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re: razor not really but it's aged a bit and could use some love/modernization
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razor isn't *bad* it's just not suitable for 2017 and stuff like angular has pretty much superseded it
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Luigi Thirty posted:...now i just need to figure out how to write a reversi AI which i never really got around to last time i tried this project but if you want to just spitball stuff I can help
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Luigi Thirty posted:razor isn't *bad* it's just not suitable for 2017 and stuff like angular has pretty much superseded it angular is a total nightmare
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I never came up with a good quiescence heuristic for iterative deepening search
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Shaggar posted:angular is a total nightmare can confirm that angular 1.x is godawful. I have been told 2.x is better but have no idea if that's true. at least it uses typescript we started this project after angular 2 was public. this guy talked everybody into using angular 1 because he knew it so well and liked it, then hosed off to a startup like a month ago dude was an alright guy but I won't miss having to deal with his code
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I wrote a pretty basic one with alpha beta pruning a while back, but it's all in C++ with smart pointers and such which I don't think helps you in Amiga land i'm using GCC 6 if that's something C++14 can do, there's just no boost for amigaos 3
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i'm dead and posting from beyond the grave. i was killed today by a huge task being assigned to me and being told that it will go forward in "prototyping" fashion. this is the task i and another developer were asked for a time estimate. the specs were vague and i didn't know the underlying architecture. i said 6 months for development + 1 month for integration, the other guy (who didn't work on this project anymore) said 1 month. the estimate was set at 1 month. the specs are still as vague as they were back then, except i was told that i should implement the feature in our new architecture, which has been developed separately from the old one and has nothing to do with it and has no integration. in other words the data and the ui that exist in the old architecture are not available in the new one and cannot be dropped in. also the new project has been in ice for a couple of months and i haven't worked in it for 6 months. when i asked what is the deadline, or specifically when is the target release due, i was told to just assign the jira ticket to myself and given no answer. every question i had was answered with it being a prototyping project and i should talk to the guy who made the original vague spec. Boooooooooooooooooooo!
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Flat Daddy posted:redux is event sourcing on the front end. with redux I can have error reports that have the entire history for a users browsing session, and all I had to do was write or add in a small middleware. I can load their history, play their actions in my environment, then go back in time and inspect component state at various points etc. Is this with Raven/Sentry or something else?
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error message that has been in logs: "SOAP connection requires port to be an integer, found "connectionProperties.getPort()" instead they put the call in a string and no one noticed for years
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Is this with Raven/Sentry or something else? mine doesn't use raven yet but I could easily drop it in. now it's a "save this .json file and attach it in your jira ticket" kind of thing but eventually i want to post with raven and display the incident id
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Wheany posted:i'm dead and posting from beyond the grave. i was killed today by a huge task being assigned to me and being told that it will go forward in "prototyping" fashion. rip in peace
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Apr 5, 2017 16:12
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Wheany posted:Boooooooooooooooooooo! Have fun asserting yourself and then being dinged on your next review for not being a team player.
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Apr 5, 2017 16:32
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stuff like this makes me very happy about my company sometimes. my manager tells anyone wanting something done without a spec to gently caress off
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Apr 5, 2017 18:35
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we have specs on everyhting too in fact we're so agile everything has several specs, and it's mostly recorded in slack messages which spec we're working off of and how the request is different from what's written down
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Apr 5, 2017 19:24
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CPColin posted:Have fun asserting yourself and then being dinged on your next review for not being a team player. i was dinged for not submitting my hours on time. we have a (virtual) time punch card, but regardless of that we have to submit exactly 7.5 hours per day, every day, on a separate form. any absences (sick leave, vacations, flex time) need to be submitted both on the "7.5 hour per day" form and also on yet another form. i submitted maybe 1 or 2 forms late last year due to sick leave or vacation, i forget. it's suuuuuuuuper dumb.
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No spec Work! Oh, they got this all screwed up No spec. Work!
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:redux is so good It looks like another needlessly complex garbo js framework. What problem is it even supposed to solve ?
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jre posted:It looks like another needlessly complex garbo js framework. What problem is it even supposed to solve ? the problem is that the code in most SPAs is spaghetti poo poo. maybe you've been lucky but like every angular or jquery codebase I've seen really sucks to add things to. otoh with redux it takes no effort at all as long as you've reduxed your app real good redux centralizes your state into a single json tree (which can only ever be updated by the store), centralizes your state updates into a single reducer function (which is purely functional), and centralizes all your presentation into one react component tree (which is basically a single pure function of state->dom). the state gives you a perfect snapshot of your app for debugging, and can be saved to a disk, restored, attached to a bug report etc. the reducer is composed of smaller reducers (usually one per component or page) each of which are amazingly easy to unit test ("assert reducer(state, action) == expectedState"). even though everything is centralized to be nice and debuggable, redux provides ways to decouple your components so you end up getting the best of both worlds, where it's still really easy to add and remove components
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Flat Daddy posted:the problem is that the code in most SPAs is spaghetti poo poo. maybe you've been lucky but like every angular or jquery codebase I've seen really sucks to add things to. otoh with redux it takes no effort at all as long as you've reduxed your app real good
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redux is really good, especially when it's called elm
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at the end of the day though, you're still writing garbage JS. it just makes it, i daresay, enjoyable.
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Asymmetrikon posted:redux is really good, especially when it's called elm yeah but no one has heard of elm and using it requires you rewrite your entire frontend so it's not really practical in the real world. you can just bring in redux as a library and refactor towards it gradually.
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i'm not sure that what was needed was another js library that pulls the controller into the front end... i think the real solution here might be 'don't write SPAs' that require more than one model and aren't just doing CRUD' edit: i am terrible though and am guilty of writing spaghetti jquery for that exact case so tbh i don't know what I'm talking about
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Flat Daddy posted:the problem is that the code in most SPAs is spaghetti poo poo. maybe you've been lucky but like every angular or jquery codebase I've seen really sucks to add things to. otoh with redux it takes no effort at all as long as you've reduxed your app real good This sounds horrendous for any website that has any non trivial functionality.
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jre posted:This sounds horrendous for any website that has any non trivial functionality. luckily, no such website exists
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Flat Daddy posted:the problem is that the code in most SPAs is spaghetti poo poo. I'm prototyping one right now to find out the requirements. I absolutely hate all of it. However I like doing stupid poo poo like this 3d flipping: 
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MrMoo posted:I'm prototyping one right now to find out the requirements. I absolutely hate all of it. awesome anyway i took REVERSI.CPP and adapted it for use with VS2017 and win32 console output so i can write and debug this minimax thing without going insane so hopefully i'll have something soon
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jre posted:This sounds horrendous for any website that has any non trivial functionality. like what non-trivial functionality does it sound horrible for? I mean, I left out sagas which is where you keep side effects and async poo poo. they're coroutines that interact with your store via actions going in and out you can write arbitrarily complex flows like "if I see some sequence of actions, ACTION1, ACTION2, ACTION3 in order, then fire off and wait for an Ajax call 10 times sequentially with a while loop (stopping if the user clicks cancel), then fire off 3 more Ajax calls and race to see which one returns first" and poo poo like that. it would be in a flat, imperatively-written generator function with no callbacks, and it's unit testable.
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jre posted:This sounds horrendous for any website that has any non trivial functionality. our oldass winforms program has some fairly complex forms (particularly in the packaging and industrial operations part) and when i first read about the elm / react architecture it immediately sounded familiar to me since over the years we'd gravitated to refactoring the nastiest of our forms into a very half-assed implementation of the same idea i.e. most event handlers only change a property or two in the vaguely viewmodel-esque object and then they always call the same UpdateForm() method which re-configures the whole form layout on the basis of said object ofc there's no such thing as a virtual DOM for winforms, so we just put up with the code being exceedingly wasteful (luxuries of the desktop) and just sprinkle a few "if currentProperty <> newProperty" when some particular control gets perceptibly laggy
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redux seems really cool but I'm not sure how to drop it into an existing application other than "lol rewrite your controllers into a bunch of API end points then move all the logic out to redux" or something there's an awful lot of "create a new thing from scratch!" guides out there, an awful lot less of "how to integrate this into an existing webapp somehow"
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rewrite existing poo poo from scratch is what web devs do all the time so makes sense.
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redux is pretty good but elm is better i seriously don't get how anyone can look at redux (or any of it's alikes) and not instantly recognize that it's vastly superior to like, angular or vue or whatever
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ugh why is vs2015 taking 60s+ to respond to web requests in debug? having to wait for a refresh that slow to fix my lovely code is killing me
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:ugh why is vs2015 taking 60s+ to respond to web requests in debug? having to wait for a refresh that slow to fix my lovely code is killing me is it trying to load symbols during that time?
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