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Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
When i brought it up i didnt mean genetics or any of that. Got drat goons

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Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer
Can someone explain why this loving April Giraffe being late at giving birth has been in the news for what feels like months cause at this point I kind of just want it to be stillborn

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Jastiger posted:

Idiocracy is more true than we want to believe re: breeding.

Got drat goons actually remembering what Idiocracy says about breeding!

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Jastiger posted:

When i brought it up i didnt mean genetics or any of that. Got drat goons

When I said I was in support of selective breeding, I meant nothing about genetics, you goons.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Jastiger posted:

When i brought it up i didnt mean genetics or any of that. Got drat goons

Right, you meant the non-genetic hereditary traits.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Idiocracy points out the example of the educated couple waiting and waiting for kids because they were focusing on careers, so they never have kids while others didnt care about that and had more.

It was less to do with genetics and more to do with consumer culture and quick satisfaction driving their lives. The analog i was making was thay i see that anecdotally too.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS
Yeah, I didn't see the start of Idiocracy as a genetic thing, more of a 'loving idiot' thing, since the yuppie-looking couple didn't seem any smarter than the rednecks, just more educated and with better jobs.

Then again, I was watching it for comedic effect, not as a socio-political statement.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

At the end of the movie it said the Dax Shepard character had a lot of babies and they were also the dumbest babies ever

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

JnnyThndrs posted:

Then again, I was watching it for comedic effect, not as a socio-political statement.

All good comedy is political.

Grandmother of Five
May 9, 2008


I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

sassassin posted:

All good comedy is political.

The opposite of this imo. Political cartoons are like those optical illusions where people claim there is something in them, but I plain can't see it. People who laugh at stuff like political cartoons don't laugh at things because they are funny, but because they agree with something a lot or very little, I figure.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Grandmother of Five posted:

The opposite of this imo. Political cartoons are like those optical illusions where people claim there is something in them, but I plain can't see it. People who laugh at stuff like political cartoons don't laugh at things because they are funny, but because they agree with something a lot or very little, I figure.

I think the problem is that political cartoons are your only idea of political comedy

Grandmother of Five
May 9, 2008


I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Henchman of Santa posted:

I think the problem is that political cartoons are your only idea of political comedy

They just embody it, is all.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

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Grandmother of Five posted:

The opposite of this imo. Political cartoons are like those optical illusions where people claim there is something in them, but I plain can't see it. People who laugh at stuff like political cartoons don't laugh at things because they are funny, but because they agree with something a lot or very little, I figure.

The thing that bugs me about political cartoons is they always explain the joke they are trying to make. There's no subtlety or trusting your audience to understand your point, everything is literally labeled. Also the way they draw people is just ugly.

Anyway political comedy is lame whether it's in cartoon form or spoken. Especially now with Trump. Every single joke about him has been done to death and comics still making grabbing by the pussy jokes or pointing out his hair or how fat he is or the casino thing are about as creative as someone still making a "black people be like this/white people be like that" joke.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Where do people see these political cartoons? Who reads newspapers anymore.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Mu Zeta posted:

Where do people see these political cartoons? Who reads newspapers anymore.

1. Newspaper Editors
2. A grumbling oil tycoon in the back of his Bentley on his way to the office in the morning
3. 4th grade kids making paper mache dinosaurs (may read a word or two of the funny pages)

Can't think of any others though.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
I work on suburban newspapers for a living and the target demo for those are middle-aged parents who like seeing their kids in the paper and/or never left their hometown.

Grandmother of Five
May 9, 2008


I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.
There isn't much of a difference between politically inspired memes and political cartoons imo. I don't actively seek them out or avoid them, but I see them often enough on social media.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
There are good political cartoons and cartoonists. They are often the ones that dont label everything and dont charicature the people they are writing about unless its topical to the point they are making

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Political Cartoons that just reference current events in politics and don't make a statement of their own aren't ever funny.

Whereas fart jokes can be funny, as they are inherently political.

Grandmother of Five
May 9, 2008


I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Jastiger posted:

There are good political cartoons and cartoonists. They are often the ones that dont label everything and dont charicature the people they are writing about unless its topical to the point they are making

just out of morbid curiosity, would you post a couple of individual strips that you have laughed at?

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Grandmother of Five posted:

just out of morbid curiosity, would you post a couple of individual strips that you have laughed at?

I tried to find a version of that Dan Lacey cartoon where mallard filmore drunkenly suicide rams the Doonesbury van but it's surprisingly hard to find via Google in a legible way

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer
Instead here's Paul Ryan and ayn rand grabbing at his pancake abs while a pancake bunny train emerges from a tunnel

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Kelly is the only good political cartoon.

Collateral Damage has a new favorite as of 16:11 on Apr 10, 2017

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Ha! As topical today as it was then!

I have no idea when that was made, but it sure looks like it was from the early 70's

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I hope John Oliver still feels bad about begging Donald Trump to run on his show because John Oliver's always come off a right smug prat to me.

burial
Sep 13, 2002

actually, that won't be necessary.

Mu Zeta posted:

Where do people see these political cartoons? Who reads newspapers anymore.

It's me. I buy the local Sunday paper every week. It's really relaxing.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

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lemon-lyme disease posted:

It's me. I buy the local Sunday paper every week. It's really relaxing.

I get the Failing New York Times delivered every sunday in Germany but mostly for the sports section and the crossword puzzle. I could get the exact same information online but it's just not the same.

burial
Sep 13, 2002

actually, that won't be necessary.
Yesss. I knew I wasn't the only one who still did crossword puzzles!

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

lemon-lyme disease posted:

Yesss. I knew I wasn't the only one who still did crossword puzzles!

I'm pretty sure over here crossword magazines sell more copies than newspapers. (And yes, I do crossword puzzles as well)

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





Jastiger posted:

It was less to do with genetics and more to do with consumer culture and quick satisfaction driving their lives. The analog i was making was thay i see that anecdotally too.

it's quite possible the rest of the film conveys those points better but since the intro only talks about evolution, natural selection favoring reproduction of the smartest/strongest/fastest (while using hilariously ill-chosen examples for it) and how noble human traits aren't being selected for without old evolutionary pressures around anymore, etc, etc ... there's no way you can't pull dumb non-biologist opinions about biology out of that mess rather than a hot take on the prevailing cultural trends of consumerism and anti-intellectualism

it's an astonishingly bad opener if the intent was to poke fun at things other than evolution, natural selection and the dilution of the human race by undesirables with even a fictitious example of a hi-IQ couple getting out-bred by hicks to drive the point home in a comical context but it's possible the rest of the film does remember what it's real intent was and does something else with it

Grandmother of Five posted:

just out of morbid curiosity, would you post a couple of individual strips that you have laughed at?

I definitely think I've seen the odd genuinely clever political cartoon but I admit they're sort of rare, I could probably find a strip or two as an example but what I don't think I could do is produce a cartoonist who was consistently funny over their career

I mean, other than Kelly who sorta cheats by being meta

yeah I eat rear end posted:

Anyway political comedy is lame whether it's in cartoon form or spoken. Especially now with Trump. Every single joke about him has been done to death and comics still making grabbing by the pussy jokes or pointing out his hair or how fat he is or the casino thing

I don't think this is something particularly special about Trump, the number of reused Clinton BJ jokes or Bush is an idiot jokes was unreal in terms gone by

It's probably more like Obama was special for not having (m)any blunders that made for quick jokes that a late night host could rattle off day after day imho

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Grandmother of Five posted:

just out of morbid curiosity, would you post a couple of individual strips that you have laughed at?

Well they dont have to make me laugh to be good. The best ones arent funny, but poignant. Kelly (Ward Sutton) is probablu the best though. Ill post some more when im off the phone.

Who Is Paul Blart
Oct 22, 2010
I believe that marijuana should remain illegal and scheduled next to heroin and crack forever. It's a dangerous drug that trucks idiots into lives of complacency and it encourages antisocial behavior.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

I don't like concerts.

Vaguely related to this, but I think that bands that "sound worse live" are just bad. A good band with skilled musicians/singer(s) will sound almost as good live as they do in the studio. Bands sounding bad live is usually because they're kinda poo poo with their instruments/singing.

Blue Star posted:

Other things that are science fiction bullshit: virtual reality, bioprinted organs, stem cell medicine, nanomachines, space exploration, "personalized medicine", clean energy, automation, artificial intelligence, designer babies, cyborg prosthetics that you can control with your brain, "regenerative medicine"

Personalized medicine is an actual thing we're making big progress towards, but a lot of the claims people make are heavily exaggerated and won't be possible for a very long time. So it's not so much that it won't happen, but that it won't be quite as amazing as advertised.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar
The only good concert I've ever been to was a Bon Jovi one. The ones I've been to with smaller bands/venues just didn't do anything for me, and were actually kind of annoying because people gave you poo poo for sitting down during them.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Most live music sucks

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Jastiger posted:

Most live music sucks

Correct.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Jastiger posted:

Most live music sucks

Skinny Puppy is always really good live.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Honest politicians are worse than dishonest ones, because you can count on the dishonest ones to let you down but you can't depend on the honest ones not disappoint to.

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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Openly dishonest politicians are the best though.

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