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Phuzun: Jul 4, 2007

Looks like Robo Recall got the 360 degree update today. I'll give it a shot later and see how it is.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 19:25

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# ? May 25, 2024 19:54

The Walrus: Jul 9, 2002; by Fluffdaddy

does it get rid of the stupid joystick rotation feature? that's pretty useless in a 360 format and it really doesn't work well with the vive touchpad.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 19:36

Bum the Sad: Aug 25, 2002; Hell Gem

Phuzun posted:

Looks like Robo Recall got the 360 degree update today. I'll give it a shot later and see how it is.

Yeah was gonna post this. I had waited to play it(other then demo'ing it at PAX south) until this patch was released. I'm excited!

# ? Mar 31, 2017 20:01

Phuzun: Jul 4, 2007

Just played a mission, you now just teleport and it's up to you to do all turning.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 22:15

AgentF: May 11, 2009

Oceanbound posted:

Family's coming over to check out the Vive tomorrow, so I got Soundboxing. Holy poo poo, my arms. My poor arms.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 22:46

Knifegrab: Jul 30, 2014; Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.

Boy Giant Cop was a waste of money. It is a really pretty game. But you'll play it for a tiny bit and then you've done literally everything. Its hardly a game. Huge disappointment.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 22:50

Cojawfee: May 31, 2006; I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

I guess Oculus saved all those Vive people a bunch of money what with the exclusivity boycott.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 23:14

Knifegrab: Jul 30, 2014; Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.

Cojawfee posted:

I guess Oculus saved all those Vive people a bunch of money what with the exclusivity boycott.

I suspect the buyout has something to do with this crap. I mean when you make all your money upfront whats the real incentive to make a really kick rear end game? They sure used that money to polish a turd let me tell you.

Its a $2-3 game, not 25 dollars haha jesus

Knifegrab fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Mar 31, 2017

# ? Mar 31, 2017 23:24

Cojawfee: May 31, 2006; I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Looking at the trailer, it looks like a game someone thought would be really awesome. Then when they realized there wasn't much game there, they decided to just make it into a sandbox game.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 23:36

Knifegrab: Jul 30, 2014; Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.

Cojawfee posted:

Looking at the trailer, it looks like a game someone thought would be really awesome. Then when they realized there wasn't much game there, they decided to take Oculus's money and call it a day.

I don't blame them either.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 23:38

Ralith: Jan 12, 2011; I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today

App13 posted:

Anyone feeling some Pavlov/Serious Sam TFE/BAM this weekend?

Absolutely! Pavlov TDM gets boring but S&D can be frustrating with random teams. Is there a VR goons IRC channel or something to coordinate through?

# ? Apr 1, 2017 00:55

rage-saq: Mar 21, 2001; Thats so ninja...

The new Onward patch is outstanding. Instead of going over every one here's the patchnotes.

Dante the Onward Dev posted:

Hey guys,

The team and I have been hard at work to bring you this March update. This update contains a new map, new game mode, and a bunch of gameplay updates and fixes. We are still finalizing increasing the player count to 5v5, so expect that in a soon to follow patch.

I would like to thank the community for your patience on this update, you all are awesome. We think it was worth the wait and hope you do too.

Known Issues: Occasionally the Exit button in the tent will not successfully return to the main menu and will require restart. Ballistic shield temporarily removed for fixing.

Stay updated on Onward, converse with the community, and participate in organized competitive events by joining our Discord![discord.gg]

Best,

Dante

Featured Updates
New Map: Bazaar
A Middle Eastern market space
Chance of a sandstorm to hit during gameplay

New Game Mode: Escort
One Marsoc player is randomly selected to be the VIP
Escort the VIP to one of the evac points
Available on Maps: Bazaar, Downfall1, Downfall2, Quarantine1, Quarantine2

Loadout System
Each part of your Loadout has a point cost associated with it, so you�ll have to prioritize what you bring to the fight
Added bullet penetration, and reworked body armor, weapon damage, and grenade damage (more info in "General" below)

General
Slightly reworked movement system to be more intuitive (for both experienced and new players)
Previous:
- Raising your gun to aim down sights slowed your movement by a flat rate
- An exploit allowed you to move at full speed while aiming if your offhand was rotated a specific way
Now:
- Raising your gun slows your speed based on how much it is raised
- Aiming with pistols doesn�t reduce speed as much as aiming with Primary weapon
Added Bullet Penetration
Bullets lose some of their damage when passing through objects they penetrate
If a bullet loses too much damage, it gets impacted in the object it was trying to penetrate
Penetration has been added to wood materials. Fences in Suburbia, fences in Downfall, and market clutter in Bazaar
Changed the way Body Armor functions
Previous:
- All damage dealt to torso area by FMJ bullets was blocked
Now:
- Body armor has separate health from the player that degrades with damage
- Damage from AP bullets goes through this health and only applies damage to player health
- Damage from FMJ bullets will deal all its damage to body armor health. If the armor is reduced to no health, any excess and future damage is applied to player health and the armor is no longer useful
Changed the way Grenade damage functions
Previous:
- Grenades dealt full damage to players in grenade blast radius
Now:
- A player in the blast radius of a grenade receives part of the damage applied directly to player health and part of the damage applied to their chest (which will deal damage the same way FMJ damage does to the chest)
- Grenade damage is reduced by penetrating materials
- Grenade damage can be reduced by other players blocking line of sight to the grenade blast. Fall on a grenade to protect your team!
Each weapon has variable damage. In general, higher costing weapons deal slightly more damage
Pistol damage has been reduced by 50% (still gets multiplied by locational damage)
Added Equipment 2 slot that allows for Body Armor and Night Vision to be equipped at the same time
Downfall1 & 2: Added occasional Sandstorm weather event
Added new music by Rich Douglas
Changed crouch height to be relative to player�s set height rather than using a set crouch height (this should help with some smaller players being stuck constantly crouching)
Increased syringe �holster� collider size to make it easier to put away after equipping
Changed War Objective range for interaction from box to cylinder
Changed smoke grenade effects to be more dense when inside the grenade than before
Single player shooting range now works offline
Upgraded to Unity 5.5
Lobby/UX
Added a map to the spectate view during rounds
Vote Kick now prevents player from rejoining that lobby for an hour
Added �killed by� text to tent after death
Added Game Mode to server browser entries
Changed tent model
Renamed previous �War� Game Mode to �Uplink�
Increased resolution of most UI text
Optimization
Reduced memory usage
Added �Lowest� Quality setting
Weapon and Loadout systems refactor
Optimized frag and smoke grenade particles
Downfall1 & 2: Removed excess props outside of map bounds
Fixes
Addressed some exploits
Fixed scope clipping when held close to camera
Fixed mouse cursor being locked to game window on start
Fixed sometimes getting too many players on the same team
Fixed ability to walk on barbed wire fences
Fixed ability to hold mag between rounds to retain ammo
Fixed vest colliding with geometry and getting stuck
Fixed kit being difficult to access while prone
Fixed player models sometimes being invisible

The new map Bazaar is really, really good. Medium sized, lots and lots of routes, lots of cover and multiple levels, its crazy awesome. Its a significant step up from the maps that preceded it.
The new game mode Escort is much more dynamic and intense than Uplink. One person on Marsoc is made the VIP on map spawn-in who only has a pistol, syringe, knife and body armor and they have to run across one of two extraction points marked on the map.
The map getting added to spectator mode is also really great, lets you see little dots where your team on the map is and the objective(s) are.

The performance boosts are real, I was able to up my SS from 1.4 on my 1070 to 1.6 and I'm still very smooth. My only complaint is that the scope on the SKS appears to have moved forwards further from the firing hand which makes me a little sad. I hope it gets an adjustable scope adjustment like H3VR does soon.

# ? Apr 1, 2017 10:02

Bhodi: Dec 9, 2007; Oh, it's just a cat.; Pillbug

Can you change your loadouts while dead yet?

# ? Apr 1, 2017 15:06

HerpicleOmnicron5: May 31, 2013; How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?

Ralith posted:

Absolutely! Pavlov TDM gets boring but S&D can be frustrating with random teams. Is there a VR goons IRC channel or something to coordinate through?

Here's the VR Goons discord. OP, please add it to the OP so that people can just join whenever without having to ask.

# ? Apr 1, 2017 15:28

Cojawfee: May 31, 2006; I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Is that a permanent invite or a temporary one?

# ? Apr 1, 2017 15:29

HerpicleOmnicron5: May 31, 2013; How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?

Permanent. It'll always work, never expire, no limit.

# ? Apr 1, 2017 15:33

rage-saq: Mar 21, 2001; Thats so ninja...

Bhodi posted:

Can you change your loadouts while dead yet?

No not yet. The new overmap in the death lobby is awesome though!

# ? Apr 1, 2017 17:47

jonathan: Jul 3, 2005; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Anyone know if there will be another pimax vr headset coming out with more sensors to allow head movement ? As I understand it, it currently only does rotation/tilt but actual movement of your head isn't picked up yet.

Vive/Oculus pricing is absurd in Canada for last year's tech.

# ? Apr 1, 2017 19:41

rage-saq: Mar 21, 2001; Thats so ninja...

jonathan posted:

Vive/Oculus pricing is absurd in Canada for last year's tech.

"Last Years Tech" that is still the only tier1 motion and location tracked VR+controller setup for probably the next 16-18 months.
VR without a vive wand or touch controller quality or much in the way of common VR software support is an experience on par with mobile VR.

# ? Apr 1, 2017 22:03

Ralith: Jan 12, 2011; I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today

Onward update fixes a few of the more glaring design flaws, but doesn't do anything about the horrific performance bugs. Tried to get back into it, but my session was plagued by people dropping to ~5FPS without warning and getting stuck on black screens. It's a shame; the new game mode looked interesting.

Meanwhile, it sounds like Pavlov's getting support for making custom maps in the UE4 editor and sharing them via the workshop soon!

# ? Apr 2, 2017 00:39

rage-saq: Mar 21, 2001; Thats so ninja...

Ralith posted:

Onward update fixes a few of the more glaring design flaws, but doesn't do anything about the horrific performance bugs. Tried to get back into it, but my session was plagued by people dropping to ~5FPS without warning and getting stuck on black screens. It's a shame; the new game mode looked interesting.

Meanwhile, it sounds like Pavlov's getting support for making custom maps in the UE4 editor and sharing them via the workshop soon!

We covered this to death in goon discord but many, many people play onward with 970s and 980s and get great performance.

# ? Apr 2, 2017 00:50

Lemming: Apr 21, 2008

rage-saq posted:

We covered this to death in goon discord but many, many people play onward with 970s and 980s and get great performance.

It worked fine for me on a 970 when using a Vive, but it was constantly crashing and black screening when I tried the same setup with a Rift. So the headset you have seems to make a difference there

# ? Apr 2, 2017 01:55

Ralith: Jan 12, 2011; I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today

Lemming posted:

It worked fine for me on a 970 when using a Vive, but it was constantly crashing and black screening when I tried the same setup with a Rift. So the headset you have seems to make a difference there

Vive and 970 here too, on minimum settings at that; it seems like it just randomly fails sometimes no matter what your setup is.

# ? Apr 2, 2017 02:25

8one6: May 20, 2012; When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

The first hour of Arizona Sunshine is pretty good. I turned on touchpad walking locomotion and it's not nearly as :barf:

as that sort of movement was a month ago.

# ? Apr 2, 2017 06:06

Oovee: Jun 21, 2007; No life king.

Played some Bazaaaar in Onward and boy is it a fun map, also the speed limit on run&gun is nice. I mean I still die to flanks but atlast I have a theoretical chance of killing em.

On the performance issues, my gtx 980 runs smoothly, but on the occasions I tried steamvr beta, even 1.2 supersampling would crater performance.

Well, 1080 Ti is only what 800-900Eur? :unsmigghh:

# ? Apr 2, 2017 09:11

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/palmer-luckey-joins-nintendo-for-revamped-launch-of_us_58dff1d3e4b0ca889ba1a667

quote:

Palmer Luckey Joins Nintendo for Revamped Launch of �Virtual Boy�

# ? Apr 2, 2017 14:23

SPACE HOMOS: Jan 12, 2005

I'm surprised there isn't a virtual boy emulator for VR headsets.

What the, I didn't read the post above and was watching AVGN's virtual boy video.

# ? Apr 2, 2017 17:57

emanresu tnuocca: Sep 2, 2011; by Athanatos

I'm surprised Virtual Boy isn't already Luckey's nickname.

# ? Apr 2, 2017 18:03

rage-saq: Mar 21, 2001; Thats so ninja...

Truga posted:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/palmer-luckey-joins-nintendo-for-revamped-launch-of_us_58dff1d3e4b0ca889ba1a667

This is a topical and funny 4/1 joke

# ? Apr 2, 2017 18:17

jonathan: Jul 3, 2005; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

rage-saq posted:

"Last Years Tech" that is still the only tier1 motion and location tracked VR+controller setup for probably the next 16-18 months.
VR without a vive wand or touch controller quality or much in the way of common VR software support is an experience on par with mobile VR.

Yeah I'm waiting for something consumer grade for the PC before I spend $1100 pair of goggles. $500 for the pimax is fine, but I'm waiting for some improvements.

# ? Apr 2, 2017 19:54

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

i moved and havent set my vive up yet

# ? Apr 2, 2017 21:24

Knifegrab: Jul 30, 2014; Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.

eonwe posted:

i moved and havent set my vive up yet

Well get to it god if you spent even half the effort you spent postin'...

# ? Apr 2, 2017 22:21

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Played more Narcosis last night, had a better time of it than I did when I first started playing. I play it like I'm in a mech suit and it feels a lot better immersion-wise. It's also really helping with my VR legs as well because the controls force you to move in very natural ways what with sitting down but it's an enjoyable experience.

# ? Apr 2, 2017 23:45

Revitalized: Sep 13, 2007; A free custom title is a free custom title; Lipstick Apathy

Zsinjeh posted:

Unknown side-effect of VR: Thanks to soundboxing and some really well made tracks I now LOVE Taylor Swift - Shake it Off and apparently a genre called 'Nightcore'

This is so true. I liked various edm genres but I was never a big fan of Nightcore. Then came Soundboxing.

Also these songs I thought I would never listen to end up having awesome beatmaps so now I can't stop listening.

# ? Apr 3, 2017 04:19

somethingawful bf: Jun 17, 2005

KakerMix posted:

Played more Narcosis last night, had a better time of it than I did when I first started playing. I play it like I'm in a mech suit and it feels a lot better immersion-wise. It's also really helping with my VR legs as well because the controls force you to move in very natural ways what with sitting down but it's an enjoyable experience.

There's some credit to give for seated games because they do help some people develop a tolerance to motion sickness.

# ? Apr 3, 2017 05:07

Zero VGS: Aug 16, 2002; ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE; Lipstick Apathy

SPACE HOMOS posted:

I'm surprised there isn't a virtual boy emulator for VR headsets.

They made one back in 2013, it was pretty much the first thing anyone did with DK1: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.engadget.com/amp/2013/04/27/oculus-rift-already-has-a-virtual-boy-emulator/

# ? Apr 3, 2017 06:30

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

rage-saq posted:

This is a topical and funny 4/1 joke

poo poo sorry, this got posted to me yesterday and I didn't check the date :cripes:

# ? Apr 3, 2017 08:35

iceaim: May 20, 2001

Zero VGS posted:

They made one back in 2013, it was pretty much the first thing anyone did with DK1: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.engadget.com/amp/2013/04/27/oculus-rift-already-has-a-virtual-boy-emulator/

Does it work with CV1 and thus the Vive via Revive?

# ? Apr 3, 2017 11:18

El Grillo: Jan 3, 2008; Fun Shoe

HL2VR is coming 'soon': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mREOUsan7pw
https://www.reddit.com/r/hlvr/comments/635q3i/the_new_mod_finally_coming/

# ? Apr 3, 2017 12:36

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# ? May 25, 2024 19:54

Fooz: Sep 26, 2010

Well 90 minutes of Onward was no fun. Pavlov was better but the recoil is bizarrely huge, these games force the two handed "grip" which just feels bad to me with my left hand just hovering out in front of me. I don't know why they force realistic gun reloads and make me pull pins off grenades and stuff either, it's just chores.

I just want an arcade MP shooter with the mechanical fun of SPT or RR instead of gun nut stuff. It would also be nice if it didn't look like crap.

# ? Apr 3, 2017 13:41

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