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Lol Libya wasn't a Russian client state what the gently caress are you smoking. Libya has been under Russia's sphere of influence since the late 60s. Just look at how Putin had a poo poo fit after the US killed Ghadaffi. The Iran-US nuclear deal was also the US gaining influence in a place that has historically been close to Russia. Russia is where they buy their weapons. ????????
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That's why Russia is backing Assad. Without Syria they lose AGAIN to Uncle Sam ( and the west) n the Middle East
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There's that true story about some guy's dog diving into a hot spring and starts yelping because it's boiling under the surface, and one guy is going to go in to save the dog and everyone' like "No don't" and he's all "like hell I'm just going to sit here and watch that dog die" and dives in after him. Anyway, his last words after being dragged out by others, blinded and with third degree burns all over his body and his skin peeling off, were "that was really stupid...That was a stupid thing I did." The dog still died. I feel this story reflects on the sorry state of US involvement in the middle east.
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Knight posted:There's that true story about some guy's dog diving into a hot spring and starts yelping because it's boiling under the surface, and one guy is going to go in to save the dog and everyone' like "No don't" and he's all "like hell I'm just going to sit here and watch that dog die" and dives in after him. Anyway, his last words after being dragged out by others, blinded and with third degree burns all over his body and his skin peeling off, were "that was really stupid...That was a stupid thing I did." The dog still died. So browns are dogs? Because if you replace "dog" with "little kid" the guy is a hero
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Apr 7, 2017 19:27
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:So browns are dogs? Because if you replace "dog" with "little kid" the guy is a hero I prefer heroes that actually saved someone
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Apr 7, 2017 19:31
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:So browns are dogs? Because if you replace "dog" with "little kid" the guy is a hero Here's a better analogy: it's like sticking your dick in a light socket. Sure it seems like a good idea at the time, but there are completely unforeseeable consequences later
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:So browns are dogs? Because if you replace "dog" with "little kid" the guy is a hero I'm trying to express more of a feeling of powerlessness to make any meaningful change and most likely causing more damage by intervening but the alternative is heartlessly standing by and just watching it happen. Military action leads to escalation and usually regime change, destabilizing the region, a vacuum of power, insurgency, and the cycle continues. Relief and aid can only stem the bleeding. So it goes.
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Apr 7, 2017 19:34
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Knight posted:There's that true story about some guy's dog diving into a hot spring and starts yelping because it's boiling under the surface, and one guy is going to go in to save the dog and everyone' like "No don't" and he's all "like hell I'm just going to sit here and watch that dog die" and dives in after him. Anyway, his last words after being dragged out by others, blinded and with third degree burns all over his body and his skin peeling off, were "that was really stupid...That was a stupid thing I did." The dog still died. Stealing this. It's perfect.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Lol Libya wasn't a Russian client state what the gently caress are you smoking. Libya has been under Russia's sphere of influence since the late 60s. Just look at how Putin had a poo poo fit after the US killed Ghadaffi. It never has been. Qaddafi's foreign policy was eclectic. He dabbled in pan-Arabism, and pan-Africanism, but Libya was never a client state of the USSR, despite their healthy weapons trade. Putin didn't have a poo poo fit, he and his government expressed the same sort of Westphalian reservations and critiques they do whenever the West does something ridiculously hypocritical on the world stage. Here's what I pulled from Wikipedia: Russia – Special envoy Mikhail Margelov warned that the war could continue in spite of Gaddafi's death.[53] Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the killing of Gaddafi violated the Geneva Conventions prohibiting summary execution of prisoners of war.[54] Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said "All the world saw him being killed, all bloodied. Is that democracy? And who did it? Drones, including American ones, delivered a strike on his motorcade. Then commandos, who were not supposed to be there, brought in so-called opposition and militants. And killed him without trial",[55] Igor Barinov, the vice-chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense stated that methods of dealing with Gaddafi and the subsequent reaction of western leaders reminds the darkest episodes of Middle Ages than contemporary operations of democracy development. We have the same influence in Iran as we had before the deal- zero. If anything, they respect us less.
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Knight posted:And if you replace "dog" with "Hitler" then the man is a Nazi! Its more like a bag of money fell in the hot springs and the dude that owes everything to the banks pushes in bystanders one after another until its so choked with corpses he can easily grab the sack of money
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Apr 7, 2017 19:38
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Its more like a bag of money fell in the hot springs and the dude that owes everything to the banks pushes in bystanders one after another until its so choked with corpses he can easily grab the sack of money 
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Trump is a hack fraud
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In related news, looks like that brilliant plan to have Russia dispose of Syria's WMDs has come full circle. http://freebeacon.com/national-security/politifact-retracts-mostly-true-ruling-u-s-removed-100-percent-syrias-chemical-weapons/
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Nut to Butt posted:In related news, looks like that brilliant plan to have Russia dispose of Syria's WMDs has come full circle. Lol owned
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Apr 7, 2017 20:14
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a bone to pick posted:Trump is a hack fraud Nice meltdown. Trump's fine.
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a bone to pick posted:Trump is a hack fraud That's right Jay
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Nut to Butt posted:Those examples weren't cherry-picked, they were the major instances where our respective "national interests" (bearing in mind what I said earlier about US foreign policy) collided. Libya wasn't a Russian client state, and Qaddafi came in from the cold during the Bush administration right after we turbofucked Saddam. Obama and Hillary's misadventures in Libya eviscerated our influence in that country. The influence of Russia in Iran was increased by the nuclear deal (which amounted to 100% American surrender on all issues) because Russia is the nation supplying Iran with uranium for their "peaceful" energy program under that very deal, and now the Russians are selling the Iranians tons of weaponry. Afghanistan? loving what? The Taliban was a creature of Pakistan, not Russia, and Russia has loved our involvement there because they've been able to weaken us by supporting the Taliban, while simultaneously selling us airbase access and the like. Obama's foreign policy was a loving joke, and it's because he and his people had no conception of American interests while concurrently believing themselves smarter than everyone else in the world (who actually did have a conception of their national interests). Huge loving shocker, they got played for fools across the board, again and again, by everyone who bothered to try. He was about to murder a city filled with his own people tho The tanks were basically rolling when we struck. The only crime in Libya was our piss poor effort as assisting the new government. Ten times more spent on airstrikes (which are themselves self indulgent toy war) than on rebuilding a functional country. E: And no, Libya was not a functional country beforehand as evidenced by the fact people preferred armed revolt to living under a tinpot nobody. Strategic Tea fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Apr 7, 2017 |
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Yea he ran that poo poo from 1970 to 2011 but it was non-functional and he was a nobody
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Prorat posted:So now he's a globalist? I thought he was a Muslim hating, European hating, Pope hating, Mexican hating, racist nationalist that only cares about America and wants to surround the country with a giant wall... He's literally not anything you retard, but he stoked those flames so he could ride into power cause he doesn't give a gently caress about anything except making money and appearance. Anyone who looks at trump and sees any sort of coherent narrative beyond that are projecting, regardless of what side they're on. He's a dumb piece of poo poo with such an incomprehensibly blank worldview that anyone can put a label on him and it'll stick reasonably well You idiots elected an utterly incompetent narcissist moron and even when you admit it you try to frame it like it's tearing down the system or some other accelerationist bullshit when it's really just making the world that much worse. Good job you miserable stupid oval office Here's a video of the hardy Boyz returning at wrestlemania [video type="youtu"]p5uy9ciZLvM[/video]
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if you supported obamas intervention in libya or trumps intervention in syria you're a globalist imperialist, instead of being smart and realized Qaddafi owned hard.
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Lol at everyone sitting around trying to pretend actual human conflict is like Gondor vs orcs and poo poo. Trump sucks poo poo. Assad sucks poo poo. If trump boots assad its a good thing done by a poo poo sucker. But whaaaaa who is the good guy/bad guy? How does this make the other political party wrong!? When do I get my gold star for voting Trump?
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Piss de Bundy posted:if you supported obamas intervention in libya or trumps intervention in syria you're a globalist imperialist, instead of being smart and realized Qaddafi owned hard.
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bag em and tag em posted:Lol at everyone sitting around trying to pretend actual human conflict is like Gondor vs orcs and poo poo. Trump sucks poo poo. Assad sucks poo poo. If trump boots assad its a good thing done by a poo poo sucker. Trump's hardcore base is in absolute disgust over this
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Prorat posted:Dude. Trump voters don't have waifu pillows, they have jobs and pick up trucks and real lives that don't exist on the internet. Ya know, real lives. I thought Trump voters were all jobless midwesterners who voted for Trump because he was going to give them jobs.
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Apr 7, 2017 21:21
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Trump's hardcore base is in absolute disgust over this Who cares?
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bag em and tag em posted:Who cares? They wanted to stay out of wars of imperialism, isn't that gold star worthy
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Oh so you're all fine with dead babies??????
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Piss de Bundy posted:if you supported obamas intervention in libya or trumps intervention in syria you're a globalist imperialist, instead of being smart and realized Qaddafi owned hard. But Gadaffi claimed authority over his people by brutal force and embezzled their money. Why is that not imperialist? Keeping in mind that Westphalian sovereignty is a completely arbitrary idea. And that Westphalia is in eeeevill imperialist Europe~~~
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:They wanted to stay out of wars of imperialism, isn't that gold star worthy No. No one wins. No points are awarded.
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he's really done it this time, boys!
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Piss de Bundy posted:if you supported obamas intervention in libya or trumps intervention in syria you're a globalist imperialist, instead of being smart and realized Qaddafi owned hard. Qadaffi was stomped out for leading a successful socialist state and wanting to create a pan-african currency. The place went from having the highest GDP in Africa to being another destabilized hell hole. 
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WatermelonGun posted:Qadaffi was stomped out for leading a successful socialist state and wanting to create a pan-african currency. The place went from having the highest GDP in Africa to being another destabilized hell hole. Here's your precious queen on that situation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM
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WatermelonGun posted:Qadaffi was stomped out for leading a successful socialist state and wanting to create a pan-african currency. The place went from having the highest GDP in Africa to being another destabilized hell hole. Thanks, Islam
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Piss de Bundy posted:if you supported obamas intervention in libya or trumps intervention in syria you're a globalist imperialist, instead of being smart and realized Qaddafi owned hard. Qaddafi's invasion of the Auozou Strip was pretty loving imperialist and did not own.
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folandi posted:Qaddafi's invasion of the Auozou Strip was pretty loving imperialist and did not own. He was uniting fellow Africans
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WatermelonGun posted:Qadaffi was stomped out for leading a successful socialist state and wanting to create a pan-african currency. The place went from having the highest GDP in Africa to being another destabilized hell hole. If it was successful why was it overthrown in a populist revolution. Like you don't get to go 'it's not fairrr' when you are overthrown. If you are overthrown you are failing to run the country. Also have u ever been gang raped in a political prison?
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Strategic Tea posted:
Finally some content. What was it like?
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lmao why is the republican shooting missiles in the middle east?!? he said he wouldnt!!!
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