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So, more/better info, dad was feeling bad at home doing diy, told mum to call an ambulance, first responder car turns up in about 2 minutes flat, she calls in a cardiac ambulance, they take him straight to Manchester who have a cardiac centre of excellence. Died in the ambulance, zapped back. Arrives at the hospital, codes again. Wheeled straight into Cath lab, science happens, stents put in. Blood pressure had been hosed up for 8 years, immediately fixed. Then I find out his entire side of the family died of heart problems. Yeah, would have been nice to know that earlier. Probably wouldn't have had bacon and eggs this morning. But he looks and apparently feels better than he has in years and now I've seen him I can relax. Just have to stop him trying to do all the diy straight away.
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Zapping stops the heart to attempt to let it restart normally on its own, because it's having a feedback loop of bad electrical activity. It's like getting a harmonic suspension shimmy on grooved concrete. Sometimes all you need to do is stop completelyand start up again smoothly. Or like having a manic ADHD child take a deep breath.
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:Zapping stops the heart to attempt to let it restart normally on its own, because it's having a feedback loop of bad electrical activity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKtPWGvmAXw
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Apr 10, 2017 22:38
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Whatever it was they did he "died" in the ambulance with my mum sat there beside him. So I'm here at my mum's keeping her company rather than in support of my dad, who is already scheming to be let home as early as possible  For me it's a real and horrible reminder that my parents are only mortal, but hopefully they've a few more years to enjoy together.
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I didn't mean to be snarky, just an FYI. Also, that sucks, man. Also jfc who lets family ride with them in the back?! Never, never ever do I do that. I know different countries and all, but still. Family just gets in the way, and emotional, in the back. Glad he made it okay.
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Keep the bacon and eggs and cut out the trans fats. It will absolutely jack up your cholesterol. Not being in the US, maybe they're less ubiquitous, but here pretty much everything that's frozen and bread is loaded, as well as many shelf stable snacks. My cholesterol was borderline, dr wanted to put me on meds, I researched and cut out the one frozen pizza per week I was having and in 6 months my cholesterol was very good. Glad your dad is ok!
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poo poo I just realised I was supposed to get the feedback from my work health checkup today but I booked the whole week as holiday. Hope it's not serious 
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Apr 10, 2017 22:47
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Oh poo poo, glad your dad's ok!!
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cakesmith handyman posted:For me it's a real and horrible reminder that my parents are only mortal, but hopefully they've a few more years to enjoy together.  . Glad he's ok, and hopefully it sounds like this is something he's predisposed to and hasn't taken any preventative measures against, so some relatively minor tweaks will make a massive difference to how things are goign forwards.angryrobots posted:Keep the bacon and eggs and cut out the trans fats. It will absolutely jack up your cholesterol.
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cakesmith handyman posted:Whatever it was they did he "died" in the ambulance with my mum sat there beside him. So I'm here at my mum's keeping her company rather than in support of my dad, who is already scheming to be let home as early as possible Sorry to see that mate. I hope you enjoy those years. Just been through more medical issues with my dad. He's got Alzheimer's and lives in an aged care home. Recently he's been hit with pneumonia and a seizure, and wasn't looking good there for a while. He's the youngest of four brothers and is the first to go to an aged care home due to his health.
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Two things from the last couple of pages: Life is too short to commute and not eat bacon. Cornholer: if you have kiddos which it sounds like you do don't do the commute. After having always assumed jobs were going to be 40 minutes one way forever and now being 8 miles door to door the extra hours of life you gain back are incredible. I can be home, BS with the family for a bit, take my seat on the porcelain throne for a bit all before some people leave their office. The alternative is this; leave your company but stay in-industry so that you can return to present company in a year or so and negotiate new employment compensation as well as position. Sadly it seems this is how you get ahead these days compared to our parents where 'stay at your workplace until you retire and you'll be the man on top of the mountain'.
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Insurance in this country is insane. I picked the insurance plan I have currently because a good friend of mine was already working there and in the same situation(company is in SF, we both lived in Seattle at the time), so she recommended that I get the same plan she had, since it "only cost me $5k out of pocket when I had breast cancer". *only* $5k. And thats good apparently? This is what happens when you have a good tech job and *good* insurance. Hell even with our insurance, my wifes prescription for a biologic drug was over $2k per month. Thankfully they have some discount system, and it still costs us ~$250 a month. also, gently caress commuting. I used to live ~6 miles from my office in downtown Seattle, and my normal drive home if I left after ~4pm was 45 minutes. Hell, on day it took me 30 minutes to make it the 1 mile from my parking garage to the aurora onramp. Thankfully my boss was cool and let me start/end my day from home, so I would show up around 10:30 and leave at ~3, then go home and finish working. Now I work remote 100% and its great. It kinda sucks right now since we are remodeling our house and have a ghetto office down in my basement, but anything is better than commuting in this city. slurry_curry fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Apr 10, 2017 |
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Honestly I would be fine with our current, hosed up system if it applied to everyone equally. But instead we have Medicare and Medicaid so the hosed up high deductibles only apply to wage slaves. And nothing gets changed cause got mine gently caress you.
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slurry_curry posted:also, gently caress commuting. I used to live ~6 miles from my office in downtown Seattle, and my normal drive home if I left after ~4pm was 45 minutes. Hell, on day it took me 30 minutes to make it the 1 mile from my parking garage to the aurora onramp. Thankfully my boss was cool and let me start/end my day from home, so I would show up around 10:30 and leave at ~3, then go home and finish working. Now I work remote 100% and its great. It kinda sucks right now since we are remodeling our house and have a ghetto office down in my basement, but anything is better than commuting in this city. When I lived in Seattle, we lived in Belltown, right next to the pink elephant. I had to commute every day to Bellevue. Had to drive either on the $10 toll bridge or the hour long traffic free bridge. I once got stuck on Mercer in one spot and didn't move at all through 3 red light cycles. That's when I swore wherever we moved to next I would not have a commute longer than 10 minutes. Now I'm a 10 minute drive from work and I can ride my bike here in 20 minutes. It's pretty great. But gently caress Seattle traffic.
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:Zapping stops the heart to attempt to let it restart normally on its own, because it's having a feedback loop of bad electrical activity. Yeah that TV/movie "HE'S FLATLINING!" and using a defribilator is pretty much BS. Glad your dad's OK man that's rough. 
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Getting married to a beautiful goonette  in about two hours. Haven't had a second thought ever, but I felt like I was going to pass out a minute ago while sitting in a chair. That's normal, right?
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funny Star Wars parody posted:Very normal Good luck with the nuptials!
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Rhyno posted:I'll give this a whirl tonight, thanks dude. The app has me doing all kinds of specialized body variations and I'm like "do I really need to do calf and shoulder shrugs?" Starting Strength is a pretty decent program to look at as well. It's all big compound lifts, 5x5, with continual progression. It's built to lit 3 days a week and do your cardio after or on down days, though. Squat/bench/dead one day, squat/military press/dead the other to start, swapping one deadlift day for power cleans once the deads get too heavy to do every time. My numbers are way lower than before I had abdominal surgery last year, but the progression is motivating.
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BraveUlysses posted:5k is pretty good when you consider that cancer can easily hit 6 figures Very true, but this was breast cancer that was thankfully caught very early and dealt with via surgery. No chemo, no long drawn out anything. It is insane want it costs to get sick in this country.
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slurry_curry posted:*only* $5k. And thats good apparently? This is what happens when you have a good tech job and *good* insurance. I worked for HP between 2013 and 2015, even their "good" plan had a $3200 out of pocket maximum. Unless you can afford to pay through the nose for insurance or have a union job seems high deductible insurance is the name of the game anymore. The company I interviewed with two weeks ago offers a $3200 OOPM policy but they have the decency to pay all but 5% of your premiums, really hoping they call me back this week. Otherwise I have to start a job hunt in earnest - I've been half-assing it to satisfy the unemployment requirements of two per week.
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Geoj posted:I worked for HP between 2013 and 2015, even their "good" plan had a $3200 out of pocket maximum. huh, I worked for HP at the same time(late 2013 to late 2015). I think my current job has slightly better than what HP offered me at the time, but honestly I didn't pay that much attention to it.
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Axed as a part of the split? I got my walking papers in March of 2015. Still convinced my manager did me a favor - I was re-employed by the time the first round of layoffs hit, and there's no way I would have lasted much past now. I worked on Nonstop (highly redundant/stable database server) which is one of the product lines getting outsourced to whatever company (CSC?) was assuming most of their enterprise contracts.
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funny Star Wars parody posted:Very normal Seminal Flu posted:Good luck with the nuptials! Thanks guys. To bring this back to Automotive Insanity, let me not suggest getting a late start on the drive to your own wedding if you're in Hawaii. The drivers are the chilliest I've ever seen, but never exceeding 38 in a 50 when you're late is a mite frustrating.
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Geoj posted:Axed as a part of the split? Nah, ended up on the HPE side, left a couple months after it happened, mostly just because of the job offer I got for my current gig. I worked on the HPCS side running a internal private cloud used to develop dbaas/lbass/etc services. Pretty sure they have all but shut down the Seattle office I worked in, they kinda hated the little division I was a part of.
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Jebus, those insurance premiums and deductibles. Everyone in my company bitches about the current health plan, because the premiums keep going up, and so do the deductibles max OOP, but after seeing the stuff in the last page or two, I think I'm pretty happy with it. $70/month premium, $800 deductible and approx $2000 max OOP (I forget the exact number, but it's near there). Standard doctor co-pay is $25 and specialist are $40. That's where the biggest percentage increases have happened, just 4 years ago it was $10/$20 for PCP/Specialist.
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The Locator posted:Jebus, those insurance premiums and deductibles. Everyone in my company bitches about the current health plan, because the premiums keep going up, and so do the deductibles max OOP, but after seeing the stuff in the last page or two, I think I'm pretty happy with it. Ya same, though my wife works for a hospital and they actually do a good job of health insurance
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It's only Monday and I just want to sit down with a nice glass of scotch. Holy hell I need a new job.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Genuine loss. John Clarke was truly exceptional - Clarke and Dawes is brilliant political satire. AI should like his turn as an honest car salesman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T9DSgEclPA
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The Locator posted:Jebus, those insurance premiums and deductibles. Everyone in my company bitches about the current health plan, because the premiums keep going up, and so do the deductibles max OOP, but after seeing the stuff in the last page or two, I think I'm pretty happy with it. As of this month, I'm paying $415 as a single guy in my mid-30's who doesn't smoke (but is billed as a smoker because I didn't get the notarized forms in in time). gently caress this company's insurance offerings forever, I paid over $3k out of pocket last year to have my gallbladder removed. Two more weeks and I don't have to worry about it, new gig is a high deductible plan but zero premiums and a HSA the company kicks into every year.
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Congratulations MZ! If the wedding's in Hawaii, where's the honeymoon got to be that's better than Hawaii? Our new Bar Manager has started to get into some minor scrapes with other managers and the owners, so she decided to start training one of the girls to be the new Assistant General Manager and training me to be ABM on the sly I don't care much about their slapfights or power plays, but I'm just happy to be back behind the bar more often. Our only bartenders are currently a flaky, weirdo mother, a 35 year old alt-girl, and a chick who is 8 months pregnant. None of them are tall or strong enough to do all of what's expected of closing/opening bartenders, but the GM wants only women behind the bar  cakesmith handyman posted:Whatever it was they did he "died" in the ambulance with my mum sat there beside him. So I'm here at my mum's keeping her company rather than in support of my dad, who is already scheming to be let home as early as possible The good news is that he's in good enough shape to want to leave, just make sure he keeps up with therapy and diet. That poo poo is no joke Hopefully he doesn't terrify everyone again
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BuckyDoneGun posted:AI should like his turn as an honest car salesman: I'm pretty sure hats the guy who played jango fett
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the spyder posted:It's only Monday and I just want to sit down with a nice glass of scotch. Holy hell I need a new job. Agreed, tho I might be sitting in a bar. Less job related, but finding out the fitting that the plumber put on my hot water heater 2 weeks ago has been leaking and slowly trying to flood my basement. Thankfully I just needed to tighten the fitting, but this plumber has been a loving pain in my rear end. Everything else with the remodel has been going really well at least. I just hope I don't ha e to sue this plumber.
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Rhyno posted:I doubled the weight I used yesterday and lifted and NOW I'm feeling it! There we go. Just make sure your form is correct so you're safe.
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Thanks for the encouraging words everyone  Now his scare is over I need to think about myself as before yesterday I didn't know his side of the family all died of heart issues.slurry_curry posted:Hell even with our insurance, my wifes prescription for a biologic drug was over $2k per month. Thankfully they have some discount system, and it still costs us ~$250 a month. The discount scheme sounds like "don't pay the artificially inflated prices that are created for insurance purposes" Relevant to healthcare chat, the total bill my parents face for ambulance ride, emergency medical scientific goings-on, CICU stay etc is about £20 in assorted parking fees to come visit. Yall should try some of this NHS bullshit, seriously. Rhyno posted:I doubled the weight I used yesterday and lifted and NOW I'm feeling it! All this weight chat makes me want to start lifting. That's good for your heart right? cakesmith handyman fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Apr 11, 2017 |
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