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this show is dumb as gently caress and so was fargo.
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Mr. Unlucky posted:this show is dumb as gently caress and so was fargo. Cool! Thanks for dropping by!
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Apr 3, 2017 10:32
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drat, this was good. So glad it's getting a second season.
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flosofl posted:Yeah, that what's that whole "have you ever tried to unmake soup?" comment SK made to Syd. He planted the seed that if they tried to force SK out of David both of them would die. Syd was absolutely convinced that David was going to die and no one was listening to her. otoh, Oliver himself is implied to be pretty powerful, and on top of that a genius. maybe SK finds him to be a better host?
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Apr 3, 2017 17:46
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Oliver's mind is probably way more fun than David's, Shadow King made the right choice.
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:Oliver's mind is probably way more fun than David's And also probably more pretentious.
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Apr 3, 2017 19:10
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DrunkPanda posted:God drat, dude. Watch porn if you are that desperate. Post whatever amalgamation of flesh you gird with a loincloth please.
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Apr 3, 2017 19:29
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don't post about how sexy you find television characters you weirdo
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I just scanned through the thread so I apologize if I'm repeating what others have already said or shot down. I saw a lot of hate for Syd and her being "the girlfriend" without much more, but I actually really thought that was intentional character work for her. The moment it hit me was when David first talks about leaving and going after his sister and she sort of panics and offers to change for him and let him touch her. It was this really sudden neediness and clinginess and that's when I realized Syd had spent her entire live lonely and isolated and having an unhealthy attachment to David was entirely a result of that. The way she risks everything for him and makes decisions entirely on saving him is all part of how he's given her a connection and a way to feel that she's never had. Its not healthy but none of these people are healthy and that's kind of the point.
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I think people are unnecessarily criticizing Syd's characterization. She had agency. She saved David and other people more than once. She has her own issues, which Stack Goat pointed out (I mean remember the how she lost her virginity story?) She's not just there to be the girlfriend, and she chose David as much as he chose her.
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anothergod posted:He was positioned as a government man with a heart from the beginning. Was he? I viewed him as just another government psychopath willing to go to any means to get what they wanted from David in that first episode. Granted, this was the first ep, where I was still very disoriented with the whole "just wtf is going on in this show" aspect, David was the only viewpoint of everything I had so far, and I haven't rewatched any of the episodes. flosofl posted:Because he was folded up and crumpled like a piece of paper and was very obviously dead in ep 7? Did you need them to show what they did with the remains or something? I don't think it's unreasonable, as the show has jumped around many levels of reality, David's psyche, and even astral planes, and it's not clear what exactly the rules are in all of them, or just what powers everyone has, and Eye Man has been shown to have some powerful poo poo up his sleeve so far. Plus, he's not the only significant character that was stuck in that place who we've seen nothing about since last seeing scenes there, and there have already been other characters coming back from seemingly irreversible death like states in other realms. Combined with being a show that has comic book influences, I don't think it's unfair for someone to want to see, or still wonder about, his current fate, even if it is as a crumpled, crushed, and cubed corpse horrifying bypassers at a location in the real, physical world.
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savinhill posted:Was he? I viewed him as just another government psychopath willing to go to any means to get what they wanted from David in that first episode. Granted, this was the first ep, where I was still very disoriented with the whole "just wtf is going on in this show" aspect, David was the only viewpoint of everything I had so far, and I haven't rewatched any of the episodes. I rewatched the Bolero sequence (because it's so damned good), and when he was crumpled up in the Astral plane, in the real world he had sheets of blood streaming out of his skull. As uncertain as we can be about the reality of this show, I think it's pretty fair to say he is D-E-D dead and not coming back.
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Apr 4, 2017 02:21
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When the "pause" ended, you can see the crumple re-playing out in real time/world. Cary also has a callback to it in the finale when playing up how dangerous SK is, "You didn't see the blood pouring out of Walter's eyes.."
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:I don;t like how the last episode didn't resolve whatever happened to the eye character at all. Like why even spend most of the season on this villain if he isnt going to get screen time in the last ep? I thought that was an intentional subversion, the Eye was an amoral attack dog and the fact that he had powers was kinda immaterial to that, that just made him more useful to his superiors. Meanwhile his working partner who doesn't have powers is a family man who believes in the cause and can be swayed by reason, despite being flash-fried by his enemies.
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Apr 4, 2017 05:16
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david should remove that old womans wart since hes so powerful
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Apr 4, 2017 05:45
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Is tree man that thing Shadow King got so pissed he couldn't find? Just noticed he's in the first episode in the first like 6 minutes, he shows up during a bunch of flashes to the king personas.
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Apr 4, 2017 06:22
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holy lol if Tree Man ends up relevant I am going to laugh my rear end off.
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Wait. Did we never find out who Plant Person/ Master of Disguise / Tree Man was?
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Escobarbarian posted:don't post about how sexy you find television characters you weirdo Amber Midthunder 
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Hollismason posted:Wait. Did we never find out who Plant Person/ Master of Disguise / Tree Man was? Nope.
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I have no idea what you guys are talking about so I guess this is definitely a show I should give a second watch.
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This guy. He was in the mental institution in ep1 as well.
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Apr 4, 2017 23:11
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Yeah, I totally never saw that guy.
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McSpanky posted:I thought that was an intentional subversion, the Eye was an amoral attack dog and the fact that he had powers was kinda immaterial to that, that just made him more useful to his superiors. Meanwhile his working partner who doesn't have powers is a family man who believes in the cause and can be swayed by reason, despite being flash-fried by his enemies. I really love what they did with his partner. You feel bad for him because he wasn't wrong, David was a huge Goddamn threat to everything. If he ends up ally or enemy, I understand where he's coming from. And The Eye got the best TV death I've seen in forever. Said it before but that was straight out of a classic 80s horror movie, felt like it belonged in Hellraiser or something.
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I really appreciate how understated he was. He was creepy, intense, thoroughly menacing, and then right when you just couldn't look past how horrible he was prepared to be, he gets the most gruesome death in the show and all told he has , what, a dozen lines across 6 episodes? I also really can't tell you the last time i took someone with such tight curls so seriously, and I say that as a very curly-haired person.
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Someone posted earlier that Shadow King might be looking for another very powerful mutant now that David is no longer an option. Considering he was looking for something Xavier knew about, anyone else think he may be looking for Cerebro? When I first thought that I said "too comic booky", but then again, a floating orb kidnapped David, so now I'm on the maybe camp.
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Mr. Nemo posted:Someone posted earlier that Shadow King might be looking for another very powerful mutant now that David is no longer an option. Considering he was looking for something Xavier knew about, anyone else think he may be looking for Cerebro? When I first thought that I said "too comic booky", but then again, a floating orb kidnapped David, so now I'm on the maybe camp. I said that I think, but I don't remember when it was said or implied that whatever he's looking for is something Xavier knew about. I think Cerebro is something too closely identifiable with X-Men for that to be in S2.
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Hey look Aubrey Plaza gets her first starring role. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G5l5q-DT2g Hopefully it's well done but I have no faith in anyone ever.
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Grem posted:Hey look Aubrey Plaza gets her first starring role. What. She had a starring role in Life After Beth and some other movie about two guys needing wedding dates or something. Also, Safety Not Guaranteed.
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Ok movies I might actually care about then. e: maybe I meant lead? I dunno
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Leading role and starring role mean pretty much the same thing nowadays as far as I know.
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Grem posted:Ok movies I might actually care about then. Safety Not Guaranteed is a good movie you should check it out. Also she is the lead in that and Life After Beth.
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I just remembered that she had a supporting role in Dirty Grandpa and what a loving terrible movie that was. The ending scene where she dry-humps Robert De Niro was somewhat funny though.
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Escobarbarian posted:Safety Not Guaranteed is a good movie you should check it out. I couldn't make myself watch that movie when they took the most perfect premise for an amazing cheeseball time travel movie and turned into a romantic comedy. I like her as an actress but gently caress that movie forever.
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She was also a re-ocurring guest-star on top 'clearly this was made as a favour to somoeone' show Welcome To Sweden with Amy Phoeler. She stars as herself which is really all that needs to be said.
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MiddleOne posted:She was also a re-ocurring guest-star on top 'clearly this was made as a favour to somoeone' show Welcome To Sweden with Amy Phoeler. She stars as herself which is really all that needs to be said. The creator is Amy Poehler's brother, so yeah, just doing him a solid.
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Haha I knew it.
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Apr 5, 2017 13:07
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Greg Poehler is good in that You Me Her show.
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Finally caught up with the show and the thread. I thought The Final Battle between David and the Shadow King took place long before they ran down the corridor at each other. That final act was all the Shadow King had left. It was a now-or-never moment and it lost. If it hadn't found another compatible host so quickly, it may have taken it years to recover. It was just as dependent and David as David was on it. All that "what will be I be without you, we've been together so long" stuff was coming out of David's mouth, but could have just as easily been the Shadow King talking. It's used to jumping bodies so it will probably recover quickly, but it was still just freshly dumped out of the most powerful mutant on the planet and was suffering from whatever that hangover feels like. It was pissed and did not expect to win. I think Oliver was an unexpected turn of events for it and it immediately took advantage of it by getting the hell out of Dodge and away from David. Other observations. Syd is acting like someone who was emotionally abused finding someone who treats her with something resembling love. She has no idea how this works. She just knows "Holy, poo poo! I can touch this guy! I can have sex! Sex is awesome! Without this guy I can no longer touch anyone or have sex. This guy is everything to me no matter what." Like she's in her mid to late 20s and has never even held hands. Imagine the most repressed Christian you can imagine suddenly being thrust into a liberal college. You go hog wild. She'll get a handle on it and may start to feel bad for some of her decisions. David is still sick. He's just so much batter than he was with the Shadow King out of his head. We have no idea the extents of his illness or his powers. Almost every character on the show is written like a real person. They make dumb and rash decisions, they overlook things that are important because they can't be bothered, they get distracted. It's great. Everything, every stupid thing that happened, makes sense. Oliver seems to be a technical genius? And a psychic? He built the tech at Summerland with Cary (or is it Kerry). I don't know. But I could listen to his sweet voice all day long. I'm glad nobody else died. That would have been cliché. Maybe murder someone S2E1 just to spice things up. I really like the new characterization of evil interrogator into dedicated family man with a loving husband (who also works for the evil government). Also, the license plate on Oliver's car was British, right? Might it be set in the UK? I know, nobody had accents, but Oliver, but it is TV. No idea what the Pokeball was, though. Wondered why, if they had tech that could contain David and his power, they didn't use it much earlier. I fully expect season 2 to provide a satisfying answer. And also continue to make me cry and question my own sanity.
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Aleph Null posted:Also, the license plate on Oliver's car was British, right? Might it be set in the UK? I know, nobody had accents, but Oliver, but it is TV. I have no idea about the location, but beyond plates the steering wheel was on the right-hand side.
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