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"Money and power through homicide" is a sound business model in the lower wards of Throne, kudos to Oscar for his entrepreneurial acumen.
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Mazerunner posted:I figured that granddad was slang, or maybe an insult, or maybe a term of affection. "Hey, you're old and have been around long as gently caress". Nah, Princess is actually Oscar's granddad, although it's not literal.
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Reene posted:I feel so bad for Princess and also for everyone else whose lives Allison is about to tremendously gently caress up This is why you will never be Royalty.
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Apr 1, 2017 18:50
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Okay, the best motto in the omniverse has now been determined.
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Well Allison seems to be getting the "throw all your friends under the bus at the first opportunity" part of being a demiurge down pat.
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Apr 1, 2017 18:53
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A big flaming stink posted:Well Allison seems to be getting the "throw all your friends under the bus at the first opportunity" part of being a demiurge down pat. I've said it before, but this is giving me some intense D&D flashbacks. I'm looking forward to seeing where things go when Allison pushes the rest of the party too far.
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Apr 1, 2017 20:00
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"Money and power through homicide" seems like a version of "reach heaven through violence" where someone wasn't really on top of the concepts involved yet.
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Apr 1, 2017 20:16
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I wonder if there is anything preventing a devil from following Zoss's path, or if their nature makes such impossible. someone with twitter tweet this at abby
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A big flaming stink posted:I wonder if there is anything preventing a devil from following Zoss's path, or if their nature makes such impossible.
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Apr 1, 2017 21:24
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JT Jag posted:Humans are the only creatures in Yis-Un's multiverse with true free will. Angels, devils and servants are all bound by their inherent natures, to varying degrees. It's why humanity is so dangerous and why Angels hate them so much. I think that's a little extreme- humans are just purposeless and die naturally, so the degree of Want and therefore burning will is incredibly high. Angels, Devils, and Servants all have natural paths in life - angels get older and bigger and guard the law, Devils get older and bigger and seek a black name, servants get older and probably own a noodle store, servants kinda got shafted. Humans just die. It means we have to make up what matters to us ourselves, and can't ever stop going for it if we want it. And a few humans /really/ want it. It's not about free will, it's about the lash of existential dread and the radical freedom to say 'yeah, my purpose is to be the loving best at Cutting' or whatever else.
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Apr 1, 2017 21:47
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A big flaming stink posted:Well Allison seems to be getting the "throw all your friends under the bus at the first opportunity" part of being a demiurge down pat. I'd be strongly surprised if this doesn't end with all Allison's allies forsaking her and being forced to make it on her own for a while.
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Apr 1, 2017 21:56
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How quickly we all forget the proverb of the one chosen waifu, as told by the under comic text.
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Schwarzwald posted:I'd be strongly surprised if this doesn't end with all Allison's allies forsaking her and being forced to make it on her own for a while. As Vladok, Princess reneged on a deal with Allison and then tried to kill her - and now Princess is basically saying that somehow makes Allison responsible for her angry, violent, blue self. Cio is into Allison, but she also just copped to trying to manipulate and use Allison for her own ends. White Chain has basically promised to betray Allison at an unspecified future date and continually tries to order her around and treats Allison like a not-particularly-intelligent child. Nyave is almost as much a fish out of water as Allison herself - she's also the only one who actually advises Allison instead of using that as an excuse to tell her what to do. Meanwhile, it's not like Allison's plans have been objectively worse than any of theirs. White Chain's decision to take Allison to see Cio was an outright disaster that could have been easily avoided. Cio's admonitions that Allison couldn't handle what she was taking on haven't exactly been on point. Both have proved to have badly flawed assumptions about the goals of powerful people around them, and done a terrible job of predicting the actions and motivations of those powers. If anything, Allison has been most successful when she's actively gone against the advice of Cio and White Chain and pulled her bull in the china shop routine. Comrade Gorbash fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Apr 1, 2017 |
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I'm thinking less about how successful her plans are and more about how she's treating her friends/subjects. It wasn't too many pages ago that she referred to White Chain as a "miss" against his wishes, and now she's referring to Cio as "Yabalchoath" despite the fact that she "never, ever want[s] to be that person again." Allison is burning through good will very quickly, and while her ignorance and bullheadedness are an asset in other areas, I don't think they'll serve her here. Bad times are ahead.
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Schwarzwald posted:I'm thinking less about how successful her plans are and more about how she's treating her friends/subjects. It wasn't too many pages ago that she referred to White Chain as a "miss" against his wishes, and now she's referring to Cio as "Yabalchoath" despite the fact that she "never, ever want[s] to be that person again." Well, she established previously why exactly what everyone wanted out of her and what they could provide to her. Friendship wasn't part of the equation for any of them.
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Tenebrais posted:Well, she established previously why exactly what everyone wanted out of her and what they could provide to her. Friendship wasn't part of the equation for any of them. White Chain wants Allison to give the key to Zaid, and is providing help to rescue Zaid to that end. Cio seemingly wants protection from her husband, and is helping rob Mammon (to rescue Zaid) to that end. After Zaid is rescued, White Chain's business is over. And as much as Cio clings to Allison for protection, she could easily come to the conclusion that Allison exposes her to more risk than she provides protection. And as you said, friendship isn't part of the equation.
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Owning a noodle shop is a pretty amazing outcome, it allows you to be fat and happy with a family and probably no one is in a quest that involves your noodle shop. Wasn't that what Meti tried to tell Maya? When the pursuers had their lunatic brawl, the noodle guy was just fine. Reach heaven through violence, but prosperity is from noodles
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Schwarzwald posted:After Zaid is rescued, White Chain's business is over. And as much as Cio clings to Allison for protection, she could easily come to the conclusion that Allison exposes her to more risk than she provides protection. Basically, I'm not pushing back against the idea that Allison is being an rear end in a top hat. She definitely is. But it's not because she doesn't realize it. She just doesn't give a gently caress, and in the case of Cio and White Chain, has understandable reasons for not giving a gently caress. In particular, neither of them have treated her with respect or as an equal, and have mostly treated her like an idiot and a tool. As much as Allison might need to learn to treat her companions well, they - especially White Chain - need to learn to take Allison seriously.
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Comrade Gorbash posted:As much as Allison might need to learn to treat her companions well, they - especially White Chain - need to learn to take Allison seriously. On this, I don't disagree.
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Apr 2, 2017 02:52
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The President of the Bad Decision Club is still in office.
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Tuxedo Ted posted:The President of the Bad Decision Club is still in office. Reach Heaven Through Bad Decisions.
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White Coke posted:Reach Heaven Through Bad Decisions.
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PMush Perfect posted:That does seem to be Allison's arc, making bad decisions and then just following through on them long after anyone less Royal would have cut and run. Pictured: Royalty 
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ZeeToo posted:"Money and power through homicide" seems like a version of "reach heaven through violence" where someone wasn't really on top of the concepts involved yet. Why bother trying to reach heaven when you know you won't get there?
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Schwarzwald posted:After Zaid is rescued I'm making a guess that Allison's prince is in another castle.
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Say Nothing posted:I'm making a guess that Allison's prince is in another castle. Ehhh, I could see the story ripping past that quicker that we expected.
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Avshalom posted:i find oscar's nose extremely intimidating 
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PMush Perfect posted:That does seem to be Allison's arc, making bad decisions and then just following through on them long after anyone less Royal would have cut and run. The grand irony of cutting and running is that very little cutting is involved.
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atomicthumbs posted:Why bother trying to reach heaven when you know you won't get there? Why bother getting your head cut off when it won't kill you?
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Apr 2, 2017 20:02
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Royalty: Hold my beer and watch this.
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paranoid randroid posted:Royalty: Hold my beer and watch this.
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White Coke posted:Reach Heaven Through Bad Decisions.
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paranoid randroid posted:Royalty: Hold my beer and watch this. I think you mean "Hold my wait *chugs * hold my empty glass now what was I going to do again?"
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Bilirubin posted:I think you mean "Hold my wait *chugs * hold my empty glass now what was I going to do again?" The Most Holy Mantra of Aesma is to mutter, "gently caress it." under your breath as you go to do something.
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Ashcans posted:Owning a noodle shop is a pretty amazing outcome, it allows you to be fat and happy with a family and probably no one is in a quest that involves your noodle shop. Wasn't that what Meti tried to tell Maya? Quoted for truth. Noodles are awesome.
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