members are taking public office: http://www.dsa-atlanta.org/khalid_kamau_wins_so_fulton_city_council_seat

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love

That is cool as poo poo. I'm gonna have to give them some money.

BCR
Jan 23, 2011

Billy Bragg - The Internationale
Billy Bragg - There is power in a Union
Pete Seeger - Solidarity Forever

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



I always really enjoyed this version of Come On All Ye Coal Miners by the black metal group/solo project Panopticon. It's not actually a black metal song, more of a bluegrass number, but from an album all about Kentucky & it's coal mining history. The full album is worth a listen if you can handle black metal, but if you're into just folky stuff then I'd at least recommend this one song, he's also done a good version of Which Side Are You On?

Great black metal which isn't done by shithead racists but is actually by good leftist folk is always worth evangelising about. Iskra are another good example of red black metal.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If you're doing lefty music I quite like cheery britpop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIeF7cQR-70

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4xY4zImmP8

AstheWorldWorlds
May 4, 2011
https://youtu.be/pdlA3ak1IDg

Speaking of good leftist musicians in often right wing genres, Rome does a lot of stuff in a neo-folk style but he is an anarcho-communist and vocal anti fascist.

That link is from an album dealing with the Spanish Civil War for example.

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


don't forget to post your lefty music in the lefty music thread :buddy: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3817349

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.
I never really liked Bragg's version of the internationale, something he said about simplifying the lyrics for working people always came across as very paternalistic to me.

Modena City Ramblers do some great Italian partisan tunes. Check out Dick Gaughan for some good old Scottish socialist stuff, and The Wakes for a more modern take.

Tias
May 25, 2008

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I just saw David Rovics here in Copenhagen, going to see him again on the 1st of May. Definitely a must-hear if you're into socialist/indi folk.

https://davidrovics.bandcamp.com/track/landlord

https://davidrovics.bandcamp.com/track/if-clintons-a-progressive

http://www.davidrovics.com/songbook/black-flag-flying-3/

Government Handjob
Nov 1, 2004

Gudbrandsglasnost
College Slice
Happy International Worker's Day, comrades!
When will America join the fold and embrace May Day?
I had hoped that the enthusiasm around protesting Trumpco would lead to some noteworthy events stateside today, does anyone know if there are plans for any larger demonstrations

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

My city has five or six things going on this year. May Day in the US is muted compared to other countries because of our history of violent suppression of workers and legacy of anticommunism. We're the only country with "Labor Day" so nobody knows May Day, like how our version of Armistice Day/Remembrance Day avoids mentioning World War I and shifts attention to living veterans and a different holiday acknowledges our military dead so that we can continue to be vicious militaristic beasts enforcing a hegemonic global consensus.

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GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.
It looks like Seattle has something like 15 different marches or rallys planned for today including a pro Trump one planned for the same time as the anarchist march. Should be good.

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