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basic hitler posted:A show about methman is made worse by a wife who represents the real world. He shouldve had a crazy tweaker wife who was all in on day one and a cool meth son who uses meth to deal with his disability+ study harder in school with dads meths METH - Good In Moderation
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Little known fact- meth is safe and cool.
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If you need to stay awake, meth is useful. Also if you need to lose weight. Fun fact: it's only schedule ii, which makes it safer than marijuana!
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Blue Raider posted:true detective season 1 is the best tv has ever been. Tolkien minority posted:I agree. Like there's a lot of great tv shows but td is like a movie, there's nothing wasted or filler and it all just comes together perfectly im shook by this
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Blue Raider posted:true detective season 1 is the best tv has ever been. ill also accept arguments for deadwood Deadwood yes, TD season 2 actually retroactively ruined the first season a little bit. It made me a little apoplectic.
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Breaking Bad was especially frustrating to watch live as it unfolded, episode by episode. AMC would have the long commercial breaks and I'd have to see Jon Hamm's stupid face like five times over an hour since Mad Men was booming too. Worse yet, the show bats a consistent .333 on good scenes, so you'd get like a dud of a scene, a good scene, another dud then ohp time to be reminded that Mad Men is on too! And then just to wait a week for the same spotty viewing experience. It definitely improves to just roll through the show on Netflix.
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Peetown Manning posted:Breaking Bad was especially frustrating to watch live as it unfolded, episode by episode. AMC would have the long commercial breaks and I'd have to see Jon Hamm's stupid face like five times over an hour since Mad Men was booming too. Worse yet, the show bats a consistent .333 on good scenes, so you'd get like a dud of a scene, a good scene, another dud then ohp time to be reminded that Mad Men is on too! Yes and then this process was extended over like 6 years as well, ugh
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The main thing that bugs me about Skylurrrs character is that the entire point is that Walt doesn't make enough to support his family. It's implied that Skylar is kind of not good at working because her "job" is like a sell-on-amazon thing. But later in the series she kicks rear end at every job. Why didn't she just be good at working at the start of the series. To be a stay at home mom for her teenager?
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:The main thing that bugs me about Skylurrrs character is that the entire point is that Walt doesn't make enough to support his family. It's implied that Skylar is kind of not good at working because her "job" is like a sell-on-amazon thing. But later in the series she kicks rear end at every job. You see, the realization of cancer/death POWERS EVERYTHING
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:The main thing that bugs me about Skylurrrs character is that the entire point is that Walt doesn't make enough to support his family. It's implied that Skylar is kind of not good at working because her "job" is like a sell-on-amazon thing. But later in the series she kicks rear end at every job. walt wouldnt be able to support his family bc hed be dead and they had a tiny baby to take care of so they would have had to crate train the baby and it would get restless and bark and upset the neighbors you stuipid shitbird
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Peetown Manning posted:You see, the realization of cancer/death POWERS EVERYTHING I dunno, vicious masculine entitlement/bitterness being totally unstoppable and destructive when let out the cage is half the point of the show...
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I thought the point was that Walter White was always a gigantic, egotistical piece of poo poo but it took the threat of cancer for him to own up to his own inherent badness. He doesn't "become" a bad guy, he was always a bad guy but he had a good job and good health so he just played it safe and didn't make waves.
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King Vidiot posted:I thought the point was that Walter White was always a gigantic, egotistical piece of poo poo but it took the threat of cancer for him to own up to his own inherent badness. He doesn't "become" a bad guy, he was always a bad guy but he had a good job and good health so he just played it safe and didn't make waves. This, which is why he blew up his opportunity to be rich when in college for a super tenuous reason. Then he took his ball and went home to be a high school teacher instead of using his field experience and knowledge to do something else super lucrative anyway. He's a chemistry genius with lots of connections and yet he is a HS teacher because he can't get off his high horse for 2 seconds and would rather burn his and his family's life down before taking help.
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I wish all shows could have the caliber of cinematography and editing that Breaking Bad had. A lot of scenes in the show are basically frivolous or unimportant but the cinematography alone is enough to make them interesting and fun to watch. Better Call Saul is an even better example because it uses the same style and is a super tense show despite not a whole lot happening in two whole seasons now.
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breaking bad was a great show because it's super compelling to watch a bitter nerd become a legit richass drug kingpin i was kind of bummed they didn't have walt's cancer go away forever and have him living alone, rich but lonely and miserable as poo poo because he had to create a new identity and can never ever ever speak to his family or even send them money it would have been a better ending but i'm still pretty happy with the show overall; i wish they focused more on the european connection instead of the nazis tho sweetmercifulcrap posted:I wish all shows could have the caliber of cinematography and editing that Breaking Bad had. A lot of scenes in the show are basically frivolous or unimportant but the cinematography alone is enough to make them interesting and fun to watch. Better Call Saul is an even better example because it uses the same style and is a super tense show despite not a whole lot happening in two whole seasons now. I like Better Call Saul a lot but they really need to start ramping up the Gus and Mike part of the show. Gus's operation was some of the suavest poo poo in TV history
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Season 2 of Breaking Bad was the only one that they actually plotted out and wrote from the beginning instead of just making it up along as they went, it must suck to know that the season you worked the hardest on is the one everyone considers to the worst.
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Guy Mann posted:Season 2 of Breaking Bad was the only one that they actually plotted out and wrote from the beginning instead of just making it up along as they went, it must suck to know that the season you worked the hardest on is the one everyone considers to the worst. Well what Breaking Bad did and why it worked better than other shows is something I call Retroactive Continuity Most shows: Hero gets stuck, writers invent a some random loving way for them to get out of it Breaking Bad: Hero gets stuck, writers look at all past events and characters to find some way for them to get out of it As a result Breaking Bad feels very natural even if they're winging it; the characters are doing logical things based on things established, and thus, they're building on what they've already done and pulling it together even before they had an end goal. It's a common sense great idea for TV writers, which is why 99% of them don't do it and don't even know the rules of the show they're writing for. ED: BCS is kind of amusing in this regard because they are still actively doing this with Saul/BB, except in reverse - where they are taking references and things mentioned in Breaking Bad and fleshing them out in the prequel. Best example: Nacho in Saul came from Saul screaming about a guy named Nacho when he's kidnapped and meets Walt & Jesse. Little things like that make a huge, huge difference at coherence.
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numberoneposter posted:i should check out deadwood You better, cocksucker
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nigga crab pollock posted:lmao I said it goes from "Very, very good" to "Incredibly Exceptional." And yeah there are some shows with lovely first seasons that got good after. 
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Blazing Ownager posted:
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Secular Humanist posted:The only actually bad part of breaking bad is the portrayal of meth addicts. Like, I get that drugs are bad, but they were so insanely cartoonish and one dimensional, and jesse meanwhile was seemingly immune to the mummifying effects of meth use somehow and *his* use was always presented as a dramatic emotional struggle whereas the nameless addicts were just "lol some dirtbag prob sucks dick for meth lol" I think that was pretty intentional, because of Walt's investment. Even though Walt was being a total loving rear end in a top hat exploiting Jesse, without Walt having set Jesse on a different path, he would absolutely end up like that. In fact the one point in the show he avoids Walt, he ends up living in a dug den spaced the gently caress out, going to rehab meetings to push drugs.
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Blazing Ownager posted:Well what Breaking Bad did and why it worked better than other shows is something I call Retroactive Continuity  except the MAGNETS thing at the beginning of season 5
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Secular Humanist posted:The only actually bad part of breaking bad is the portrayal of meth addicts. Like, I get that drugs are bad, but they were so insanely cartoonish and one dimensional, Meth junkies are loving trash and the worst of all addicts
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It's already been touched on upthread but why is Sklyer some kind of virtuous paragon? She's clearly intelligent and motivated with a background in accounting but she would rather be a stay at home mom/"writer" while Walt is literally dying working two jobs. They're both shitheels who deserve each other: Walt wants to play at being the chivalrous patriarch and she's happy to indulge him unless it's inconvenient for her.
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Excuse me being a mother is the most difficult job in the world
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Blue Train posted:Excuse me being a mother is the most difficult job in the world Especially when your kid never shuts up about breakfast
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Do you think Skylar smoked when she was pregnant with Walter Jr. too and that's what made him retarded
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Ein cooler Typ posted:Do you think Skylar smoked when she was pregnant with Walter Jr. too and that's what made him retarded He has aids, not retard stuff show respect
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Carver Crisis posted:Criticize the plane crash all you want but I think the scene where Walt tells the school assembly that it wasn't the worst air disaster ever more than justifies its existence. It's fun watching him go from trying to convince the students that it wasn't such a bad thing, to trying to convince himself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-8FB6k8jik
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i like that, at teh end of the day, they really were saved by a robot
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King Vidiot posted:I thought the point was that Walter White was always a gigantic, egotistical piece of poo poo but it took the threat of cancer for him to own up to his own inherent badness. He doesn't "become" a bad guy, he was always a bad guy but he had a good job and good health so he just played it safe and didn't make waves. This is correct and obvious when watching the series a second time. He starts being a selfish, ego driven dick by episode three at the latest
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King Vidiot posted:I thought the point was that Walter White was always a gigantic, egotistical piece of poo poo but it took the threat of cancer for him to own up to his own inherent badness. He doesn't "become" a bad guy, he was always a bad guy but he had a good job and good health so he just played it safe and didn't make waves. The show is called Breaking Bad.
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walt doing that speach in the school gym was him putting all the nails in the coffin all at once to remove himself from the school system without actually saying he quits like other posters, hello  , have mention this show was written somewhat without an end game for a lot of it and it produces stuff like that which is greathes in full black there too explaining the plane crash the producers "color theory" is pretty good at giving hints to characters motives numberoneposter fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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the other show that comes to mind which also got itself in a similar situation was battle star galactica and especailly its spin off galaga: computer girl or whatever i enjoyed both quite a bit even though they ultimately kind of ended very weird
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Decrepus posted:The show is called Breaking Bad. He throws a pizza on a garage, that is the sign of a born bad dude
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numberoneposter posted:the producers "color theory" is pretty good at giving hints to characters motives It's also incredibly forced and unsubtle. Like we get it already, Marie likes purple and walt alternates between green and black when he's the bad guy. It just felt like a shoehorned-in/forced way to have a ~deeper meaning~ for people to play media critic/analyst on the internet about.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:It's also incredibly forced and unsubtle. Like we get it already, Marie likes purple and walt alternates between green and black when he's the bad guy. It just felt like a shoehorned-in/forced way to have a ~deeper meaning~ for people to play media critic/analyst on the internet about. im sure you have seen this before its the infographic that someone with a lot of time put together a chart of what the characters wore until the end of the series  i dont see how it takes away from the show and i agree it doesnt really work on its own it just shows attention to detail numberoneposter fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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