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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
It's good to know that all these Russian HAckers are what caused Hillary Clinton to lose the president contest to the Big Fat Ugly Idiot Rapist man, now we can return to talking about the best market-based solutions for ensuring no child of an consultant or lobbyist ever has to worry about attending a non-charter school.

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GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Not a Step posted:

despite having attacked all Sanders' supporters in retaliation.

Yeah but it is an admission they were wrong to do so. I mean thats some level of self reflection right? Improvement over what was before even if they are still posting things that are kind of dumb

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
I wonder what % of the Russia Berniebot people are actually just desperately trying to pivot and have an excuse for when they need to apply for jobs in the future but dont have an excuse for clueless out of touch neoliberal scum.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Ace of Baes posted:

It's good to know that all these Russian HAckers are what caused Hillary Clinton to lose the president contest to the Big Fat Ugly Idiot Rapist man, now we can return to talking about the best market-based solutions for ensuring no child of an consultant or lobbyist ever has to worry about attending a non-charter school.

If anything this new narrative casts Russia as the reason Sanders didnt win, and that without Russian interference he totally woulda

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Clinton people were definitely taking dudes named @BENGHAZILIES65 at their word as being Sanders supporters when they were calling them whatever racial/misogynistic slurs, because saying a Trump Supporter called you bad things is not nearly as many likes/RTs/views as saying a vicious sexist bernie bro attacked them.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

SKULL.GIF posted:

here's a rough draft of what Good Democrats should stand for

  • medicaid for all
  • minimum wage is set to a living wage and chained cpi
  • heavily roll back the drug war (at the very least legalize weed to significantly reduce amounts of lives destroyed over victimless crimes. severely reduce penalties for drug possession/consumption, and especially go through the legal code and eliminate e.g. racially-biased sentencing for crack)
  • bring back 1950s marginal and corporate tax rates
  • end citizens united
  • end manually-drawn districting (and therefore gerrymandering) -- move to algorithmatically-drawn districts created and modified by an independent committee instead of controlled by whatever party holds legislative power
  • do a thorough review of military spending and stop spending on MIC boondoggles like the F-35. Military spending is incredibly wasteful in part because of arcane annual budgetary requirements and because people are more excited about spending money on toys instead of R&D/intelligence/troops. Redirect the saved money over (it's gonna be a loving lot) into education / infrastructure / research / safety nets
  • overhaul immigration law and procedure. anyone who exhibits a good faith effort to join america and contribute to it should be welcomed, processed, integrated, and granted full citizenship within less than five years, ideally ~2-3
  • put white supremacist groups back on the terror watch list and institute a program to root out and eliminate white supremacists from ICE / the police
  • set up an independent oversight committee for the police and ensure that they are no longer able to excuse themselves from abuses of power and attacks on citizens

and some more stuff I could come up with if some democratic policy center felt like paying me money :effort:

I really do not think any of this is really that controversial even to centrist dems. It's not even really socialist. Sure, it's going to be hard and expensive to implement, but gently caress that, we're Americans, we do things not because they are easy, but because they are hard. or at least we used to.

every single item on this list can be boiled down to a simple message: "Making life better and fairer for American citizens."

These are all good, though keep in mind that ending Citizens United (and anti-gerrymandering I think) would require constitutional amendments and therefore probably not something to hang your hat on in 2018

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

I for one never thought the Bernie posters were bots, it's impossible for even the most advanced algorithms to be that salty.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Look at all these caremads buttsalting because theyre going to lose their health insurance or jobs LOL.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

SKULL.GIF posted:

here's a rough draft of what Good Democrats should stand for

  • medicaid for all
  • minimum wage is set to a living wage and chained cpi
  • heavily roll back the drug war (at the very least legalize weed to significantly reduce amounts of lives destroyed over victimless crimes. severely reduce penalties for drug possession/consumption, and especially go through the legal code and eliminate e.g. racially-biased sentencing for crack)
  • bring back 1950s marginal and corporate tax rates
  • end citizens united
  • end manually-drawn districting (and therefore gerrymandering) -- move to algorithmatically-drawn districts created and modified by an independent committee instead of controlled by whatever party holds legislative power
  • do a thorough review of military spending and stop spending on MIC boondoggles like the F-35. Military spending is incredibly wasteful in part because of arcane annual budgetary requirements and because people are more excited about spending money on toys instead of R&D/intelligence/troops. Redirect the saved money over (it's gonna be a loving lot) into education / infrastructure / research / safety nets
  • overhaul immigration law and procedure. anyone who exhibits a good faith effort to join america and contribute to it should be welcomed, processed, integrated, and granted full citizenship within less than five years, ideally ~2-3
  • put white supremacist groups back on the terror watch list and institute a program to root out and eliminate white supremacists from ICE / the police
  • set up an independent oversight committee for the police and ensure that they are no longer able to excuse themselves from abuses of power and attacks on citizens

and some more stuff I could come up with if some democratic policy center felt like paying me money :effort:

I really do not think any of this is really that controversial even to centrist dems. It's not even really socialist. Sure, it's going to be hard and expensive to implement, but gently caress that, we're Americans, we do things not because they are easy, but because they are hard. or at least we used to.

every single item on this list can be boiled down to a simpl message: "Making life better and fairer for American citizens."

Not a bad starting list at all

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
None of the Hillary Supporters are salty about the losing the election, only when Bernie Sanders is brought up.

Why?

Because they know they'll be perfectly fine regardless of if Trump, Clinton, or even Sanders won. But Sanders represents a faction of people who tell them they're wrong, and that capitalism is wrong, when they normally hear stuff they don't like from Republicans they can point out how racist/sexist GOP policies are, it's the only defense they know.

A combination of guilt about their privilege and basic tribalism, throw in some psuedo-intellectualism and condescension towards "hopeless idealism", and you have a recipe for the some of the worst, most unbearably smug yet simultaneously clueless people possible, Hillarymen.

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
hey, it's not the berniebros' fault that dread abuela kept out of the rust belt.


or flushed as much money down the shitter on los angeles ad buys.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

hey, it's not the berniebros' fault that dread abuela kept out of the rust belt.


look you can't expect hillary to want to touch anything won by bernie

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Ace of Baes posted:

None of the Hillary Supporters are salty about the losing the election, only when Bernie Sanders is brought up.

Why?

Because they know they'll be perfectly fine regardless of if Trump, Clinton, or even Sanders won. But Sanders represents a faction of people who tell them they're wrong, and that capitalism is wrong, when they normally hear stuff they don't like from Republicans they can point out how racist/sexist GOP policies are, it's the only defense they know.

A combination of guilt about their privilege and basic tribalism, throw in some psuedo-intellectualism and condescension towards "hopeless idealism", and you have a recipe for the some of the worst, most unbearably smug yet simultaneously clueless people possible, Hillarymen.

OK dude you convinced me, you're mad at Hillary Clinton.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Fallen Hamprince posted:

OK dude you convinced me, you're mad at Hillary Clinton.

I am, you should be too.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/848589219815727104

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
https://twitter.com/DualGrey/status/797148341129932800

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
the more the Dems make a case for a Russian connection the worse Hillary looks for having lost to such a completely compromised shitshow of a candidate like Trump. like they don't realize that the worse Trump looks, the worse Hillary looks. Even in death they cannot stop self owning.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
imo not every good dem needs to stand for all of those, but every single good dem should at least stand for most of those.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Not a Step posted:

Because it feels like another attempt to pin the whole thing on Russia rather than do any self-critical examination. And it also feels like justifying all the lovely things Clinton surrogates have said about Sanders' supporters by claiming they were only mad at the Russian bots, despite having attacked all Sanders' supporters in retaliation.

the bigger thing is positing the notion that there were only a handful of actual sanders supporters and that the left makes up a tiny insignificant fraction of the party/the overall electorate and thus can be safely ignored

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

The Muppets On PCP posted:

the bigger thing is positing the notion that there were only a handful of actual sanders supporters and that the left makes up a tiny insignificant fraction of the party/the overall electorate and thus can be safely ignored

which is insane because a shitload of people voted for him in the primary even with the prohibitive rules in many states.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

anime was right posted:

which is insane because a shitload of people voted for him in the primary even with the prohibitive rules in many states.

well look who we're talking about here

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
bernie sanders received almost the same amount of primary votes as donald trump, and more than any other republican got in their primary.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010
a third Dem senator has said they'll vote for Gorsuch

Joe Donnelly of Indiana is the new addition to the poo poo idiot list

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


GlyphGryph posted:

Yeah but it is an admission they were wrong to do so. I mean thats some level of self reflection right? Improvement over what was before even if they are still posting things that are kind of dumb

she then goes on to say that bernie supporters are still racist and sexist later in the article

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod



https://twitter.com/AmyHarber/status/797185756284366848

:lol:

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

The wardrobe line tweet is so good because it exposes the fact that the tweeter thinks that a wardrobe line is a normal thing for someone to have. Bourgeois scum.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


wish i could get paid to shitpost4bernie

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Ace of Baes posted:

Look at all these caremads buttsalting because theyre going to lose their health insurance or jobs LOL.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010




uggghhhhhhh

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



To really be a female role model you have to have perfect hair and a zillion dollar size zero wardrobe.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
For the record I don't think it's bad that WhiskeyJuvenile has a maid, I just think it's funny given his history and was made even funnier when he said hiring maids is something poor people can do, like eating out.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
i think it's funny that he's only got 5 people in his house yet cleaning it requires the same amount of person hours as a 7+ bedroom multifamily beach rental

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

The Muppets On PCP posted:

i think it's funny that he's only got 5 people in his house yet cleaning it requires the same amount of person hours as a 7+ bedroom multifamily beach rental

if two of them are toddlers that is probably reasonable

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
once again this is the dumbest loving argument lol

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

anime was right posted:

once again this is the dumbest loving argument lol

it's one of those things where the more information is provided the funnier it becomes

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Concerned Citizen posted:

if two of them are toddlers that is probably reasonable

No it isnt.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Having a maid is not normal.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Ace of Baes posted:

No it isnt.

8 hours of cleaning a week with 2 toddlers, a senile old woman, 2 dogs, and 2 people who work between 8-12 hours a day in a household of indeterminate size doesn't seem that outrageous to me. i'd think that's probably about the right amount of cleaning, give or take

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Concerned Citizen posted:

8 hours of cleaning a week with 2 toddlers, a senile old woman, 2 dogs, and 2 people who work between 8-12 hours a day in a household of indeterminate size doesn't seem that outrageous to me. i'd think that's probably about the right amount of cleaning, give or take

Those kids are hosed lol

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Sylink
Apr 17, 2004

Concerned Citizen posted:

8 hours of cleaning a week with 2 toddlers, a senile old woman, 2 dogs, and 2 people who work between 8-12 hours a day in a household of indeterminate size doesn't seem that outrageous to me. i'd think that's probably about the right amount of cleaning, give or take

It mostly means you've decided to not spend time with your family. Its not worth it.

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