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Rynder posted:For the aftermath split cards, since they're considered instant/sorceries, can i say, counter the cast of the instant part of it with warping wail? https://twitter.com/TabakRules/status/850133022015758336
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xanthan posted:Am I missing something? Yahenni gets a bonus when something your opponent controls dies and saccing gets it indescribable. i misread the card but anything thats "sac this, this gets +1/x" can go in that spot.
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Jabor posted:You're being attacked by a toolcraft exemplar, a nerd ape, and this guy. You have a 3/3. Are you just going to take 7 and not block anything ever? "this card is really good if you have a ton of action and your opponent doesn't" isn't exactly a strong selling point
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little munchkin posted:Just saying if the format is full of creatures and your gameplan is "play a bunch of removal spells that don't actually kill those creatures, plus this 1/2 dude" your gameplan sucks rear end I believe its your point that sucks rear end.
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its me glenda posted:i misread the card but anything thats "sac this, this gets +1/x" can go in that spot. add zulaport cut throat to the combo earlier posted. forget fling ZCT just wins the game outright. bw aristocats. STING 64 fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Apr 7, 2017 |
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little munchkin posted:"this card is really good if you have a ton of action and your opponent doesn't" isn't exactly a strong selling point It's a 1/2 with prowess for one red mana it would probably see play in Standard if it had no other abilities, the fact that it can allow you to push through a Heart or Kalitas is just gravy.
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its me glenda posted:add zulaport cut throat to the combo earlier posted. So 3 different ways to turn kind of weak creaures into a win out of nowhere... Amazing. Any other combos with the cat? Can we somehow make a deck full of nothing but cat combos?
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so yahenni can still be here since the goal is to kill with ZCT... so yeah as long as zulaport and either yahenni or salvager (preferably yahenni since he can protect himself with indestructible) and lili are on board, dropping the cat is a win. obviously longer and more obtuse to set up than just regular copycat, but it'd be not as expected for sure.
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I'm not sure what the incentive is in building a 4 card combo deck that needs to play out multiple 4+ drops most of which aren't individually powerful in a standard format with a 2 card combo with a 3 drop and a 4 drop that also gets to run reasonable cards giving it a good backup plan.
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xanthan posted:So 3 different ways to turn kind of weak creaures into a win out of nowhere... Amazing. Any other combos with the cat? Can we somehow make a deck full of nothing but cat combos? 5 color cat combo with marvel.
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So I played another Standard Throwback league. Got Suicide Black. Faced off against three different White Weenie opponents. gently caress off WotC. e: welp just after posting this I got Forbiddian so all is forgiven.
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Hellsau posted:So I played another Standard Throwback league. Got Suicide Black. Faced off against three different White Weenie opponents. gently caress off WotC. whymodostillsucks.txt
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Hellsau posted:So I played another Standard Throwback league. Got Suicide Black. Faced off against three different White Weenie opponents. gently caress off WotC. White Weenie seems really good. I haven't lost so far with it.
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Oh curses are back, neat.
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Is that a control deck win-con, or just too expensive?
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is that a control deck win-con, or just too expensive? It's a 7 mana permanent that lets your opponents choose what they're sacrificing. It's way too slow, unless there's some kind of cute Curse synergy.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is that a control deck win-con, or just too expensive? It's pretty close to just being a difficult-to-remove 5/5. I don't think we've ever had a 7-drop finisher ever be good enough just on the back of being difficult to remove. Pearl Lake Ancient is the closest I can think of, but it was a faster clock, couldn't be countered, and had flash. I think this card is probably bad.
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It seems okay if you can gum up the board bad enough, and BG can ramp into it. But on the other hand it still won't win you the game until turn eight or something so might as well just play a big dude instead.
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Or your opponent just plays a Gideon and +0's every turn. Seems kinda bad, probably unbeatable if you land it in limited though.
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I'm glad there's a watermarked story card for the moment the white main character is righteously offended by the black natives' practices, judging them by his own standards.
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To be fair they weren't the native's practices until Bolas brainwashed them all. I will presume Bolas is not white though he is an imperialist.
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 Sorcery If Approach of the Second Sun was cast from your hand and you already cast another spell named Approach of the Second Sun in this game, you win the game. If not, put Approach of the Second Sun in its owner's library seven cards from the top and you gain 7 life.
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Walked posted:
That's going to be obnoxious in limited.
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Walked posted:
Interesting I'll give it that. I want to see the face of someone who casts it, then seven turns later doesn't know what happened because they cracked an evolving wilds in the interim. Weak card displaying interesting design, might be stupid in EDH.
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Is the translation off, or does it get around countermagic? It only talks about being cast, it doesn't sound like it needs to resolve to actually do anything. You get the "put back in library" on casting.
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C-Euro posted:Is the translation off, or does it get around countermagic? It only talks about being cast, it doesn't sound like it needs to resolve to actually do anything. You get the "put back in library" on casting. What makes you think that? It's part of the resolution of the spell just like everything else. Now, the check for whether you cast one earlier in the game, that won't care whether or not the prior one(s) was countered. But the one that wins you the game definitely needs to get through in order to, well, win you the game.
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C-Euro posted:Is the translation off, or does it get around countermagic? It only talks about being cast, it doesn't sound like it needs to resolve to actually do anything. You get the "put back in library" on casting. It doesn't say "when you cast ~" so it's on resolution. The "win the game" condition doesn't care if the previous cast resolved though
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BJPaskoff posted:That's going to be obnoxious in limited.
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Ein Sexmonster posted:If by obnoxious you mean unplayable outside of joke decks, yea. yea 7 mana is usually a deal-breaker for strong cards that affect the board, let alone a card that takes 7 more turns to have an impact
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little munchkin posted:yea 7 mana is usually a deal-breaker for strong cards that affect the board, let alone a card that takes 7 more turns to have an impact Yeah. Especially in Limited, "wins the game in 7 turns if left unanswered" is not an uncommon resume for a 4 or 5 mana card to have, let alone 7. The one thing about this card is that the potential answers to it are much narrower (can't block it or remove it) but it also doesn't affect the board so that's probably still not a net positive
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Walked posted:
Activate Marvel, cast this, put it 7 from the top, pass, next turn, untap, draw, now 6 from the top, activate Marvel, look at the top 6, cast this, win. I'm sure that won't be a common thing at all.
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ThePeavstenator posted:Activate Marvel, cast this, put it 7 from the top, pass, next turn, untap, draw, now 6 from the top, activate Marvel, look at the top 6, cast this, win. I'm sure that won't be a common thing at all. If you're casting it off Marvel, you're not casting it from your hand.
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Jabor posted:If you're casting it off Marvel, you're not casting it from your hand. didn't see that 
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Can't you Marvel, on upkeep marvel to remove 6 then draw it then cast again? E: I mean I know it's 7 Mana, but just checking that's how it would work, be shuffled to point 7, marvel lets you look at top 6 then put on bottom, thus it's next card Stormgale fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Apr 7, 2017 |
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mcmagic posted:
A solid 2-for-1 even if your opponent has answers, and an even bigger house if they don't. Just getting to eat tokens is pretty amazing too. (If you're playing the mirror, you'll want to be the second one to embalm their copy...) The statline is a bit undersized. There's a notable 4/4 flyer with useful abilities for 3WW running around the format still...
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Jabor posted:A solid 2-for-1 even if your opponent has answers, and an even bigger house if they don't. Just getting to eat tokens is pretty amazing too. (If you're playing the mirror, you'll want to be the second one to embalm their copy...) I want to self mill the poo poo out of this... (And then cheat it back in with Liliana) mcmagic fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Apr 7, 2017 |
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mcmagic posted:I want to self mill the poo poo out of this...
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mcmagic posted:I want to self mill the poo poo out of this... A dev article said there will not be efficient self mill spells like Grapple or Commune with the Gods in this set, just FYI.
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