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bull3964 posted:It's memories, not time travel. McDonald's can be in 1998, the garage memory can be sometime else. The alien agent said the thing in the garage happened somewhere between 9/11 and Rick's favorite sports blooper. So the fake memory was set even LATER than 1998, and thus even more impossible.
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TFRazorsaw posted:The alien agent said the thing in the garage happened somewhere between 9/11 and Rick's favorite sports blooper. He just said it was between those two things in Rick's brain. I don't think chronological order was necessarily implied. 
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Apr 5, 2017 13:59
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i mean they never specified the memories were in chronological order from left to right i wish i could hear what rick was saying in the 9/11 memory. i think i heard something like "they've taken away our freedom"
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Apr 5, 2017 13:59
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TFRazorsaw posted:The alien agent said the thing in the garage happened somewhere between 9/11 and Rick's favorite sports blooper. The memory with Beth was PHYSICALLY in between 9/11 and the sports blooper when they were looking out the window.
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Apr 5, 2017 14:00
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Given how left>right progression is pretty ingrained in western culture, I would assume the implication was a given. But really the biggest shocker is that Rick likes sports and cared about 9/11.
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Apr 5, 2017 14:02
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He liked sports bloopers. Of course he would. It's someone else experiencing pain for your amusement.
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Apr 5, 2017 14:03
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So it turns out that Rick doesn't really give a poo poo about Morty and his family and just wants power within the family? Or was he just trying to hide his true feelings?
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Apr 5, 2017 14:04
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we'll have to watch the rest of the season to find out!
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Apr 5, 2017 14:05
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I lean more towards he doesn't want anyone to believe he cares about them, and he doesn't want to believe he cares about anyone either because he sees it as a weakness. But he does. Bird person knows this.
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Apr 5, 2017 14:05
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parallelodad posted:I lean more towards he doesn't want anyone to believe he cares about them, and he doesn't want to believe he cares about anyone either because he sees it as a weakness. But he does. Bird person knows this. I'm on board with this interpretation. Poor Birdperson. 
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Apr 5, 2017 14:06
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Cardboard Box posted:i mean they never specified the memories were in chronological order from left to right It's along the lines of "They're going to use this as an excuse to take away our freedom"
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Apr 5, 2017 14:08
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parallelodad posted:I lean more towards he doesn't want anyone to believe he cares about them, and he doesn't want to believe he cares about anyone either because he sees it as a weakness. But he does. Bird person knows this. yeah that's what i think too. remember when he teared up when he saw baby morty? 
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Apr 5, 2017 14:09
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Budgie posted:It's along the lines of "They're going to use this as an excuse to take away our freedom" ahaha that's awesome
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Apr 5, 2017 14:10
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TFRazorsaw posted:Given how left>right progression is pretty ingrained in western culture, I would assume the implication was a given. You are reading way way too much into this. Artist wanted them standing in front of a portal as a central focal point for the shot and they needed two throwaway things to book end it on either side. Rick and Morty isn't a puzzle box, it never has been. Not to mention what they were looking out of the window wasn't even the garage memory anyways because that shot didn't happen in the garage memory.
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Apr 5, 2017 14:10
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Well I know that. I'm just saying that the implied implausible time scale of it supposedly happening after 9/11 when Beth is clearly at least in her 40's was even more hinting that the memory is impossibly bogus. The fact that shot never happens at all is even more of an indicator. Of course, I'm seeing a lot of people who WANT Rick's clichely tragic backstory to be real.
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Apr 5, 2017 14:14
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TFRazorsaw posted:Well I know that. I'm just saying that the implied implausible time scale of it supposedly happening after 9/11 when Beth is clearly at least in her 40's was even more hinting that the memory is impossibly bogus. The fact that shot never happens at all is even more of an indicator. I don't think Beth can be in her 40s, because she had Summer at the end of high school, so she'd be less than 20. And Summer's still in high school, so another under-20.
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Apr 5, 2017 14:16
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What if our Rick was the one who warned Blue Pants Rick and dropped the bomb of his own free will to make sure Different Rick would invent a portal gun for reasons?
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Apr 5, 2017 14:18
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Eh. Either way. 1998 and 2001 are both impossible dates for that explicitly fake event to have ruined Rick's life. Edit - Or maybe it's just Dumbass Rick's backstory. He seems like the type to wear blue pants.
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Apr 5, 2017 14:18
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but nobody was eating poo poo? 
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Apr 5, 2017 14:22
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What do you think the ice cream was going to be made of?
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Apr 5, 2017 14:25
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Nerd/fan culture is the worst thing to ever happen to humanity.
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Apr 5, 2017 14:26
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TFRazorsaw posted:Well I know that. I'm just saying that the implied implausible time scale of it supposedly happening after 9/11 when Beth is clearly at least in her 40's was even more hinting that the memory is impossibly bogus. The fact that shot never happens at all is even more of an indicator. Let me really blow your mind. Since they never left the Shoney's, the McDonald's memory was fabricated too. We never saw Rick eating the sauce, he must have fed the other guy poo poo!
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Apr 5, 2017 14:27
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Well he is a giant fly.
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Apr 5, 2017 14:34
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RandomPauI posted:What if our Rick was the one who warned Blue Pants Rick and dropped the bomb of his own free will to make sure Different Rick would invent a portal gun for reasons? TFRazorsaw posted:Eh. Either way. 1998 and 2001 are both impossible dates for that explicitly fake event to have ruined Rick's life. When the agent said that the moment Rick invented the Portal gun was tucked inbetween 9/11 and his favourite sports blooper, he was probably being metaphorical.
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Apr 5, 2017 14:48
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punk rebel ecks posted:So it turns out that Rick doesn't really give a poo poo about Morty and his family and just wants power within the family? Or was he just trying to hide his true feelings? Rick has either been completely drunk or suffering MASSIVE withdrawals throughout every episode of the show so there's no way to tell if his ranting is genuine or just complete bullshit. Also he probably makes up a bunch of this stuff or massively exaggerates it because he enjoys loving with Morty. Also there's no way of knowing if he's the same Rick from episode to episode or an alternate universe Rick so what he says in one episode might not count in a different episode. Also a whole bunch of stuff he says is just throwaway 4th-wall-breaking jokes that the writers thought were funny and wasn't meant to be taken literally. tl;dr: don't think about it
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Apr 5, 2017 14:54
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As he'd have to be older to be smart enough to advise the president, I'd guess Beancounter was born in 1998. I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
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Apr 5, 2017 14:54
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TFRazorsaw posted:The alien agent said the thing in the garage happened somewhere between 9/11 and Rick's favorite sports blooper. Dudes They're all fake memories They never left Shoneys Stop over-thinking it.
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Apr 5, 2017 15:01
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Was mr poopman a parasite!??
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Apr 5, 2017 15:08
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Budgie posted:It's along the lines of "They're going to use this as an excuse to take away our freedom" Oh that's even better. I knew I heard "take away our freedom", but it's perfect for Rick to skip right over "thousands died" to "how does this effect me?"
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Apr 5, 2017 15:39
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Covok posted:Oh that's even better. I knew I heard "take away our freedom", but it's perfect for Rick to skip right over "thousands died" to "how does this effect me?" It's not like he was wrong. 
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Apr 5, 2017 16:50
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In the commentaries Harmon and Justin explicitly say that they don't want there to be continuity and that their original plan was to have Beth and Jerry get divorced every episode ala Kenny getting killed in south park. I felt like the episode was packed with references to previous seasons so that they could put a bow on it and go back to "normal". My bet is that the next episodes exist in a vacuum and don't tie back to any of this stuff.
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Apr 5, 2017 17:08
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hell the end of the episode has beth saying she's going to make sure jerry leaves before he changes his mind, i'd be surprised if jerry didn't fold immediately the moment beth went to tell rick about the divorce
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Apr 5, 2017 17:18
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Salt Fish posted:In the commentaries Harmon and Justin explicitly say that they don't want there to be continuity and that their original plan was to have Beth and Jerry get divorced every episode ala Kenny getting killed in south park. I felt like the episode was packed with references to previous seasons so that they could put a bow on it and go back to "normal". My bet is that the next episodes exist in a vacuum and don't tie back to any of this stuff. lol if the next episode just has Jerry and Beth married and no one asks questions or anyone is aware what is going on. Also, it sounds like what they want is the Simpsons/Family Guy/American Dad/Sealab 2021 situation. Perhaps closest to Sealab 2021 where the base blew up every episode. Hey, it worked for that show pretty well. I never asked questions when I was 10 years old.
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Apr 5, 2017 17:26
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Continuity is good. It makes shows more interesting. Just look at the closest analogue to this show, Family Matters. Where Rick is a much more ethical black nerd and Morty is a loving patriarchal cop.
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Apr 5, 2017 17:28
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CornHolio posted:Dudes Look, it's important we get the timeline down for this show that's made up as it goes along
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Apr 5, 2017 17:31
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Covok posted:lol if the next episode just has Jerry and Beth married and no one asks questions or anyone is aware what is going on. Next episode features her married to either Sleepy Gary or that guy she married after Jerry in an alternate universe.
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Apr 5, 2017 17:34
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Cardboard Box posted:yeah that's what i think too. remember when he teared up when he saw baby morty? In the Evil Morty episode? Wasn't that the fake Rick?
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TFRazorsaw posted:Well I know that. I'm just saying that the implied implausible time scale of it supposedly happening after 9/11 when Beth is clearly at least in her 40's was even more hinting that the memory is impossibly bogus. The fact that shot never happens at all is even more of an indicator. As a backstory it sucks, but I like what it says about the Council Of Ricks, so I'm hoping that it is inspired by their real operating procedure. Salt Fish posted:In the commentaries Harmon and Justin explicitly say that they don't want there to be continuity and that their original plan was to have Beth and Jerry get divorced every episode ala Kenny getting killed in south park. I felt like the episode was packed with references to previous seasons so that they could put a bow on it and go back to "normal". My bet is that the next episodes exist in a vacuum and don't tie back to any of this stuff. Eh, I also remember them saying at some point that they were planning to have another Meeseeks episode and another Evil Morty episode. They may have changed their minds since then, and I'd be fine with that, but I do remember them saying that. 21 Muns fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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21 Muns posted:Eh, I also remember them saying at some point that they were planning to have another Meeseeks episode and another Evil Morty episode. Uhhhh I'm pretty sure they said the exact opposite of that.
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