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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:You read this, please tell me what it says The model wasn't wrong though. It gave Trump a non-zero chance of winning and he won. Model works. Spunky dumb.
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Again, that's not a poll. That's a forecast based on a bunch of things, which is why it is so hilariously wrong (98%) when national polls were, on average, +3 to Clinton. Answer my question: can you acknowledge that Trump had less people vote for him than Killary Klinton? Cthulu Carl posted:The model wasn't wrong though. It gave Trump a non-zero chance of winning and he won. Huffington Post-bot: You have less than a 2% chance! Trump: Never tell me the odds!
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Everyone knows huffpo is loving trash anyway
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Knight posted:Again, that's not a poll. That's a forecast based on a bunch of things, which is why it is so hilariously wrong (98%) when national polls were, on average, +3 to Clinton. If it helps you sleep at night, sure, Hillary won the popular vote
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Apr 6, 2017 16:49
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Why do people think the popular vote matters in the first place?
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lol why didnt u dummys vote for the lizard person???? that maddow trump victory video is awesome
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bring back old gbs posted:lol why didnt u dummys vote for the lizard person???? I couldn't even watch thirty seconds she's annoying as gently caress
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Blue Train posted:I couldn't even watch thirty seconds she's annoying as gently caress she looks like at least 5 of my grade school teachers, i think they come from a factory in canada
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Sentient Data posted:Why do people think the popular vote matters in the first place? Because its moving the goalposts back. Focusing on tactics that get you extra votes in California and New York is not a viable campaign strategy. Their endgame is Hillary 2020, because they're hoping to run her on the "cheated out of the presidency angle" because their only other viable candidates are a bunch of old party ruling holdovers and candidates that are just non-viable on a national level - shitheads like Corey Booker and Elizabeth Warren would get melted in the first month of primaries.
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Apr 6, 2017 16:58
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:If it helps you sleep at night, sure, Hillary won the popular vote Sentient Data posted:Why do people think the popular vote matters in the first place?
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Apr 6, 2017 16:59
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Both candidates are bourgie scum and Hillary wouldn't have helped you either.
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Knight posted:Ok, then the polls were correct that more people would vote for Hillary than Trump, and since they were accurate should probably earn them a little trust when gauging public opinion. Say what you will about media outlets terrible models and wrong predictions, they deserve it. It seriously harmed their credibility when talking about what can/will happen in future events. http://time.com/4561625/electoral-college-predictions/ Can you stop quibbling already jesus this is a waste of energy Time loving magazine no popular vote being mentioned here bud 
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Apr 6, 2017 17:00
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COMRADES posted:Both candidates are bourgie scum and Hillary wouldn't have helped you either.
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Apr 6, 2017 17:01
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lovely Wizard posted:Because its moving the goalposts back. Focusing on tactics that get you extra votes in California and New York is not a viable campaign strategy. I've seen multiple people suggest Chelsea should run smfh
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Apr 6, 2017 17:02
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I didn't even want to have to find and upload a picture of how wrong predictions were but Knight wouldn't shut the hell up about something he's so obviously wrong about
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Blue Train posted:I've seen multiple people suggest Chelsea should run smfh They'll only run her if Hillary is dead or immobilized due to health problems, even if she had to use a wheelchair and regularly undergo health exams they'd probably still try to run Hillary and get the news to compare her to FDR (at least FDR cared enough to try to hide it with crutches and strategic photo ops, they'd just plop Hillary in the chair and tell the 'journalists' to compare her to FDR). Also people should remember that the news media had a vested interested in keeping democrats in power because of all the free access they were getting for meaningless fluff stories that tugged off the administration's collective dick while simultaneously generating tons of clicks, and when compared to doing actual journalism they'll prefer to just keep focusing on petty Trump attacks since that's the new easy gravy train. Motherfucking Buzzfeed, a clickbait site, got regular access to the administration including Obama himself.
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lovely Wizard posted:Motherfucking Buzzfeed, a clickbait site, got regular access to the administration including Obama himself. lol Alex Jones Go back to /pol/ and hate on disabled people there.
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:http://time.com/4561625/electoral-college-predictions/ Polling is real, and strong, and it's my friend.
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COMRADES posted:lol Alex Jones Trump shows up on any or will do any interview, that's one of the reasons he got a lot of coverage early on. No publicity is bad publicity, even when you do interviews with the gay frogs and "GOBLINS" guy. Go back to reddit and exchange jailbaits with your similars.
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Apr 6, 2017 17:11
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lovely Wizard posted:Trump shows up on any or will do any interview, that's one of the reasons he got a lot of coverage early on. He's literally giving preferential treatment to an internet crazy person while you're mad that the Dems gave access to clickbait websites. They're basically the same thing but lol OBAMA right?
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:I don't care about Trump or Bannon or whatever. They either come through or they don't. I care about results. We're in a bad spot in this country and it's being hidden from you. We're coasting on a giant bubble. We need something to be there to fill the void once this thing goes POP, because barista jobs ain't gonna cut it This is really interesting to me - I told people over and over that we were choosing a patsy for the next depression, so why choose the incompetent option just because it's different? I got back that people were under the impression that because Trump spoke like they felt, he would be able to solve the problem, and more of the same wouldn't fix things. But Trump even being able to run as a 0-experience wacko populist is a symptom of how much we paper over the suck in this culture. Do you really think anyone to the right of Huey Long is going to get up and tear off the lies and get results for the common man at this point, or that corpocongress would allow it without a purge? A Trump vote was like pissing into the wind to spite the clouds, now we're all a Russian hotel bed.
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Knight posted:What is that supposed to show me? No popular vote is being mentioned, because those are "the projections of economic and political analysts". It's a prediction, not a poll. No matter how many times you quote a major media outlet saying "All of us Predict a Hillary Victory" and describe their bad model results won't change the fact that national polling had Hillary at +3 and were proven right when the final vote came in with 3M more votes than Trump. Lol, ok man. Polls are bullshit and people vote a bunch of times, they throw out data they don't want and fudge the numbers, and they phrase questions to get certain results. They have call lists of people they know that vote one way or another. But you keep believing the mighty polls. It sounds like you're a real fan of poll
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COMRADES posted:He's literally giving preferential treatment to an internet crazy person while you're mad that the Dems gave access to clickbait websites. I'm not mad at the dems, I'm mad at the clickbait sites stupid. Well I'm mad at the dems too for a lot of reasons. You're going to get Hillary vs Trump again for 2020, so pick your vote now.
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Lol, ok man. Polls are bullshit and people vote a bunch of times, they throw out data they don't want and fudge the numbers, and they phrase questions to get certain results. They have call lists of people they know that vote one way or another. 
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You guys are morons for disagreeing with Spunky on this. I dislike Trump but the media is a pile of lying trash that keeps us looking at dumb poo poo arguing so this country is always run horribly.
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lovely Wizard posted:I'm not mad at the dems, I'm mad at the clickbait sites stupid. I think the Dems are a bunch of morons but lol Hillary isn't running as the Dem candidate again no matter how hard it makes your dick to fantasize about it. lovely Wizard posted:Go back to reddit and exchange jailbaits with your similars. 
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Runaktla posted:You guys are morons for disagreeing with Spunky on this. Trump is also a dumb pile of lying trash. By choosing him as the exemplar of anti-media sentiment, America has given the media even more reason to behave that way.
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Runaktla posted:You guys are morons for disagreeing with Spunky on this. The healing cannot begin until people start admitting some obvious truths
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COMRADES posted:I think the Dems are a bunch of morons but lol Hillary isn't running as the Dem candidate again no matter how hard it makes your dick to fantasize about it. She is 100% going to run again, Joe Biden is a piece of poo poo but they might be able to try to run him against her in 2020 but who knows for certain. People can buy avatars for people here, I'm not paying $5 to replace an avatar.
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I bet you Kamala Harris runs. Dunno if she'd win but she'd probably beat the others in the primary.
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Runaktla posted:You guys are morons for disagreeing with Spunky on this. The worst part of this is people just hate Trump so much they've decided to start liking the CIA, mainstream media, and status quo government.
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"Thank god Bannon's out of there, now we can get some no name entrenched government zombie career politician that has been voting yes to napalming browns for 15 years"
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Also like 50% of this thread isn't even American so I don't even know why they have an opinion We really should have little national flags next to names so we know who to entirely ignore in American politics threads
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lovely Wizard posted:Because its moving the goalposts back. Focusing on tactics that get you extra votes in California and New York is not a viable campaign strategy. i will run for president and my policies will be everyone gets health care and all right wing nationalists will be rounded up and processed
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:We really should have little national flags next to names so we know who to entirely ignore in American politics threads It's like, why are they telling me about the healthcare I pay for every month? Why are they telling me who is popular and who isn't? They have no idea what is happening here
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COMRADES posted:I bet you Kamala Harris runs. Dunno if she'd win but she'd probably beat the others in the primary. If Hillary wants to be president the lane will be cleared for her so she can lose to trump again.
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I wonder if anyone in the Trump administration or the Republican party is going to figure out that their/his sinking poll numbers is entirely about his slow transformation into a extra shabby regular Republican. Like if they could deliver 10% populism to 90% republican garbage, they could rule for a decade. Instead their going 100% Paul Ryan fiscal conservative corporate hand job nonsense. Guaranteeing they'll be out of power in 4 years after accomplishing nothing and probably provoking a backlash that puts them much worse then where they started.
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COMRADES posted:I bet you Kamala Harris runs. Dunno if she'd win but she'd probably beat the others in the primary. All I knew is she got elected in November, but looking her up and she seems to be a standard 'presidential hopeful' liberal sort of candidate. Anti-death penalty and pro-illegal immigration guarantee a lot of republicans and conservative leaning independents will hate her though. The democrats need someone who will be willing to throw everyone before them under the bus, Trump poo poo on Jeb for George W Bush letting 9/11 happen while Hillary refused to say anything against Obama when directly pressed on it by Trump during the debates.
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