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They also fixed up the CG a little bit (that they already did just for the Quadrilogy release) for the scene where the alien is born and runs off. Such an awesome job restoring the movie pretty much as great as it can be with what was available. Just as important, the making of documentary is uncut on the blu-ray. When the Quadrilogy first came out on DVD it was heavily edited and even had the title changed so that David Fincher basically barely exists in it and stuff portraying Fox in a more negative light was removed. But all of that is present on the blu-ray version. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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Neo Rasa posted:They also fixed up the CG a little bit (that they already did just for the Quadrilogy release) for the scene where the alien is born and runs off. No more good boy Alien? 
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Mar 31, 2017 16:49
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The_Doctor posted:No more good boy Alien? I really like that for a minute the production department was so lost and non-communicative that somehow it got okayed through multiple people that they would, like, dress up a dog... like, like The Killer Shrews or something.
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There's a campy but totally rad Canadian horror flick called Deadly Eyes about giant rats. It's basically the exact same movie as Night of the Lepus but about rats instead of rabbits (amusingly even the title recalls that, upon realizing how dumb as dogshit Night of the Lepus is, the posters and marketing were all based around tons of eyeballs and the eyes of terror and stuff). Anyway the giant rats were accomplished by dressing up a bunch of dogs, and it's awesome because there's tons of shots where like they must have forgotten to dress one up or the outfit didn't stay on because you just see a couple of happy dogs running with the pack. And of course there's the obligatory hand puppet for close up shots. I mean obviously that's a totally different galaxy from the production of Alien 3 but I will always love that this way higher profile movie came to the same conclusion. I love when they talk about it in the documentary too because everyone is so frank about everything regarding what a pain in the rear end creating Alien 3 turned out to be, EXCEPT when it comes to the dog no one wants to own up to it. The people speaking about it all do so along the lines of "Well yeah uh sometimes uh OTHER people have certain ideas and uhm uh you know you get excited about trying things er of course I knew from the beginning it wouldn't work of course."
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Neo Rasa posted:Anyway the giant rats were accomplished by dressing up a bunch of dogs, and it's awesome because there's tons of shots where like they must have forgotten to dress one up or the outfit didn't stay on because you just see a couple of happy dogs running with the pack. And of course there's the obligatory hand puppet for close up shots. I imagine the costumes couldn't possibly stay on 100% of the time so in any scene featuring a bunch of running dogs at least one or two of them would shake their costumes. Good luck getting one single dog to keep an uncomfortable costume on, let alone a whole pack .
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Neo Rasa posted:There's a campy but totally rad Canadian horror flick called Deadly Eyes about giant rats. It's basically the exact same movie as Night of the Lepus but about rats instead of rabbits (amusingly even the title recalls that, upon realizing how dumb as dogshit Night of the Lepus is, the posters and marketing were all based around tons of eyeballs and the eyes of terror and stuff). Hahaha. Knowing those are dogs, I couldn't stop laughing through this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVT31kxL7yw
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Spatulater bro! posted:Hahaha. Knowing those are dogs, I couldn't stop laughing through this: Rehearsals were so tough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGE39IsemFw
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Spatulater bro! posted:Hahaha. Knowing those are dogs, I couldn't stop laughing through this: The end where they jump on him becomes very adorable, they are just excited to give the nice man kisses 
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Those are just really smart dogs. They know the giant rats will eat them otherwise so they pretend to be part of the swarm.K. Waste posted:I really like that for a minute the production department was so lost and non-communicative that somehow it got okayed through multiple people that they would, like, dress up a dog... like, like The Killer Shrews or something. Yoda was originally supposed to be a real monkey.
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Did they get to the point of doing tests with a real monkey? Is the monkey still in the pre-Special Editions of ESB via being the Emperor's eyes for the hologram effect?
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K. Waste posted:I really like that for a minute the production department was so lost and non-communicative that somehow it got okayed through multiple people that they would, like, dress up a dog... like, like The Killer Shrews or something. Its not like movies never do that. Stargate dressed up a dog to look like an alien camel/horse thing and had it pull a James Spader looking GI Joe for a scene.
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Alien 3 is easily my favorite installment in the series. The Weyland-Yutani prisoners finding redemption and a final sense of purpose in themselves by trying to kill the Alien in a futile scenario before their owners (the company) could get it was totally my poo poo. That prison environment was so, so foreboding as well. It was also the first Alien movie I saw as a kid.
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A scene from Covenant was screened and it shows what happened to David after Prometheus. He uses the Engineer ship to bombard a planet of alien humanoids with black goo. He is also apparently reattached to his body, and Shaw is nowhere in sight.
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The MSJ posted:A scene from Covenant was screened and it shows what happened to David after Prometheus. He uses the Engineer ship to bombard a planet of alien humanoids with black goo. He is also apparently reattached to his body, and Shaw is nowhere in sight. Another scene from the synopsis leaked ages ago confirmed then.
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Alienwarehouse posted:Alien 3 is easily my favorite installment in the series. i'm sorry.
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The assembly cut is extremely good, though?
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:The assembly cut is extremely good, though? One might say it's loving awesome.
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The MSJ posted:A scene from Covenant was screened and it shows what happened to David after Prometheus. He uses the Engineer ship to bombard a planet of alien humanoids with black goo. He is also apparently reattached to his body, and Shaw is nowhere in sight. Doesn't sound that bad, wish we got to see Shaw get killed off though.
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Tenzarin posted:Doesn't sound that bad, wish we got to see Shaw get killed off though. That's in the leaked outline, just absent in this single screened scene, presumably. They didn't screen the whole movie.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS6vlww_sFE Kane's Cloned Xenomorph explained!
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Alienwarehouse posted:
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What I don't get about this new one and Prometheus; In Alien, when they're nosing around the derelict, isn't there a line of dialogue, from either Hurt or Skerritt, about how it's millions of years old or something?
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Apr 3, 2017 10:28
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In Prometheus, they found a mural depicting a xenomorph in the black goo room.
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BeigeJacket posted:What I don't get about this new one and Prometheus; is alien 1 even canon anymore
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Is a trucker saying "this must be millions of years old" that reliable? That said, it could be. The black goo has clearly resulted in classic xenos before. And even if it is a more recent crash, the ship itself would be millions of years old.
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BeigeJacket posted:What I don't get about this new one and Prometheus; Dallas says it looks "fossilized".
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Xenomrph posted:Dallas says it looks "fossilized". Well then, a trucker's assessment of a weird biomechanical exosuit. Doesn't really put a solid date on things.
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BeigeJacket posted:What I don't get about this new one and Prometheus; The Engineers have potentially been doing these experiments(if that's even an appropriate word to use for what they're doing) for millions of years, there's nothing in Prometheus that contradicts that. The station that they find in Prometheus has had activity as recently as a few thousand years ago, but that doesn't mean the derelict on LV-426 couldn't be much much older than that.
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The derelict in alien has nothing to do with Prometheus or the engineers because it's way older and the pilot is clearly a proper alien not just a big human. The boring rear end startrek "humans but a bit different" aliens from Prometheus probably just stole this much more ancient and mysterious race's technology and their version of WY managed to weaponize the alien properly. If WY had managed to get the alien in the first movie humans would probably be the engineers within a century or so.
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Even as early as the commentary track on the 1997 DVD of Alien Scott has said he always envisioned it as a bio-mechanical suit attached to a more humanoid person. And I think Prometheus did a good job with that. The Engineer we see in the intro is basically a big human but the one that's awakened at the end clearly as a much of bio-mechanical/whatever details and bits on him that are clearly part of his body and meant for the suit to attach to. He actually toyed with that a bit in Blade Runner too. The small tattoos on Roy's chest are meant to be the points where a powered armor suit would plug in and link with his body for battling in deep space.
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Baronjutter posted:The derelict in alien has nothing to do with Prometheus or the engineers because it's way older and the pilot is clearly a proper alien not just a big human. The boring rear end startrek "humans but a bit different" aliens from Prometheus probably just stole this much more ancient and mysterious race's technology and their version of WY managed to weaponize the alien properly. If WY had managed to get the alien in the first movie humans would probably be the engineers within a century or so. That's one theory but its not necessary for Prometheus to fit in just fine with what we see in Alien. I don't agree that the Space Jockey is "clearly" not an Engineer, there's nothing definitive in that scene at all(which is what makes it so perfect). You find the Engineers in Prometheus to be boring, so you can concoct a scenario where the Space Jockey scene doesn't actually involve them if you want, but that's just one of many possibilities. Also, obligatory mention of how the "humans but a bit different" thing from Prometheus is purposely designed to be anti-climactic. Its exactly what the characters are feeling, "oh wait, we were actually just created by some shithead scientists who were loving around with our DNA for no discernible reason?" Would it really have been a better movie if the Engineers had elephant trunks?
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Basebf555 posted:That's one theory but its not necessary for Prometheus to fit in just fine with what we see in Alien. I don't agree that the Space Jockey is "clearly" not an Engineer, there's nothing definitive in that scene at all(which is what makes it so perfect). You find the Engineers in Prometheus to be boring, so you can concoct a scenario where the Space Jockey scene doesn't actually involve them if you want, but that's just one of many possibilities. This is made explicit in David's conversation with Shaw's husband. David asks why humans created him and is told "because we could." He then states how disappointing it would be if the Prometheus crew found what they were looking for and got the same answer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtGFAfJm45s SimonCat fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Apr 3, 2017 |
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Also made explicit when they find an intact head of their god and the first thing they do is put it in a microwave.
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Basebf555 posted:That's one theory but its not necessary for Prometheus to fit in just fine with what we see in Alien. I don't agree that the Space Jockey is "clearly" not an Engineer, there's nothing definitive in that scene at all(which is what makes it so perfect). You find the Engineers in Prometheus to be boring, so you can concoct a scenario where the Space Jockey scene doesn't actually involve them if you want, but that's just one of many possibilities. In my own head-canon the concept that they are distinct races is kind of appealing but I'm also perfectly content with the two movies not matching up perfectly.
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Neo Rasa posted:Also made explicit when they find an intact head of their god and the first thing they do is put it in a microwave. I love that scene
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i both think the engineers look cool as their own thing and also think they're lame as the space jockey. it's just one of those things better left to the imagination.
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People mining Prometheus, a movie about how those who expect clear answers will meet horrible deaths, in the hope of finding clear answers will never be not funny.
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's just one of those things better left to the imagination. that's where the best horror is
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I hope a living Engineer makes a cameo in this.
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