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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

"wait you're a reporter and you want to talk to an expert in the siren industry? sorry i only know about klaxons, whole different thing"

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JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...
top notch Siren Matter Expert on the way

Doom Mathematic
Sep 2, 2008

I guess I'll be the tornado which could have arrived while this was happening?

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
sirens.stackexchange.com

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

quote:

Odysseus is an in-memory data management engine designed to handle big data . Large amounts of data such as continuous events or sensor data can be processed in real time . For this purpose, the platform provides a plurality of prefabricated and reusable processing steps with which the data can, for example, be filtered, correlated, extended, transformed, in order to generate complex events and higher-quality information from simple events. Equipped with efficient resource management and processing concepts , expandable and flexible interfaces, and a development environment, Odysseus significantly reduces the effort and minimizes errors in the development of real-time applications.

could've solved your siren problem right here

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003


I'll be the city limits reaching out to all the reservoirs:

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

i was pretty sure there weren't any sirens in phoenix and this is like the second google result https://www.thesirenboard.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5933 :eyepop:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

oh there's a siren fan forum

of course there is

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!
Fun Shoe

ate all the Oreos posted:

oh there's a siren fan forum

of course there is

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer
puttin big horns on things that should not have big horns is a beloved pasttime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icnRMW6P9nc

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

moron izzard posted:

puttin big horns on things that should not have big horns is a beloved pasttime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icnRMW6P9nc
i worked with a guy who got one of these for his truck and he loved honking it in tunnels or at pedestrians. it's like rolling coal but for ear damage instead of air pollution.

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

JawnV6 posted:

top notch Siren Matter Expert on the way

boo. boooooo!

Rufus Ping
Dec 27, 2006





I'm a Friend of Rodney Nano

flakeloaf posted:

could've solved your siren problem right here

lol

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
i've never heard of "little flocker" before but lol https://twitter.com/koenrh/status/851170375899783168 (the little flocker website is parked but here's a google cache for now https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pAN3pFloTR4J:https://www.littleflocker.com/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug

Progressive JPEG posted:

I'll be the city limits reaching out to all the reservoirs:


i'll be the conspicuous hole at the combination golf course, park, and expensive suburb

Meat Beat Agent
Aug 5, 2007

felonious assault with a sproinging boner

anthonypants posted:

i've never heard of "little flocker" before but lol https://twitter.com/koenrh/status/851170375899783168 (the little flocker website is parked but here's a google cache for now [url]https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pAN3pFloTR4J:https://www.littleflocker.com/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us[/url])

idgi, why would F-Secure want to buy a terrible Ben Stiller sequel

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

Bhodi posted:

i'll be the conspicuous hole at the combination golf course, park, and expensive suburb
that's university park and highland park.

quote:

According to a 2007 estimate,[8] the median income for a household in the city was $151,418, and the median income for a family was $200,000+, making University Park the seventh most affluent neighborhood in the USA. Males had a median income of $100,000 versus $44,007 for females. The per capita income for the city was $63,414. About 3.3% of families and 5.9% of the population were below the poverty line, including 3.9% of those under age 18 and 1.8% of those age 65 or over.

quote:

In 2000, the median income for a household in the town was $149,389 and the median income for a family was $200,001. Males had a median income of $100,000+ versus $43,594 for females. The per capita income for the town was $97,008. About 1.6% of families and 3.4% of the population were below the poverty line, including 2.5% (.025) of those under age 18 and 0.5% (.005) of those age 65 or over.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

flakeloaf posted:

i'll be the system meant to warn of wind being activated by a flood

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Finster Dexter posted:

Ok here's a question

Would you rather...

a) hash your passwords with md5
or
b) "hash" your passwords with a roll-your-own implementation of AES (that is, of course, reversible)

I'm thinking a) is one step removed from plain text, while b) is like two steps removed. I assure you this is purely hypothetical and in no way represents real-world code that I am surely not working on at this very moment.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

I choose death.

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

https://twitter.com/emmaroller/status/851504875544469505

This is kind of a security fuckup lol

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug
today's a good day for fuckups. how would you like an over the air PoC against samsung tvs that survives factory resets? war driving's back, baby!

https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/03/smart-tv-hack-embeds-attack-code-into-broadcast-signal-no-access-required/

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Bhodi posted:

today's a good day for fuckups. how would you like an over the air PoC against samsung tvs that survives factory resets? war driving's back, baby!

https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/03/smart-tv-hack-embeds-attack-code-into-broadcast-signal-no-access-required/
today, huh

Depressing Box
Jun 27, 2010

Half-price sideshow.

anthonypants posted:

i've never heard of "little flocker" before but lol https://twitter.com/koenrh/status/851170375899783168 (the little flocker website is parked but here's a google cache for now [url]https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pAN3pFloTR4J:https://www.littleflocker.com/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us[/url])

funny story, i tried to buy little flocker last year, and apparently the guy had to manually send you a key after purchase, but he never sent mine (despite charging me). two weeks of follow up emails later he suddenly refunded my money with no comment

bullet dodged, I guess

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



nice to see realtime traffic analysis of encryption metadata get more papers http://www.mjkranch.com/docs/CODASPY17_Kranch_Reed_IdentifyingHTTPSNetflix.pdf

death to vbr

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


was gonna post 'just plug your ears with wax it's nbd' about the sirens but this:

flakeloaf posted:

could've solved your siren problem right here

is way better

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug
well, it's new to me

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

nice to see realtime traffic analysis of encryption metadata get more papers http://www.mjkranch.com/docs/CODASPY17_Kranch_Reed_IdentifyingHTTPSNetflix.pdf

death to vbr

are there any mechanisms for padding out data that's encrypted to prevent this kind of thing?

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
^^^ Newer audio codecs will pad out data to get around phoneme detection yea

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

nice to see realtime traffic analysis of encryption metadata get more papers http://www.mjkranch.com/docs/CODASPY17_Kranch_Reed_IdentifyingHTTPSNetflix.pdf

death to vbr

sounds like silverlight's fault actually


e:

quote:

Our work reiterates warnings from previous researchers that VBR
encoding can leak details about the underlying content, thereby
undermining efforts to protect privacy with encryption. This
vulnerability is magnified for DASH streams, as the sequential
HTTP GETs generated by DASH correspond to video segment
data that can be found in an MPEG4’s metadata.

so yeah if you didn't need an index of all the chunk sizes you wouldn't have a nice happy table to compare the packets against. 2/5

Fuzzy Mammal fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Apr 11, 2017

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Shaggar posted:

are there any mechanisms for padding out data that's encrypted to prevent this kind of thing?

Use a fixed bitrate codec and disable silence suppression. The standard telephone codec G.711 is a locked solid 64 kilobit per second stream (~80kbit/sec after IP, UDP, and RTP overhead in a VoIP environment) in this configuration, so at that point it's all up to your encryption.

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
lol @ silverlight in general

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
I was thinking more transport layer where you might have more options w/ something like Netflix where they're gonna mandate the codecs/bitrates. like could you do a vpn that dynamically pads the vbr stream? or I suppose just introduce noise.

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
i guess you could always do ssh port forwarding or something

Perplx
Jun 26, 2004


Best viewed on Orgasma Plasma
Lipstick Apathy

Shaggar posted:

are there any mechanisms for padding out data that's encrypted to prevent this kind of thing?

nullsoft's waste file sharing app had this feature in 2003

Also it wouldn't be that hard to do this on a vpn, just add continuous traffic like iperf, then use qos to throttle the whole vpn connection and give iperf low priority

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Shaggar posted:

I was thinking more transport layer where you might have more options w/ something like Netflix where they're gonna mandate the codecs/bitrates. like could you do a vpn that dynamically pads the vbr stream? or I suppose just introduce noise.

introducing noise is frequently not useful, because these algorithms get enough use that you can statistics the noise away

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

just for fun question: can a stingray remotely update your iPhone radio firmware, kick you off wifi, and tunnel all your info through the fake cell tower?

I asked Siri a (not-innocuous) question and moments later:
-all my authentications (apple and email) started failing
-I couldn't connect to my wifi (working for everyone else in the room)
-browser speed was throttled to almost nothing
-going to cell settings spat out a message that my cell radio settings had been updated, apropos of nothing
-resetting my radio did nothing, I had to do a full restore

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

theflyingexecutive posted:

just for fun question: can a stingray remotely update your iPhone radio firmware, kick you off wifi, and tunnel all your info through the fake cell tower?

I asked Siri a (not-innocuous) question and moments later:
-all my authentications (apple and email) started failing
-I couldn't connect to my wifi (working for everyone else in the room)
-browser speed was throttled to almost nothing
-going to cell settings spat out a message that my cell radio settings had been updated, apropos of nothing
-resetting my radio did nothing, I had to do a full restore

siri allahu akbar?



edit: some security content:

https://www.wired.com/2017/04/hackers-hijacked-banks-entire-online-operation/amp/ tl;dr brazilian bank lets someone steal their domain name, who then set up a phony copy with valid https certs from lets encrypt.

El Mero Mero fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Apr 11, 2017

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

theflyingexecutive posted:

just for fun question: can a stingray remotely update your iPhone radio firmware, kick you off wifi, and tunnel all your info through the fake cell tower?

I asked Siri a (not-innocuous) question and moments later:
-all my authentications (apple and email) started failing
-I couldn't connect to my wifi (working for everyone else in the room)
-browser speed was throttled to almost nothing
-going to cell settings spat out a message that my cell radio settings had been updated, apropos of nothing
-resetting my radio did nothing, I had to do a full restore

dunno why wifi would break because that's a separate radio. it does sound like the carrier settings are hosed so it may be as simple as a bad flash. if it happens again it's almost certainly the cell radio dying

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

El Mero Mero posted:

siri allahu akbar?

the question I asked was "what's it called when you mix *1 and *2?"

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theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

hobbesmaster posted:

dunno why wifi would break because that's a separate radio. it does sound like the carrier settings are hosed so it may be as simple as a bad flash. if it happens again it's almost certainly the cell radio dying

well it happened immediately after I asked a LEO eyebrow-raising question, kicked me off wifi, and seemed to act like it couldn't establish secure connections which all screamed mitm to me. it's been 100% after the restore, but dying radio is certainly an option

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