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What was your favorite Titan from Titanfall 1?
gundam
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Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


Yup like I said I think the biggest problem is the wage stagnation. It means games need to be viewed at a certain price point.

I mean you know one of the biggest arguments is that game prices have not increased with inflation. Well they cant afford to because consumers wages have only barely increased with inflation and so everything else is taking that extra increase, and consumers still probably have the same amount of income for entertainment.

Season passes and gold edition of games plus those $200 statue edition of games is how they make the extra money.

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BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



If the IMC paid us a bit more we could afford these robits

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I support raising both the minimum wage and the price of games, what is that platform called

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Wowporn posted:

I support raising both the minimum wage and the price of games, what is that platform called

The Neckbeard epeen party.



I will be on on PS4 shortly to play with tits and fall.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



veni veni veni posted:

I think the carrot on a stick stuff is fine as long as it isn't intrusive to the gameplay, which can be a fine line. Look back at when TLOU came out and people would literally sabotage the team because of the stupid meta game. If it's just getting fake money to unlock cosmetic stuff or something, whatever.

I don't agree with his point because I believe TF2 is intended to be full of that stuff and only isn't due to the low player count. poo poo, even now it's not absent from the game. If the game was huge I fully believe we'd be blasted with loot boxes every time we logged on. I could be wrong but that's my take.

Also, from what I've seen of Overwatch it isn't really offensive at all. You know I also have zero interest in that game, but I don't really get why you are always calling it the worst game ever lol. It seems fine it just has nothing for me right now. Blizzard isn't a bad dev they just try to mass market their appeal so much I've pretty much lost interest in their games. Starcraft is good I guess.

I don't care about loot at all either though.
I'd rather just play a good game.

I guess my point was that this hypothetical restraint with 'digital baubles' on Respawn's part does actually show in the game's design, and there isn't actually any indication that if TF2 sold twice as much we'd be getting treasure chests galore, or even near the amount of content that a studio like Blizzard is capable of sustaining under that model. Not that it's any bother to me, but Respawn didn't exactly ship a game that boasts a create-a-character feature, they tied your specific pilot's look to a character class. They seem to have intentionally downplayed the ceremony of Advocate Gifts. Even the mission select screen for single player seems like something pulled from 2001 when Halo was shiny and new. The gameplay itself hearkens back to PC shooters of another era when skill-based movement was in style (something that inherently culls your playerbase), and there are dozens of in-jokes and nods to seminal FPS games from decades past. Hell, even having a decent story mode in the first place seems quaint. Decisions like these don't seem based in hesitation, accident, or misunderstanding of audience potential, but in the developer sort of defying contemporary conventions in game design. Titanfall 2, from a development standpoint, has far more in common with shooters from 15 years ago than it does with Overwatch. And I like it for this reason.

With that said, I wonder how Titanfall's total sales compare to Doom's, another revival of more classic gameplay/design.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


I genuinely don't understand how people enjoy Overwatch, it's slow, feels floaty and disconnected, there's no sense of getting hit, your weapons might as well just be pretend... I played it a whole bunch on the free weekend they did but nothing grabbed me in it, a few of the levels were nice I guess but if the gameplay feels like babby's first FPS then I've got nothing that tickles my balls.

Eyud
Aug 5, 2006

I bought Overwatch around the time it came out and played it for a couple days and regretted the purchase and haven't had any desire to touch it since. Mechanically it felt fine to me and the massive player base is nice but Blizzard's style and tone is just awful. It's a bad game, unlike Titanfall 2.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

I really like this colony map. The open spaces are great for my Northstar and Legion, Scorch and Ronin can cut through the buildings with good cover for ambushes and flanking, and there's all sorts of crazy runs for pilots on foot. I keep getting shot from rooftops, but that's just encouragement to keep going fast.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

idk Overwatch does feel extremely slow after TF2 but idk why people compare them, completely different games


whydontwehaveboth

Wazzit
Jul 16, 2004

Who wants to play video games?
A pretty lucky shot

http://i.imgur.com/iYFU7Hf.gifv


a mysterious cloak posted:

Also, just FYI, my son is apparently stalking your activity feed - he showed me a couple of your clips yesterday and then proceeded to laser 3 guys in a match :cheers:

Haha, that's cool. I added you if you're ever up for games.

Duct Tape
Sep 30, 2004

Huh?
I picked this up during the free weekend, and have played it a bunch since (already regenerated twice). But I'm still conflicted on a pretty large portion of the game: the titans themselves.

When I'm fighting as a pilot vs another pilot, the game is absolutely amazing. Flying around the battlefield at breakneck speed with split-second shooting mechanics, simply awesome.

But when I'm going against a titan, either as a pilot or inside a titan myself, it just feels underwhelming. As a pilot, either I get 6 or so shots off with an anti-titan weapon to bring it down (and will die from a single hit from their weapon), or I rodeo it to deal what feels like trivial amounts of damage, and likely die in the process. As a titan, it usually ends up feeling like a slug-fest; I hit them, they hit me, we go back and forth, until one of us explodes.

Am I missing something about titans? What does pulling a battery from a titan even do (I know you can place it in a friendly titan to give them a shield, but what does it do to the enemy titan)? Is there some sort of titan-meta I'm not getting?

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



As a pilot, you should never be trying to one on one a titan unless you have no other choice because, as you've noticed, you'll usually die very quickly. Ideally you want to wait till they're occupied with a friendly titan or chasing other pilots around, then let loose on them. Even in that scenario, it's a good idea to take your shot and then move somewhere else for the next one.

Rodeo actually does a decent chunk of damage to the enemy titan, but the main benefit is that it gives you a ton of meter toward your own titan. Pulling a battery out of an enemy titan and dropping it in a friendly one is by far the fastest way to get your own titan.

As for using your own titan, it takes a bit to get the feel for it, and obviously they all play differently. Learning what the different titans can do and how to handle them when you encounter them on the other team is big. Also, you may be playing a big stompy robot, but with most of the titans, you should really be using cover, positioning, defensive abilities, and the dodge boost (if you have it) extensively to put the hurt on enemy titans while limiting the damage you take. Titan v Titan combat is much more tactical and methodical than the pilot game.

runchild
May 26, 2010

420 smoke 🎨artisanal🍑 melange erryday

The Titan charge meter bonus from batteries is a huge deal. Rodeo is a pretty risky move, but using the Low Profile perk mitigates that risk (it delays their rodeo notification until you're almost done) especially combined with cloak (it hides your jump jet trails). It unlocks pretty late but can be purchased for credits and will thereafter be available permanently, even after you regen. The Thunderbolt is also great for building meter when fired toward a group of enemy Titans.

As for Titan on Titan combat, if you're just slugging it out it sounds like you aren't using cover and your dashes effectively. Moving in and out of cover and dodging shots at just the right moment are key to minimizing damage on your Titan, and not taking damage is the key to kicking rear end. That's why Ion is so drat powerful, she can do major damage with a laser shot or two and be back behind cover before the opponent can react. Curve Tone missiles around and over cover by aiming away from your lock. Use the various shields at the right moments. Titan combat is more tactical but still fast and fun.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Use Low Profile, Extra Battery, and Phase Embark.


When you're at 70% of your titan meter find a titan to steal a battery from. Drop your titan when you get to safety with the battery. Boom, titan + shield. After your first battle in the titan duck away for a moment, pop out of titan, use your boost for Extra Battery and get back in your titan + new shield.

Rinse. Repeat. Add Cloak to be an extra pain in the rear end, since enemy titans can't see you AT ALL.

Nichol
May 18, 2004

Sly Dog

Duct Tape posted:

... I rodeo it to deal what feels like trivial amounts of damage...

I think pulling a battery (or dropping a grenade in the orifice) takes 1 bar of titan health? Of 3-5 they start with? It is pretty substantial.

Cinara
Jul 15, 2007
Yea, stealing a battery takes a full bar of HP and then you have a battery to go in a friendly titan or your own for an even larger health swing.

Unless it's someone who's good at Ronin and uses Phase Shift to avoid the battery damage, kills you and then puts the battery back in their own titan and gains hp.

Nichol
May 18, 2004

Sly Dog

Cinara posted:

... someone who's good at Ronin and uses Phase Shift to avoid the battery damage, kills you and then puts the battery back in their own titan and gains hp.

In my experience it is almost always this.

This game is hard.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Fuuuuck that holopilot update and gently caress live fire.

Wazzit
Jul 16, 2004

Who wants to play video games?
New Frontier News Network update

https://www.ea.com/games/titanfall/titanfall-2/news/frontier-news-network-12

quote:

There will be another DLC drop coming this month and it’s called, A Glitch in the Frontier. Later this month we’ll have an F.N.N. where we will be revealing all the content coming with it, the trailer, and release date.

Probably April 28th with the way the monthly drops have been going.



also, to add to the rodeo discussion, pulling out a battery/dropping a grenade while the Titan is doomed is an instant kill and greatly builds your Titan Meter, giving you the Titan and pilot kill.

Wazzit fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Apr 7, 2017

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

quote:

A Glitch in the Frontier

War Games confirmed. :v:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Wazzit posted:

New Frontier News Network update

https://www.ea.com/games/titanfall/titanfall-2/news/frontier-news-network-12


Probably April 28th with the way the monthly drops have been going.



also, to add to the rodeo discussion, pulling out a battery/dropping a grenade while the Titan is doomed is an instant kill and greatly builds your Titan Meter, giving you the Titan and pilot kill.

The downside is that if they eject before you kill them, you both get launched into the air, but they get way more height than you and 99% of the time I get ganked by them before I hit the ground. In my experience I always get launched up facing the opposite direction from them :(

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



I'm only level 8 and I'm loving this game. So far I've been rocking the R201 and CAR SMG. Also trying to get a feel for the magnetic GL and charge Rifle for some anti-titan action. How are late-unlock weapons compared to the starting ones?

Looking for goons to play with! PSN: Guillermus_

Mill Village
Jul 27, 2007

Guillermus posted:

I'm only level 8 and I'm loving this game. So far I've been rocking the R201 and CAR SMG. Also trying to get a feel for the magnetic GL and charge Rifle for some anti-titan action. How are late-unlock weapons compared to the starting ones?

Looking for goons to play with! PSN: Guillermus_

Almost all the guns in this game are great. The Mastiff is the only one I really don't like, but that's because the EVO outclasses it in every way.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Guillermus posted:

I'm only level 8 and I'm loving this game. So far I've been rocking the R201 and CAR SMG. Also trying to get a feel for the magnetic GL and charge Rifle for some anti-titan action. How are late-unlock weapons compared to the starting ones?

Looking for goons to play with! PSN: Guillermus_

Add me and Brayden, we play a lot. My PSN is DocFuzz.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Guillermus posted:

I'm only level 8 and I'm loving this game. So far I've been rocking the R201 and CAR SMG. Also trying to get a feel for the magnetic GL and charge Rifle for some anti-titan action. How are late-unlock weapons compared to the starting ones?

Looking for goons to play with! PSN: Guillermus_

Definitely give the R97 and Flatline a try. Charge Rifle got nerfed pretty bad, but the Archer is pretty good these days.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Is there any way to rodeo successfully aside from having the unlocks you guys mentioned? I've never even gotten close, I just get murdered within seconds of grabbing the battery.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



a mysterious cloak posted:

Is there any way to rodeo successfully aside from having the unlocks you guys mentioned? I've never even gotten close, I just get murdered within seconds of grabbing the battery.

You have to get good at wallrunning routes.


I steal batteries every match, and yes, sometimes you get killed, but that doesn't defeat the purpose of trying (damage + meter). Eventually, after enough tries you'll be good enough at escaping that you'll enter a slightly higher skill tier automatically.



And really, since they removed the 'stolen battery indicator' it's easier than ever to do. I don't even use low profile a lot of the time; just make sure the titan you're targeting has already used their electric smoke.

runchild
May 26, 2010

420 smoke 🎨artisanal🍑 melange erryday

Also very helpful, steal the battery while the enemy Titan is engaged with a friendly Titan. And don't bother trying if there are other enemy Titans nearby.

Also, if you're being rodeoed near friendly pilots, STAND STILL FOR FUCKS SAKE. I've lost count of the times I've tried to help a teammate get rid of an enemy pilot but they keep dodging all my helpful shots.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

a mysterious cloak posted:

Is there any way to rodeo successfully aside from having the unlocks you guys mentioned? I've never even gotten close, I just get murdered within seconds of grabbing the battery.

Go for titans that are distracted by your teammates and isolated so they can't get a friend to punch you off their back. If they pop smoke, back off and try again when the smoke is gone. Use cloak or phase shift or stim and get a height advantage/cover.

Getting on the titan isn't hard, getting away with the battery is usually harder (easier now that they took the icon off, though).

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

You have to get good at wallrunning routes.


I steal batteries every match, and yes, sometimes you get killed, but that doesn't defeat the purpose of trying (damage + meter). Eventually, after enough tries you'll be good enough at escaping that you'll enter a slightly higher skill tier automatically.



And really, since they removed the 'stolen battery indicator' it's easier than ever to do. I don't even use low profile a lot of the time; just make sure the titan you're targeting has already used their electric smoke.

Bridging off this, fake rodeoing then breaking off and running while they waste their smoke, then coming back around to jump on them again is SUPER effective. Most people don't run double countermeasures, so unless they're Tone or Ronin it's hard to get you off once you're on.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Also, the pilot response to a titan that crouches down inside electric smoke and stands still is to jump straight up and call your titan down on that very spot. 20% of the time you'll drop a loving titan on them because they haven't moved.

Wazzit
Jul 16, 2004

Who wants to play video games?

Kelp Me! posted:

The downside is that if they eject before you kill them, you both get launched into the air, but they get way more height than you and 99% of the time I get ganked by them before I hit the ground. In my experience I always get launched up facing the opposite direction from them :(

Yeah, that's true. Ejecting with an enemy pilot on top your Titan will line up that pilot in your sights while that pilot is often turned around facing away from you. Rodeoing is usually too much of a risk that I usually don't go for it. 99% of the time I run the extra battery boost so I'll have that for my Titan or will give it out to a friendly Titan (but really I'm giving it away to build my Titan meter)



runchild posted:

Also very helpful, steal the battery while the enemy Titan is engaged with a friendly Titan. And don't bother trying if there are other enemy Titans nearby.

Also, if you're being rodeoed near friendly pilots, STAND STILL FOR FUCKS SAKE. I've lost count of the times I've tried to help a teammate get rid of an enemy pilot but they keep dodging all my helpful shots.

Sorry, that's probably always me. If there's a pilot on me I'll often immediately start spinning in one direction to line up the 180 degree punch when that pilot jumps off with the battery. For me it's just easier to already be in a rotating motion and just click the punch a second after I hear the pilot jumping off.

Bushmaori
Mar 8, 2009

a mysterious cloak posted:

Is there any way to rodeo successfully aside from having the unlocks you guys mentioned? I've never even gotten close, I just get murdered within seconds of grabbing the battery.

Arc grenades when you jump off can buy you a couple of seconds.

discworld is all I read
Apr 7, 2009

DAIJOUBU!! ... Daijoubu ?? ?
Also never rodeo from the front; the space to do so is relatively small in the front and there's a ground chance you'll just get punched into gibs.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

Also, the pilot response to a titan that crouches down inside electric smoke and stands still is to jump straight up and call your titan down on that very spot. 20% of the time you'll drop a loving titan on them because they haven't moved.

This is a pretty good argument for warpfall actually.

I've found that depending on when they pop their smoke you have enough time to pull the battery and get away still--you'll be at zero health for a second, but even if you don't get away you'll get a chunk of their titan armor.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Inspector Hound posted:

This is a pretty good argument for warpfall actually.

I've found that depending on when they pop their smoke you have enough time to pull the battery and get away still--you'll be at zero health for a second, but even if you don't get away you'll get a chunk of their titan armor.

I used to run Warpfall all the time, but there were so many scenarios where I would miscalculate the offensive drop and by the time I got into my titan it was at 1/3 health. Honestly, Warpfall isn't even much of a time saver versus Phase Embark. Phase Embark is such a good skill when used right and the titan boot screens are pretty much gone when you use it.

Sammus
Nov 30, 2005

The secret to rodeoing titans is to always be rodeoing titans. In every situation, no matter what. The only exception to my rule is when someone else is already on the titan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY1K4u05OUA

Rynex
Sep 26, 2007

So I heard there was a guy with a 100+ winstreak on coliseum, and finally got to play him...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayy_UTT4eRI

Dude's a fraud. He's dropping from the games between the last replay and the ceremony.

Thanks for the games with PC Goons tonight, was good fun :)

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Rynex posted:

So I heard there was a guy with a 100+ winstreak on coliseum, and finally got to play him...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayy_UTT4eRI

Dude's a fraud. He's dropping from the games between the last replay and the ceremony.

Thanks for the games with PC Goons tonight, was good fun :)

I kill you, I'm bettah. You kill me, I exploit a bug and get the loss wiped from my record, so I'm still bettah


Odds are the guy's probably flattered you bothered to record him doing it.

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a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


So I took everybody's advice and went on a (relative) tear last night. Handful of laser kills, successful rodeo, laser core killed a Titan and goosed the pilot... My wife says I was giggling like a loon.

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