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BBJoey posted:you're right the incel anime nazis are too powerful to physically confront They probably have katanas, I've seen them on the youtubes swinging them around as awkwardly as humanly possible. How can the new militant gay-left ever hope to deal with them! EDIT: 
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BBJoey posted:you're right the incel anime nazis are too powerful to physically confront  I dunno man
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hooman posted:They probably have katanas, I've seen them on the youtubes swinging them around as awkwardly as humanly possible. How can the new militant gay-left ever hope to deal with them! just whip up some of these and pin them against a wall with em https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasumata they'll be too awestruck by your glorious old nippon counter to seriously fight back
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Anidav posted:
Damnit, can somebody just make a 'label shirts from political cartoons' store already? TESTOSTERONE would be an awesome ironic shirt.
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Apr 6, 2017 08:11
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How can you confront what refuses to leave the house? Internet nazis are all smoke and no fire. They aren't even that really, they're human fan-forced ovens complete with a tray of potato gems.
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Apr 6, 2017 08:12
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Hey that's not fair! They sometimes leave the house and organise!
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Apr 6, 2017 08:16
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Guardian Au posted:Non-binary and gender-diverse students who receive the youth allowance have been warned their payments may be cut off because Centrelink’s internal system only allows for male or female. Good job Centrelink. https://www.theguardian.com/austral...re_iOSApp_Other EDIT: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Guardian AU posted:Looming cuts to community legal centres will undermine their ability to support vulnerable individuals targeted by Centrelink’s “robo-debt” system, the sector has warned. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/06/community-legal-centres-warn-cuts-will-leave-centrelinks-robo-debt-targets-helpless 
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Apr 6, 2017 09:08
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hooman posted:Good job Centrelink. At some point if this keeps up and the LNP pig snouters ever leave their silver palaces in the cities I wouldn't be surprised if some of the severely hosed over and disenfranchised just engage in bush justice. I mean it would have to get worse still but the train track seems pretty much like a downwards whirlpool at this point.
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DancingShade posted:At some point if this keeps up and the LNP pig snouters ever leave their silver palaces in the cities I wouldn't be surprised if some of the severely hosed over and disenfranchised just engage in bush justice. I think this too, but then I remember the enormous amount of poo poo people on welfare eat in the US without shooting their politicians.
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Apr 6, 2017 09:29
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JBP posted:The problem is that right now it's the only industry motoring hard to make the economy grow. I understand the ideological problems with the statement I've made, but it's true and it's what people care about. You'd be better off just paying people to burn money tbh with the subsidies that coal and extractives in general get. Cut out the middle man.
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Apr 6, 2017 09:34
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How much energy is in a $5 note anyway? Both in how much energy it costs to create, and what is released when burnt.
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Apr 6, 2017 09:40
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Every time I click on the Finland thread, they're talking about Muslims. 
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Starshark posted:I think this too, but then I remember the enormous amount of poo poo people on welfare eat in the US without shooting their politicians. You wouldn't need to shoot anyone. Hence bush justice. You just thump and dump without a cell phone, let the bush take care of matters. If you don't know what this would mean then you haven't been in the outback. Not that I am suggesting anything of the kind of course.
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DancingShade posted:You wouldn't need to shoot anyone. Hence bush justice. Oh, I've never heard the term 'bush justice' I thought it was just another way of saying 'shoot the bastard'.
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Starshark posted:Oh, I've never heard the term 'bush justice' I thought it was just another way of saying 'shoot the bastard'. Well lets not popularise it or everyone will want to do it.
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I always thought "Bush Justice" was what Barnaby Joyce whispered to himself in a sultry voice when he stands in front of a mirror with sunglasses and a Tom Selleck moustache.
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Well-off Australians are slashing their personal tax bills at a cost of billions of dollars a year to other taxpayers through the widening use of secretive family trusts. But while trusts are flourishing, and the government is battling a big budget deficit, neither the Coalition nor Labor has tackled what critics describe as the "sacred ground" of tax minimisation. Unpublished figures provided exclusively to Fairfax Media by the Australian Taxation Office reveal almost 643,000 discretionary trusts (most family trusts are this kind) in Australia in the 2014-15 financial year, the most recent year for which figures are available. That is almost twice the number of 20 years earlier, an increase that far outstrips population growth. The increase is likely to have been sharper in the two years since 2015 as other popular tax minimisation options – superannuation and negative gearing in particular – come under heavy political pressure, and financial planners and accountants market trusts as an alternative. Trusts come in different forms, including fixed and unit trusts. In total there were 824,000 trusts in 2015 according to the tax office. Some are dedicated to charitable and community purposes, including caring for children and those with disabilities. But discretionary trusts, which are used to manage investments including property and to run businesses of all sizes, are promoted for their preferential tax treatment. Australian Bureau of Statistics data indicates that while discretionary trusts are often used for small and medium businesses, trust wealth is heavily skewed to the richest Australians. Almost 90 per cent of trust assets are held by the wealthiest 20 per cent of income earners. While rarely mentioned in recent tax and revenue debates, discretionary trusts are a substantial part of the Australian economy. The unpublished tax office data shows they hold assets upwards of $600 billion, and generate profit of almost $80 billion. The key to the popularity of discretionary trusts is the flexibility which allows high-income breadwinners to split trust income and distribute it to family members on low incomes and low tax rates – adult children at university for example. In the process, the high-income earner slashes their own tax liability. The distribution of income can be varied each year. So, if a child leaves university and secures a well-paid job, their share can be transferred to a younger brother starting university, or a retired grandmother. Exactly how much tax is paid nationwide on income from trusts is unclear. The opacity of trusts means information is limited. Where companies are required to put information about directors, shareholders and company finances (for larger firms) into the public domain, there is no equivalent for trusts. Surprisingly, the tax office is unable to say how much trust beneficiaries pay in tax. But Fairfax Media has established that at least one key federal agency estimates that tax paid by trust beneficiaries is about 25 per cent of profits - well below the marginal tax rates that those who control the trusts would otherwise be paying. In a new analysis for Fairfax Media, University of NSW tax law expert Dale Boccabella has "conservatively" estimated the level of foregone tax revenue at $2 billion a year. graphic He said trusts were widely used to minimise tax and for "asset protection" which, he said, was code for people either avoiding debts or depriving a divorcing partner of their fair share of joint property. "When the overwhelming use of the discretionary trust is tax minimisation, defeating creditors and frustrating divorcing spouses of their fair property rights, the case for a comprehensive review of the institution of the discretionary trust is pretty strong." The Coalition and Labor do not have policy positions on trusts and taxation. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Treasurer Scott Morrison were approached to provide comment for this story and their personal views about trusts. Neither has responded. The powerful rural lobby is often seen as the major obstacle to trust reform because farmers often use trusts for succession planning and protecting farm assets. Its political clout is reflected in the Greens' current policy of taxing trusts like companies, with farming trusts exempted. The Tax Institute is the professional association for tax specialists including accountants, lawyers and tax agents. Its senior tax counsel Bob Deutsch said superannuation, property and share investment using borrowed funds, and trusts, had long been the favoured tax-planning options in Australia. "What has happened over the course of the last decade is that super has to some extent lost its mojo – both super and negative gearing seem to be in the firing line one way or another," said Deutsch. "That leaves you with the third leg of the tripod which is discretionary trusts. It's an area that will be more and more in focus." 
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henry the fuckin eighth called he's upset about users or some poo poo
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I'll always remember when I worked for Centrelink and they changed the way trusts were assessed for youth allowance. This guy called up about his son's payment and said "You can't ask for that information! It's invading my privacy!" so I explained Centrelink can ask for whatever the gently caress they want (in bureaucratese, of course). Then he says, "Well, he doesn't want the payment then! Cancel it!" like he was never going to do business with our company ever again. The entitlement some of these fuckers have is just breath-taking.
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My friend had a bunch of trouble with centrelink, because her dad had a trust that he was supposedly paying her with, but it was just a huge tax rort for his company and he wouldn't fill out any paper work saying he wasn't paying her. Luckily she could prove she and he were estranged.
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Starshark posted:I'll always remember when I worked for Centrelink and they changed the way trusts were assessed for youth allowance. This guy called up about his son's payment and said "You can't ask for that information! It's invading my privacy!" so I explained Centrelink can ask for whatever the gently caress they want (in bureaucratese, of course). Then he says, "Well, he doesn't want the payment then! Cancel it!" like he was never going to do business with our company ever again. The entitlement some of these fuckers have is just breath-taking. I think my Trusts lecturer got into working in trusts because he said he couldn't get youth allowance but all his friends whose parents had farms in a trust could.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:My friend had a bunch of trouble with centrelink, because her dad had a trust that he was supposedly paying her with, but it was just a huge tax rort for his company and he wouldn't fill out any paper work saying he wasn't paying her. Luckily she could prove she and he were estranged. Probably wasn't loving hard.
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Note to self. Start a trust?
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Starshark posted:Probably wasn't loving hard. Nah, bit like that hey?
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Anidav posted:Note to self. Start a trust? No.
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Starshark posted:I think this too, but then I remember the enormous amount of poo poo people on welfare eat in the US without shooting their politicians. Didn't someone assassinate a senator the other year?
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Konomex posted:Didn't someone assassinate a senator the other year? If you're thinking of the Dylann Roof one, the motive for that was nothing to do with welfare. Unless it was, 'blacks get too much of it'.
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Apr 6, 2017 14:21
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Nah there was another one. She survived though. Now Republicans are using her as an excuse for why they won't go to town halls and she called them all wimps.
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Konomex posted:Didn't someone assassinate a senator the other year? A white supremacist brexit supporter killed a British MP.
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Don't worry once Dutton does a coup de gras on Trumpbull and takes over as PM with his loyal army of blackshirts that only answer to him (because like gently caress he'll appoint anyone else to being in charge of Border Force, he'll just add it to his portfolio as PM) I'm sure everything will be just fine. Any historical parallels come to mind? Think Dutton can keep the trains running on time?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Nah there was another one. She survived though. Now Republicans are using her as an excuse for why they won't go to town halls and she called them all wimps. That sounds like the Tucson shooting (with Gabrielle Gifford), and we'll never really know why that one went down. The guy was anti-government but also schizophrenic. I'm not saying either was the sole cause, just a little from column a and a little from column b.
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DancingShade posted:Think Dutton can keep the trains running on time? Only if they can run on biofuel.
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DancingShade posted:Don't worry once Dutton does a coup de gras on Trumpbull and takes over as PM with his loyal army of blackshirts that only answer to him (because like gently caress he'll appoint anyone else to being in charge of Border Force, he'll just add it to his portfolio as PM) I'm sure everything will be just fine. Thankfully Dutton is a person who has not only the looks but the charisma, intelligence and wit of a potato. I would say charm as well but that's probably being very unfair to the humble potato.
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See, I only have to mention senators getting assassinated and we get a bunch of examples from two separate countries. Also, there were those death threats the WA libs got over ruining a person's life with their lovely fiscal policies.
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 ---------------- I don't support the murder of politicians - just the rich
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Nah there was another one. She survived though. Now Republicans are using her as an excuse for why they won't go to town halls and she called them all wimps. She also never stopped doing town halls/public appearances. Republicans are wimps.
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BBJoey posted:looking forward to lowtax shutting down auspol when we get investigated by asio Considering how the average Aussie talks they would need to investigate the majority of the country, all the time, for everything.
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