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loving beaten.
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they better reprint Hero's Downfall
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Apr 5, 2017 15:44
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if anyone here was actually hoping to play standard one day, i'm sorry for your loss
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Apr 5, 2017 15:45
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Trial of ambition is, like, REALLY good.
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Apr 5, 2017 15:45
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Oh good, just what standard needed. A 3 mana 4/4 indestructible, that can get itself out of Tower or Unlicensed range. This should make Mardu Vehicles playable. Good work Wizards
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quote:And why not? he thought. We're all in this for our own reasons. It's so drat messy—all of us, all our emotions and drives and goals. Look, I was going to pull out the choice bits and cobble together a Jace x Gideon fanfic out of this but then I looked at how long the page was.
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Apr 5, 2017 15:47
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YggdrasilTM posted:Trial of ambition is, like, REALLY good. Yeah it's great. Should be fun to play against with Guardian too...
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80s James Hetfield posted:Oh good, just what standard needed. A 3 mana 4/4 indestructible, that can get itself out of Tower or Unlicensed range. This should make Mardu Vehicles playable. Good work Wizards Actually, the +1 is really good AGAINST vehicles.
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Apr 5, 2017 15:50
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Lol at each cartouche potentially generating value except the red one.
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Apr 5, 2017 15:50
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I could see that Gideon doing work in places other than standard, that effect is really powerful if you can't bolt it
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Apr 5, 2017 15:50
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TheKingofSprings posted:I could see that Gideon doing work in places other than standard, that effect is really powerful if you can't bolt it There are legacy decks that can't beat the Emblem...
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Apr 5, 2017 15:51
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The more I read new Gid and the more it seems a control piece, not an aggro one.
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Apr 5, 2017 15:52
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The Trial/Cartouche cycle are loving amazing for limited and exactly the sort of enchantment matters theme that would have been awesome to have in Theros, the enchantment matters set, lol.
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Apr 5, 2017 15:53
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Serperoth posted:EDIT2: Go home Wizards, you're drunk.
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Apr 5, 2017 15:53
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black potus posted:Lol at each cartouche potentially generating value except the red one. Its a reprint of a card that was a loving house in RDW
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black potus posted:Lol at each cartouche potentially generating value except the red one. As a red player I am fine with a hammerhand reprint.
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Apr 5, 2017 15:54
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Yeah I definitely want to try those in my peasant cube.
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Apr 5, 2017 15:56
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mcmagic posted:There are legacy decks that can't beat the Emblem... This loving Gideon is worse than the previous ones (by worse i mean worse for standard). And it will be 60 bucks a pop.
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Apr 5, 2017 15:56
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Errant Gin Monks posted:This loving Gideon is worse than the previous ones (by worse i mean worse for standard). And it will be 60 bucks a pop. Agreed. It's horrible.
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Apr 5, 2017 15:57
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mcmagic posted:There are legacy decks that can't beat the Emblem... The list of legacy decks that cannot beat this Gideon is: preboard storm still might be playable though, as another lock piece. Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a question of you. Are you looking for the next Night's Whisper? The next Read the Bones? The next Painful Truths? Because boy howdy this card is not that 
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Why would you ever print that last ability Ever Hero's downfall had better be in the set E: like I see why it's there in a vacuum but hoo boy is it dangerous Jen X fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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Apr 5, 2017 15:59
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Oh also anyone who wants Planechase massdrop has it for 75 right now.
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Apr 5, 2017 16:00
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There better be some real good walker killers. Like 1R deal 4 damage to target permanent, downfall, a deck for the hasty dragon.
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Apr 5, 2017 16:00
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Elyv posted:The list of legacy decks that cannot beat this Gideon is: preboard storm How does any Delver variant beat it backed up by some disruption?
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I want to use it in esper walkers in modern. T3 New Gideon, t4 verdict, t5 Big Gideon plus to 8 seems difficult for a lot of things to beat.
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Apr 5, 2017 16:01
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mcmagic posted:There are legacy decks that can't beat the Emblem... Lol what deck can't remove a planeswalker? Like any creature deck obv has answers out the wazoo ANT has chain of vapor and possibly abrupt decay (if they aren't all in on Gideon tribal) Painted stone eliminates their deck and then swings at Gideon with their recruiters and painters Seriously what legacy deck doesn't have creatures or blue?
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Apr 5, 2017 16:02
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mcmagic posted:How does any Delver variant beat it backed up by some disruption? You attack it. a 3-mana "gain 3-5 life" is not an especially powerful card.
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Apr 5, 2017 16:02
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Jabor posted:You attack it. It does require a pretty developed board to deal with it
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Apr 5, 2017 16:03
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Serperoth posted:"Hm, these people paid a good amount of money to get those Standard rewards... Let's NOT do that any more!" Sun and Moon is pleased as gently caress. Hell yeah boys.
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Apr 5, 2017 16:04
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Jabor posted:You attack it. The +1 turns off a Delver
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Apr 5, 2017 16:04
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GeneX posted:Why would you ever print that last ability same reason emrakul had a mindslaver effect plus cost reduction mechanic design comes up with a flashy "iconic" effect, doesn't consider how awful and unfun it would be to play against constantly, then hands it off to development and says "here, make this standard playable"
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Apr 5, 2017 16:04
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Tales of Woe posted:that emblem is redundant in standard I lol'd.
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Elyv posted:The list of legacy decks that cannot beat this Gideon is: preboard storm And doomsday. Miracles could have a hard time with it if it was on board for a while. Enchantress might have issues. There are some that could struggle with it.
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Elyv posted:The list of legacy decks that cannot beat this Gideon is: preboard storm hey, remember how much people like Read the Bones? what if we made that card but lovely?
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Errant Gin Monks posted:This loving Gideon is worse than the previous ones (by worse i mean worse for standard). And it will be 60 bucks a pop. this is not as good as the BFZ one. if that one was rotating out now, as they presumably expected when they okayed this card, it wouldn't be a huge deal.
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Apr 5, 2017 16:06
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Jabor posted:You attack it. You need multiple creatures to attack it.
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Apr 5, 2017 16:06
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Why do they make every Gideon so good, what the gently caress
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I don't think it's all that great outside of standard In standard, it's a brick wall that just keeps growing each turn and requires at least 2 unblocked creatures just to start whittling it away, and indeed one that literally has to go away so you can win Especially since it specifically says "target permanent" instead of "target creature", meaning vehicles are out
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