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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Do they? To have a middle you have to have an end In medias res refers to the midst of action, not the midst of the narrative.
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i've never read aquarium but i read dirt by the same author and despised it more viscerally than i have ever despised a book. however this may be a good thing depending on your perspective
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theres a 60 page thread about people hate-reading a harry potter fanfic and its been going on for over two years this isn't relevant to anything it's just kind of depressing
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chernobyl kinsman posted:theres a 60 page thread about people hate-reading a harry potter fanfic and its been going on for over two years Bright side: that's the only Harry Potter thread
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Bright side: that's the only Harry Potter thread You should gas it.
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A human heart posted:You should gas it. If I struck it down, something worse would replace it.
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gas that too
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probate ppl who post about scifi and fantasy in non-scifi and fantasy threads
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ulvir posted:probate ppl who post about scifi and fantasy in non-scifi and fantasy threads What if they want to talk about the sociopolitical implications of Soviet scifi
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A Heart of a Dog is scifi
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probate anyone over 20 who exclusively reads young adult. probate them from society
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Avshalom posted:probate anyone over 20 who exclusively reads young adult. probate them from society Can't really argue with this.
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ulvir posted:probate ppl who post about scifi and fantasy
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anyone read the accusation, the pseudonymous collection of short stories apparently smuggled out of out north korea?
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Mar 20, 2017 21:08
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chernobyl kinsman posted:anyone read the accusation, the pseudonymous collection of short stories apparently smuggled out of out north korea? Dissident literature isn't usually very interesting, it would be cooler to read a pro government north korean
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Mar 21, 2017 01:01
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chernobyl kinsman posted:anyone read the accusation, the pseudonymous collection of short stories apparently smuggled out of out north korea? I have read the first 3 stories, it's pretty much what you would expect. They all boil down to: 'I used to believe in socialism now I realize it's a sham.'
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Mar 21, 2017 06:30
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A human heart posted:The people who post very long earnest reviews on goodreads about how they couldn't relate to characters from seminal works of literature, are cool Isn't that the point of a loving review? A human heart posted:Dissident literature isn't usually very interesting, it would be cooler to read a pro government north korean Here's some more interesting literature for you Legate Homan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oORNagSrlNs
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SkaAndScreenplays posted:Isn't that the point of a loving review? The point isn't generally to say stupid things, no. I'm not sure why you posted a star trek youtube at me
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A human heart posted:The point isn't generally to say stupid things, no. I'm not sure why you posted a star trek youtube at me The point of a review is to share your opinions on the thing being reviewed. You think their opinion is stupid; that does not make it so. The Star Trek clips are a jab at your longing for authoritarian propaganda disguised as literature as those are considered classics in the unapologetically fascist Cardassian Union. Watch the clips and listen to the literature the guy with a spoon on his head is describing because I'll bet they're right up your alley.
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giving lolita a 1 star because you couldn't relate to humbert humbert misses the point of the novel entirely
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SkaAndScreenplays posted:The point of a review is to share your opinions on the thing being reviewed. You think their opinion is stupid; that does not make it so. Are you aware that the Star Trek books described in that video do not exist?
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SkaAndScreenplays posted:The point of a review is to share your opinions on the thing being reviewed. You think their opinion is stupid; that does not make it so. lol you're real mad at me for some reason. i just think it would be more interesting to read literature by dudes who think juche is correct than dissidents, because it would be a different perspective. like i don't need to read a dissident to hear opinions about how north korea is bad, i can look in the newspaper for that. plenty of subpar soviet literature got attention for being dissident, even though it wasn't very good. i suspect this thing is the same.
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also uhhh of course it's possible for someone to have stupid opinions, that happens a lot. they're not all equal. some opinions are bad
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I was at the British Museum and they were very proud of their collection of NK art and it was like a cupboard with one oil painting in and some pots. They're a very shy state!
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CestMoi posted:Are you aware that the Star Trek books described in that video do not exist? Yes, it was a dig at the likely tone and content of books with similar PoVs that exist today. A human heart posted:like i don't need to read a dissident to hear opinions about how north korea is bad, i can look in the newspaper for that. plenty of subpar soviet literature got attention for being dissident, even though it wasn't very good. i suspect this thing is the same. Just because I'm saying that finding sincere or quality statist literature is going to be hard doesn't mean I'm saying dissident literature is by nature better. I don't disagree that the perspective could be interesting. Interest aside; totalitarian regimes like NK, the U.S.S.R (and a lesser extent Russia under Putin), & the PRC work really loving hard at suppressing art for a reason. The art that makes it through the filter of state censorship is either going to be brilliantly subversive satire or expertly crafted propaganda. I'm not saying this would by nature be of poor quality... just tremendously bland and ofttimes objectively wrong. Very very often though it would be bad. See the above statement about suppressing arts and discouraging culture that doesn't align perfectly with the goals of the state as to why. Patriotism isn't objectively bad. Government isn't objectively bad. A third thing that isn't objectively bad... We can bring that back to Western politics too. I was pretty goddamned conservative up until a couple years ago. The number one complaint I heard from conservative talk radio pundits is that there aren't many conservatives in Hollywood and that conservatives don't have any presence in creative media. That's because on a lesser level American conservatives have a general disdain for artistic pursuits. That's funny considering that Cormac McCarthy is obviously pretty damned right wing while being one of; if not the greatest American novelist living today. Their representation isn't lacking out of some Zionist Hollywood conspiracy to suppress the conservative voice; it's lacking because they shame any young conservative writers out of pursuing a career in writing or art out of some false sense of impracticality. Out of the top 10 great overtly conservative novels of American literature (Industrial revolution or later) 8 of them were either written or are set in or before the 1950's. In America the majority of conservative writers either shove a corny political message down your throat or they go the Christian film route and just make their antagonists into cartoonishly evil manifestations of their greatest sins while writing flavorless heroes who are infallible paragons of virtue and righteousness. It's likely a bigger problem with state sponsored literature because in NK they're teaching that the leader of their country is god, and is infallible, and gives all to everyone. When you're writing a character who is the embodiment of that national self-image any flaw or moral failing in the character is going to be perceived as an admonishment of national leadership. The Kim-Jong regime has killed for less. A human heart posted:lol you're real mad at me for some reason. Also this is the internet - so there absolutely has to be some abrasiveness to the arguments.
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What on earth are you talking about
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CestMoi posted:What on earth are you talking about Literature and how government suppression affects the tone and quality of it.
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SkaAndScreenplays posted:Patriotism isn't objectively bad. you're still conservative sorry
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Has anyone read Warped Passages: Unraveling the Mysteries of the Universe's Hidden Dimensions by Lisa Randall? It's on sale for $2 on kindle, but the reviews have been polarizing.
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SkaAndScreenplays posted:Yes, it was a dig at the likely tone and content of books with similar PoVs that exist today. I don't give a poo poo if literature is 'wrong' because it's literature not a textbook, and i don't really know where the rest of your weird post came from. also there's state approved soviet literature that isn't bland or 'wrong' - Aimatov's work for instance, or Mayakovsky's poem about Lenin.
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I think the obvious reason to be interested in NK dissident literature is that there isn't any, except for this new book apparently. Of course a lot of Soviet dissident literature is boring to us because we know fuckin everything about life under Soviet rule already.
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A human heart posted:Dissident literature isn't usually very interesting, it would be cooler to read a pro government north korean i don't disagree generally, and would love to read the work of a pro-juche north korean. this i find interesting though bc its the work of a guy still who is still living in the north, has little to no contact to the outside world, and is/was a state propagandist who apparently employs state-authorized storycrafting techniques to produce dissident lit.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:i don't disagree generally, and would love to read the work of a pro-juche north korean. this i find interesting though bc its the work of a guy still who is still living in the north, has little to no contact to the outside world, and is/was a state propagandist who apparently employs state-authorized storycrafting techniques to produce dissident lit. Well that's the story, we don't really have any way of verifying how true all that is, since the source is one guy with ties to the south Korean government.
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yeah everything i just said is predicated entirely on the theory that 'bandi' is a real person and not a fabrication e: afaik this contains the only translations of pro-north korean writers into English which has been made in the last few decades chernobyl kinsman fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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Where do I post to discuss Clive Cussler?
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Is there a historical non-fiction thread somewhere?
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ravenkult posted:Is there a historical non-fiction thread somewhere? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3458502
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I liked the Bas-Lag novels, and since he's apparently never gonna write another I decided to try one of China Meiville's other books, Kraken. The dude writes like an rear end in a top hat, and that's one thing when it's a fantasy book with cactus people, but when the book is just a paranormal romance but without the romance, it's kind of annoying.
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