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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

I vote simplefish because the bombing happens after the MSF plane takes off, reducing the risk of enemy fighters being scrambled to retaliate while the cargo plane is taking off.

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Stago Lego
Sep 3, 2011
Though I find both plans rather fishy due to the exclusion of the SK60's, I think i'll suport plan Barracuda.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
I support plan Bacarruda!

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Plan simplefish

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8GCzeQTJsg

I don't think this changes our mission at all, just some facts to be aware of. He must be sleeping in as I don't have any more details on the aircraft. All he sent was a bunch of drunk texts.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


I just want to say I love that the characters exist outside of forums posts, it (especially the voice acted bits) makes the LP really unique.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

gradenko_2000 posted:

Plan simplefish

koolkevz666
Aug 22, 2015
Also adding my support for Plan simplefish

Tetraptous
Nov 11, 2004

Dynamic instability during transition.
That is fantastic!

Anyway, I'm also voting for simplefish's Plan P.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
The production values of this LP are majestic

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

gradenko_2000 posted:

The production values of this LP are majestic

Bacarruda
Mar 30, 2011

Mutiny!?! More like "reinterpreted orders"
If there are Su-27s in the area, what do the goons think about upgunning our High CAP Gripens with x2 IRIS-T short-range AAMs and x2 RB107 Meteors mid-range AAMs?

We could then set (and enforce) a 50-100km exclusion zone around the transport aircraft. We contact any bogey aircraft and warn them off if they approach the zone. Simultaneously, we vector the High CAP aircraft towards the bogeys. If the bogeys enter the exclusion zone, then we could fire on them with our Meteor missiles.

80km is the range of the R-77 Amraamski medium-range air-to-air missile carried by most Su-27/J-11 variants, so they could pop up, snipe a transport (or one of our fighters) and dash off before we're in visual range to engage with our shorter-range missile.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


I don't think we'd have the range on the Gripens to fly there and back with both Meteors and IRIS: I'd just upgrade to 2x Meteors loadout only: they are modern missiles, two should easily be enough to enforce the corden.

EDIT: sounds like Jack has found us some militarised versions of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Hawk ? The Indians do make them under license, which helps.

Nothingtoseehere fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Apr 3, 2017

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Ooh is Drunk Jack getting his mitts on Frogfoots and BAE Hawks? Me likey

I also want to echo that the production efforts you're making are really making a huge difference Yooper, thanks for that

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I don't want to muddy the waters by changing plans after we've had two pretty solid ones and people are voting, but...
What about a compromise?

Some people said they would have preferred that my plan incorporated a second escort, like Bacarruda's does.
I personally like his idea of a High CAP, but I prefer my strike part of the plan.
In some ways, air patrol is what the bomber Gripens will be doing when they loiter serving rearguard and waiting for the MSF to return home, in my plan. But armed with heaters, they may not be the best at Air to Air.
It's also what the Air-to-Air Gripen would be doing once the MSF transports have landed, around what I called Point Eel.
So it's not like my plan lacks it in its entirety.

But since people generally seem to want a 4th bird in the air with A2A loadout, as the reason for not liking my plan, and since my plan and Bacarruda's plans aren't wildly different - the main one being CAP - I think I have an idea.

The compromise I'd suggest would be to add a 4th plane, with the longest range A2A that we can muster (seems like Meteors unless I'm mistaken) to serve as what Bac said for CAP, while running the rest of the planes (close escort of transports and strike part) to my plan.

Now, I don't know if that will interest you, Bacarruda. Your plan is ahead so if you think the compromise would still not work as well as your original plan, you have zero reason to change.

For reference, I went and counted:
Plan Simplefish has 7 votes
Plan Bacarruda has 14 votes

I don't know what the deadline is for us getting a plan set in stone. Yooper, any thoughts on when you might run it?


nothing to seehere posted:

I don't think we'd have the range on the Gripens to fly there and back with both Meteors and IRIS: I'd just upgrade to 2x Meteors loadout only: they are modern missiles, two should easily be enough to enforce the corden.

EDIT: sounds like Jack has found us some militarised versions of https://en. wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Hawk ? The Indians do make them under license, which helps.
Also if a full Air-to-air was on high patrol and not going the whole mission route, fuel would probably matter a bit less so it might be able to have the big loadout, while keeping a close escort close to the transports enroute with maybe a lesser load. I really don't know though what we can and can't carry with what sort of fuel. That might well be a choice we don't have to make.

simplefish fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Apr 3, 2017

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


simplefish posted:

For reference, I went and counted:
Plan Simplefish has 7 votes
Plan Bacarruda has 14 votes

I don't know what the deadline is for us getting a plan set in stone. Yooper, any thoughts on when you might run it?


Pretty much once we have a majority. The votes are tightening up so I'll let it run a bit longer. Or until a new plan is settled on. The scenarios go together really quick.

ManifunkDestiny
Aug 2, 2005
THE ONLY THING BETTER THAN THE SEAHAWKS IS RUSSELL WILSON'S TAINT SWEAT

Seahawks #1 fan since 2014.
I like plan Barracuda, though with new intel I'd suggest having the remaining 2 Gripens loaded out with Meteors and either sit on the runway on alert or be on the wings of the transports

VKing
Apr 22, 2008
I love the way this LP is shaping up. I can't wait to see how the scenario plays out and how everything progresses from there.

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

I already voted, I just want to add my own "This LP is awesome already, please keep it up" comment to the pile.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012






It seems I didn't read the fine print. Jack sent me a picture of the bar tab. That we are contractually obligated to pay.

On the plus side he sent a list of surplus aircraft available for purchase. More to come after this mission.

OOC

Glad everyone is enjoying it, I am too! I have to thank my good friend Fiverr.com...

VKing
Apr 22, 2008
I forgot to vote!

I'm in with plan Barracuda.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Looks like Jack was paying for the entire bars drinks last night. For a line on cheap jets though, that's a price worth paying.

Also yea, great job with the LP production values so far.

Soup Inspector
Jun 5, 2013
I'm going to chip in with the compliments - it's seriously impressive to me the amount of care and effort that's gone into this!

Also going to support Bacarruda's plan. Although I'm slightly disappointed by the fact that none of our SK60s are coming out to play, the idea of (potentially) getting some new toys to play with helps soften the blow - particularly since the SK60s aren't the most well protected aircraft around.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

nothing to seehere posted:

Looks like Jack was paying for the entire bars drinks last night. For a line on cheap jets though, that's a price worth paying.

Also yea, great job with the LP production values so far.

Seconded! The jets are still on the ground and I'm super excited.

Also, just how much alcohol is that, and is that Jack's "downside"? His contacts and contracts require a lot of wining and dining?

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Davin Valkri posted:

Seconded! The jets are still on the ground and I'm super excited.

Also, just how much alcohol is that, and is that Jack's "downside"? His contacts and contracts require a lot of wining and dining?

His blood stream is either pure ethanol at this point, or he was buying the entire bar's drinks all night.

Either way, yeah I think that's his downside. Well, that and being a sleazy lobbyist who might make some promises we didn't expect him to or get caught up in a scandal.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Another vote for Plan Barracuda

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Yooper posted:





It seems I didn't read the fine print. Jack sent me a picture of the bar tab. That we are contractually obligated to pay.

On the plus side he sent a list of surplus aircraft available for purchase. More to come after this mission.

OOC

Glad everyone is enjoying it, I am too! I have to thank my good friend Fiverr.com...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehaX4Z12HXo

Stago Lego
Sep 3, 2011
This is what makes the thread awesome!
I wonder what other crazy stuff you have in waiting for us!

Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat
That Abramoff is a real piece of poo poo work. 142 nips of vodka. I hope he's recycling the bottles at least but knowing him he's probably just leaving the plastic ones around his hotel room and smashing the glass ones on the sidewalk.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

Crazycryodude posted:

His blood stream is either pure ethanol at this point, or he was buying the entire bar's drinks all night.

Either way, yeah I think that's his downside. Well, that and being a sleazy lobbyist who might make some promises we didn't expect him to or get caught up in a scandal.

Honestly all three of the options had some kind of caveat that would make them "make bad promises or get arrested earlier". Imagine we picked Jimmy and he decided to invite all his friends to harass "help" the ground crew.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Davin Valkri posted:

Honestly all three of the options had some kind of caveat that would make them "make bad promises or get arrested earlier". Imagine we picked Jimmy and he decided to invite all his friends to harass "help" the ground crew.

Something bad would've happened with any of the choices. Well, something bad will happen with Our Man in Washington. Just a question of when...

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
He's going to get arrested. Insider trading or a DUI, either seems likely at this point.

Good Dumplings
Mar 30, 2011

Excuse my worthless shitposting because all I can ever hope to accomplish in life is to rot away the braincells of strangers on the internet with my irredeemable brainworms.
But like the "white-collar resort" kind of arrested, right? It's probably okay. I wonder what Zach's up to, he's conspicuously not in any of the news :tinfoil:

ManifunkDestiny
Aug 2, 2005
THE ONLY THING BETTER THAN THE SEAHAWKS IS RUSSELL WILSON'S TAINT SWEAT

Seahawks #1 fan since 2014.

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

He's going to get arrested. Insider trading or a DUI, either seems likely at this point.

So you're saying we need to procure a helicopter to facilitate a jailbreak then

Unimpressed
Feb 13, 2013

Is Jack real? Is he baloogan???

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Unimpressed posted:

Is Jack real? Is he baloogan???

I can't tell if you are joking, but yes, Jack Abramoff is a real lobbyist who went to prison for corruption: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Abramoff

Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

He's going to get arrested. Insider trading or a DUI, either seems likely at this point.

Maybe both at once!

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Unimpressed posted:

Is Jack real? Is he baloogan???

Jack, Our Man in Washington, is not to be confused with the real Mr. Abramoff. Ours has only a single F in his name. This has been clarified to prevent any, erm, libel charges from being filed.

My Lawyer posted:

The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this production are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.

No animals were harmed in the making of this motion picture.

quote:

Any resemblance to persons living or dead should be plainly apparent to them and those who know them, especially if the internet has been kind enough to have provided their real names and, in some cases, their phone numbers. All events described herein may actually happen, though on occasion the OP has taken certain, very small, liberties with chronology, because that is his right as an American.

Unimpressed
Feb 13, 2013

pthighs posted:

I can't tell if you are joking, but yes, Jack Abramoff is a real lobbyist who went to prison for corruption: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Abramoff

No I didn't know about the real guy, but I was joking, in reference to baloogan, the cmano dev who is always getting probation for drunk posting. The resemblance is uncanny.

Serpentis
May 31, 2011

Well, if I really HAVE to shoot you in the bollocks to shut you up, then I guess I'll need to, post-haste, for everyone else's sake.
Well, finally caught up. It's telling that you've gotten this much investment before the first jet takes off, Yooper, job well done :) (are you still taking reserve pilots?)

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Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Serpentis posted:

Well, finally caught up. It's telling that you've gotten this much investment before the first jet takes off, Yooper, job well done :) (are you still taking reserve pilots?)

Yes. I've added your name to the list. As we lose jets, or acquire more, I'll cycle through the list.

Our investors have the greatest confidence in our ability to beat the 2019-2023 market average of -17%.

Success is always possible if your set the bar low enough.

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