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Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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Is the game good? Metacritic puts it at 4.8 out of 10

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Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Zzulu posted:

Is the game good? Metacritic puts it at 4.8 out of 10

Yikes. That's the user score, not the reviewer score, which is probably even worse for EA.

Well, I mean, EA definitely deserves to get dicksmacked for all of the poo poo they've been doing over the years. Shame it had to reflect poorly on the Mass Effect series, but what can you do?

I like the game and keep playing it but I wouldn't recommend buying it at full price, which is fairly damning considering that Mass Effect 2 is one of the only games I've ever pre-ordered and Mass Effect 3 is the only reason I originally got Xbox Live.

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010

Just checked Metacritic and it's now at a solid 70

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Everyone make sure to adjust your fun levels accordingly

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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Zzulu posted:

Is the game good? Metacritic puts it at 4.8 out of 10

Combat good
Multiplayer balance too hosed up to get super in to right now, but if they actually fix it it'll be real good
Writing bad with a few disparate fun and good parts. Like, half the dialogue is incredibly stunted and weird for no discernible reason, and the overall plot is the worst elements of Bioware combined with the worst elements of Halo 4
Side quests extremely bad

I would have said it's an 8/10 for my dumb rear end, but they removed/fixed some of the funniest poo poo in the game because people made fun of it so now it's 7/10.

e: Hey waitaminute you're asking ironically!! poo poo

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Writing is actually pretty good with some notably cringe-worthy lines

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
ketts have no reproducing organs, i feel bad for them

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

Kurtofan posted:

ketts have no reproducing organs, i feel bad for them

I am 100% sure we will learn in MEA2 that they are some sort of peacepeeker force, maybe even thats how they call themselves Peacekeeper. They are sorta pacifist in a way, until they need to harvest you. They are surprised people consider them evil. Their whole attitude in the game is "Wait a minute, the problem here is that you don't understand us and our enormous efforts to help people".

The game don't give enough elements to even wildly theorize, but you can always imagine they where created has a police force, but with a safeguard mechanism: no vagina, but they said "gently caress it, the universe need us" and then they invented the glory holyficacion.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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Tei posted:

I am 100% sure we will learn in MEA2 that they are some sort of peacepeeker force, maybe even thats how they call themselves Peacekeeper. They are sorta pacifist in a way, until they need to harvest you. They are surprised people consider them evil. Their whole attitude in the game is "Wait a minute, the problem here is that you don't understand us and our enormous efforts to help people".

So they're americans

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Zzulu posted:

So they're americans

they do seem to be a republic

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde
Haha, just beat the game and there's a terminal in your room on the Hyperion with an email from Sera and Dagna and another from Anders (who says "let's blow the lid off this place!)

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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also i still occasionally get the doomguy run animation and i hope they never patch it

Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene

Decius posted:

It's intentional. They cut to him when he get's in and made sure you hear the sound during the ride. Aknowledging it would ruin it, like one of the background gags in Airplane!

I don't trust Bioware

Stranger Danger Ranger
Jul 21, 2007
There are lizards coming out of my tv.

SubponticatePoster posted:

Haha, just beat the game and there's a terminal in your room on the Hyperion with an email from Sera and Dagna and another from Anders (who says "let's blow the lid off this place!)

And one from Hawke, but I forget what it says. I could have done that if I had a SAM or something.

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Have you ever been in a Batarian Bathhouse?

Stop calling me Peebee!

Reclaimer
Sep 3, 2011

Pierced through the heart
but never killed



SubponticatePoster posted:

Haha, just beat the game and there's a terminal in your room on the Hyperion with an email from Sera and Dagna and another from Anders (who says "let's blow the lid off this place!)

There are ones from other Bioware games too, like Radiant Jen Zi from Jade Empire.

Decius
Oct 14, 2005

Ramrod XTreme

Tei posted:

I am 100% sure we will learn in MEA2 that they are some sort of peacepeeker force, maybe even thats how they call themselves Peacekeeper. They are sorta pacifist in a way, until they need to harvest you. They are surprised people consider them evil. Their whole attitude in the game is "Wait a minute, the problem here is that you don't understand us and our enormous efforts to help people".

The game don't give enough elements to even wildly theorize, but you can always imagine they where created has a police force, but with a safeguard mechanism: no vagina, but they said "gently caress it, the universe need us" and then they invented the glory holyficacion.

Yes, the good guys generally use false signals to lure civilian shuttles into deathtraps and attack colonies while pretending to the other colonies that they were attacked by them. How exactly do you come to the "peaceful" conclusion? When they shot your squad mates or when they harvested half the Salarian Ark?

Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006

I'm just a total piece of shit and I'm not sure why I keep posting on this site. Christ, I have spent years with idiots giving me bad advice about online dating and haven't noticed that the thread I'm in selects for people that can't talk to people worth a damn.
i dont think its likely but it was pretty well established that archon kinda went rogue, that they think they're ultimately helping the lesser species and that they are a good distance away from their home. considering some of the insane and monstrous things humans have done to each other in the name of "helping" them it wouldnt be too insane a theory, though i doubt its the case

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
The Kett just need to change their uniforms to have a shoulder insignia and talk about genetic purity a bit. Then we'll have the perfect ongoing enemy that can be tossed in anywhere and nobody will ever feel bad for shooting them.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
though there seems to be male and female ketts, which is odd

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

DancingShade posted:

The Kett just need to change their uniforms to have a shoulder insignia and talk about genetic purity a bit. Then we'll have the perfect ongoing enemy that can be tossed in anywhere and nobody will ever feel bad for shooting them.

The Kett are all about the opposite of genetic purity though.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I'm learning to avoid taking sharp corners in mass effect 2. They're a quick way to end up stuck in the ceiling

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

Decius posted:

Yes, the good guys generally use false signals to lure civilian shuttles into deathtraps and attack colonies while pretending to the other colonies that they were attacked by them. How exactly do you come to the "peaceful" conclusion? When they shot your squad mates or when they harvested half the Salarian Ark?

To help, all they do is to (what they think is) helping people.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
this thread is destined for greatness

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



we must prepare the thread for final exaltation

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Tei posted:

To help, all they do is to (what they think is) helping people.

This isn't much of a revelation, though. The Kett are pretty obviously a heavy-handed colonialism metaphor. I think they even refer to exaltation as 'civilzing' at one point.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
Hmm. Doesn't quite have the ring of Harby's one-liners.

Verviticus posted:

i dont think its likely but it was pretty well established that archon kinda went rogue, that they think they're ultimately helping the lesser species and that they are a good distance away from their home. considering some of the insane and monstrous things humans have done to each other in the name of "helping" them it wouldnt be too insane a theory, though i doubt its the case
Nah, the only reason that some of the Kett end up thinking the Archon has strayed is because he got too obsessed with the Remnant and stopped being focused on their real purpose of exalting others and strengthening their empire. So it's not like the Kett doctrine was all that fluffy before Archon went off-mission; if anything, the Archon wasn't being evil enough for the evil race...or, at least, he wasn't being the right kind of evil that they wanted him to be.

Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006

I'm just a total piece of shit and I'm not sure why I keep posting on this site. Christ, I have spent years with idiots giving me bad advice about online dating and haven't noticed that the thread I'm in selects for people that can't talk to people worth a damn.

BrianWilly posted:

Hmm. Doesn't quite have the ring of Harby's one-liners.

Nah, the only reason that some of the Kett end up thinking the Archon has strayed is because he got too obsessed with the Remnant and stopped being focused on their real purpose of exalting others and strengthening their empire. So it's not like the Kett doctrine was all that fluffy before Archon went off-mission; if anything, the Archon wasn't being evil enough for the evil race...or, at least, he wasn't being the right kind of evil that they wanted him to be.

yeah, im just saying there's obfuscation in understanding how the kett typically operate because the version we see are behaving oddly

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Speak to me of grenade/sticky grenade gun conversions. What are they good for? What sort of weapons do they work well on?

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

The Lone Badger posted:

Speak to me of grenade/sticky grenade gun conversions.

War

huh

god god y'all

What are they good for?

What sort of weapons do they work well on?

absolutely nothing

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Verviticus posted:

yeah, im just saying there's obfuscation in understanding how the kett typically operate because the version we see are behaving oddly

It would be awesome if ME:A 2 showed us a more insidious, soft-power version of the kett where they try to coerce alien cultures into exalting through social and economic pressures.

I know it won't happen because we need a conscience-free excuse to murder them in droves, but still, it would be cool!

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



The Lone Badger posted:

Speak to me of grenade/sticky grenade gun conversions. What are they good for? What sort of weapons do they work well on?

They're amusing on the Hurricane SMG and the grenade mod is decent enough on the Crusader shotgun

Stranger Danger Ranger
Jul 21, 2007
There are lizards coming out of my tv.
How superior can the Kett even be anyway? A squad of three milky way folks who aren't even necessarily professional soldiers are able to slaughter them by the thousands and bring their whole operation to its knees within a few weeks of arriving. They are loving bastards to fight in multiplayer though I guess...

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Stranger Danger Ranger posted:

How superior can the Kett even be anyway? A squad of three milky way folks who aren't even necessarily professional soldiers are able to slaughter them by the thousands and bring their whole operation to its knees within a few weeks of arriving. They are loving bastards to fight in multiplayer though I guess...

Give them a break. There's scarcely a power in the universe that can stand up to a protagonist.

Number Ten Cocks
Feb 25, 2016

by zen death robot

Kurtofan posted:

this thread is destined for greatness

Only as long as The Moderator doesn't attack.

homullus
Mar 27, 2009

sneakyfrog posted:

absolutely nothing

say it again

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

homullus posted:

say it again

:hfive:

TheCenturion
May 3, 2013
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Verviticus posted:

yeah, im just saying there's obfuscation in understanding how the kett typically operate because the version we see are behaving oddly

To be fair, the odd way they're behaving is not giving their full attention to forcibly converting everybody in sight. And even then, the Archon wants Meridian in order to have the power to enforce conversion on an industrial scale.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Jesus it takes ages to load the game now because of the shaders building.

Rabid Snake
Aug 6, 2004



RBA Starblade posted:

Jesus it takes ages to load the game now because of the shaders building.

I thought I was the only one. It feels like the old HDD days

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Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

RBA Starblade posted:

Jesus it takes ages to load the game now because of the shaders building.

Possibly the reason they trimmed out so many shaders for the release version. At least it's only the first load of a new session.

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