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Kuvo posted:had to research a bug a few months back where a user was entering a records into our system and it was making GBS threads the bed. turns out "Foo(Bar)" is not the same as "Foo❲Bar❳" and VB6 is awful People might think "who the hell types random unicode characters into their stuff?" but if you copy paste content from word documents or pdfs this poo poo happens all the time, and people use stuff like word to spell check their stuff more than you'd expect so this poo poo ends up all over the place.
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Chalks posted:For example, unicode contains things like a variety of different widths of whitespace characters. I recently discovered that if you send a message containing normal spaces via Skype for Business, it will convert them to some sort of unicode space. Someone sends you a powershell snippet or a hosts file line, lol, have fun running in circles for a while until you realise what happened. this poo poo happens to me all the time but with different lengths of hyphen/en-dash
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:this poo poo happens to me all the time but with different lengths of hyphen/en-dash Urgh, and quotation marks. loving microsoft and their obsession with auto correcting “curly loving quotation marks”.
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Shaggar posted:well I think the url would be presented as Unicode in the client so it wouldn't look fishy except for the font differences. but then you could probably find a similar font and make it all fit. 🇸🇴🇲🇪🇹🇭🇮🇳🇬🇦🇼🇫🇺🇱.com
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Chalks posted:Urgh, and quotation marks. loving microsoft and their obsession with auto correcting “curly loving quotation marks”. gently caress whoever at microsoft decided this was a needed “feature”
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Apr 4, 2017 00:25
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OSI bean dip posted:xn--e77hhaecegybmf7bpt0a.com also lol
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i had to install a font that specialized in wide unicode support to render the text properly the good news is that with ~120k glyphs it's impossible to have a single otf render everything
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Apr 4, 2017 00:27
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to be fair, .com won't allow for those domains
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less gaudy version:
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Kuvo posted:gently caress whoever at microsoft decided this was a needed “feature”
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Apr 4, 2017 00:37
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anthonypants posted:gently caress whoever at microsoft thinks "paste as plain text" needs to be hidden in as many right-click submenus as possible It's not just MS. I ended up using a clipboard manager on my Mac just so I can default all cut and paste of text to be plain-text. In the rare case I need to preserve formatting, I can override my default setting on it. Although now that I think about it, it mostly is an issue when copying text from an MS Office document.
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anthonypants posted:gently caress whoever at microsoft thinks "paste as plain text" needs to be hidden in as many right-click submenus as possible seconded, i paste a lot of stuff into excel and i hope whoever decided that the default option should be copying all the formatting (and not having a plain text shortcut) stubs their toe everyday re: unicode domains, not that regex ever solves anything, but why isn't icann or whoever doing a check for visually similar characters? i mean i don't get why anyone should be able to buy googlé.com or googl𝗲.com and gently caress them if they think the proper mitigation is buying thousands of domains
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surebet posted:i hope whoever decided that the default option should be copying all the formatting (and not having a plain text shortcut) stubs their toe everyday Too lenient. I hope when getting up in the middle of night to go to the bathroom they step on a Lego while barefoot in the dark. Yes, I am that monstrous.
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EDIT: loving quote is not edit
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flosofl posted:Too lenient. I hope when getting up in the middle of night to go to the bathroom they step on a Lego while barefoot in the dark. I hope they end up in an internet argument about babies vs dogs
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Not sure if it works on versions of Windows newer than 7 but PureText is a godsend for this kind of bullshit.
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Volmarias posted:Not sure if it works on versions of Windows newer than 7 but PureText is a godsend for this kind of bullshit. neat, i'll try it out, although i'm a bit concerned about stripping out tables and positional formatting
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OSI bean dip posted:to be fair, .com won't allow for those domains 
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Volmarias posted:Not sure if it works on versions of Windows newer than 7 but PureText is a godsend for this kind of bullshit. this is cool but my muscle memory is already trained to fire up notepad and paste in there to remove formatting.
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Volmarias posted:Not sure if it works on versions of Windows newer than 7 but PureText is a godsend for this kind of bullshit. Plain Clip is a pretty good alternative for those on macOS.
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Shaggar posted:this is cool but my muscle memory is already trained to fire up notepad and paste in there to remove formatting. ok, but you could also just press ctrl-shift-v or whatever the shortcut maps to.
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Shaggar posted:this is cool but my muscle memory is already trained to fire up notepad and paste in there to remove formatting.  how many notepads have you had open at once
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Volmarias posted:ok, but you could also just press ctrl-shift-v or whatever the shortcut maps to. too weird to get used to at this point. mod saas posted:
so many. but I also use notepad for storing notes
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Shaggar posted:so many. but I also use notepad for storing notes 
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i use notepad++ so the CIA has a backup copy of my notes but i guess their copy is out of date now
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I use sublime 
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Volmarias posted:ok, but you could also just press ctrl-shift-v or whatever the shortcut maps to.
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anthonypants posted:like i said before, this isn't the case in microsoft applications because they are hidden in context menus Unless they've overridden it somehow, that shouldn't matter for the hotkey you set for PureText.
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Volmarias posted:Unless they've overridden it somehow, that shouldn't matter for the hotkey you set for PureText.
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microsoft always has applications that are super good but you had to go around digging on technet to find them
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for example vchat
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gently caress slack let's all use that
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before any of you waste time trying i have been unable to get ms comic chat running under wine
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if comic chat supported ssl i'd legit be using it daily
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Shaggar posted:some of those characters are required for the display of certain non-English languages. that makes them worthless characters that shouldn't exist for sure, but apparently foreigners like to pretend they don't all just speak English One day America's reckoning will come and you'll be first against the wall, shags. 
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spankmeister posted:One day America's reckoning will come and you'll be first against the wall, shags. ive already signed up to be in the android 81st bicycle division
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you know on osx you can change the paste on specific applications to be paste without formatting right keyboard shortcuts add terminal.app Copy Plain Text mackey c repeat for whatever
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using notepad to sanitize copy pastes isn't the worst idea in the world I do it all of the time because lol ebcdic
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i ran across an interesting bit of trivia today. a long time ago - at least 15 years - i worked at a small isp. it, like many, provided small-time webhosting and some cgis like counters and most importantly the mailform. like all mailforms, eventually it got discovered and used to post spam, so I restricted the addresses it could mail to to the customers who were actually using it, and the spam stopped. but I kept logs of attempts to use it. one day a new contender appeared: a yahoo.com login phishing website, using our mailform and attempting to send to someone else, which was of course rejected. the surprising part is that they never bothered using a different mailform that was unsecured. a year later, I noticed i was still getting hits, so i detected the source domain and put up a big bright red "HI YOU GAVE AWAY YOUR LOGIN AND PASSWORD TO SCAMMERS. GO TO THE REAL YAHOO AND CHANGE IT NOW." ... today i found out it's still getting 2-3 users a day attempting to login from the same damned scam website, hosted on a freewebhost in romaina. The phishing page isn't updated, doesn't have yahoo in the URL anywhere. did I mention not updated? because it's a time capsule to late-90s yahoo login page. 2-3 people a day for 15 years. That's not even the best part. Logs show a significant number of them get the bright red warning message, hit back and type in their username and password again and submit again. id ask how the gently caress are users so monumentally stupid but i did tier1 tech support so i already know. relatedly, is there a way to get link metrics for a website you don't own? I really want to know how people are stumbling over this obscure webpage 15 years later.
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https://ictf.cs.ucsb.edu/pages/the-2016-2017-ictf-ddos.html tl;dr LC/BC (Russian CTF team) gets caught cheating and disqualified. Good write-up of the forensics involved in catching them.
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