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Some hot takes on the new spoilers: Zombies are sick, Nissa is not good, Green God is loving stupid and very good. His pump ability means all you need is a freaking bear to enable him. He also attacks for a ton of damage and has some flavor text about having death touch because he's a snake. But really, that card is gonna mess people up.
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Entropic posted:Well that's just nuts. It can turn itself on (adding 7 power to the board) for 3 mana as long as you control any 3-power creature.
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mcmagic posted:Why does a 5/5 beater need death touch? What is this losing in combat to? Metalwork Colossus (lol)
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Entropic posted:Well that's just nuts. It can turn itself on (adding 7 power to the board) for 3 mana as long as you control any 3-power creature. You don't even have to attack with the other creatures, you can just start slamming with an indestructible 5/5 on turn 4. What blocks that? I guess it doesn't have trample itself, so they can keep chumping it with tokens or something, realistically you're probably swinging with it and a 5/3 trample at least. Snake God is a beating. 5/2 Trample. (Scrapheap Scrounger.) It also just comes down on curve to crew your HoK...
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Deathtouch on big creatures is not redundant because it punishes otherwise favorable double-blocks. Of course, this guy happens to also be indestructible making that pointless. -- The most surprising thing about Nissa to me is not the unusual design, but rather that a core Gatewatch member went gold.
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Apr 11, 2017 16:12
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I think Snek might find a place in Modern somewhere, he turns on pretty quick and he's fairly efficient at punching in for damage.
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He also dodges Grasp, holy poo poo. Is there anything in the format that answers him beyond, like, pacifism effects?
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Guys a 5/5 deathtouch indestructible for 3 is fine, but desert is way too strong to reprint
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Apr 11, 2017 16:13
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Jabor posted:He also dodges Grasp, holy poo poo. Dec in Stone? Anguished Unmaking? Counterspells? The new instant speed cycling Oblivion Ring? Stasis Snare?
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Apr 11, 2017 16:14
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Jabor posted:He also dodges Grasp, holy poo poo. Killing everything else I guess
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Apr 11, 2017 16:15
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Firebatgyro posted:Guys a 5/5 deathtouch indestructible for 3 is fine, but desert is way too strong to reprint Desert makes combat math miserable and slows the game down, it's good they didn't reprint it.
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Jabor posted:He also dodges Grasp, holy poo poo.
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Apr 11, 2017 16:16
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Your answer to Snake God should not be sweepers or blocking it. It's pretty trivial to turn this guy on so you're going to want to answer it on a more permanent basis.
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Apr 11, 2017 16:17
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TheKingofSprings posted:I think Snek might find a place in Modern somewhere, he turns on pretty quick and he's fairly efficient at punching in for damage. I thought that it would be an interesting 1 of in suicide jund due to the synergy with big/cheap creature and the ability to give trample to one of them.
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Apr 11, 2017 16:18
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Stasis Snare is still a card.
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Apr 11, 2017 16:18
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That guy is super high on the groan test for limited though. The four power guy doesn't even have to attack with him.
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I couldn't tell you why, but I feel like Fragmentize is going to be a main deck card in AKH standard
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Alaan posted:That guy is super high on the groan test for limited though. The four power guy doesn't even have to attack with him. Yeah, unless you are already imminently winning with fliers or something, seeing Snek God hit the board is just going to be miserable. Basically any other creature turns him on and good luck keeping an indestructible 5/5 at bay for long. The deathtouch even matters, 'cause it's not uncommon to have a 5/6 or a 6/6 or something as a top end in a limited deck, and that would normally hold off a big threat like this.
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Card is very good if not almost broken. Going to have to try playtesting one in Abzan, because Gideon turns him on very easily and it isn't hard to get a snake or Rishkar to 4 power. I don't think it is a format warping card like Gideon is though.
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Apr 11, 2017 16:26
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GeneX posted:There's almost certainly going to be some "desert matters" cards in the next set, so maybe this is just an enabler Yeah Maro said in the last Making Magic that it's a small subtheme in this set that gets expanded on in HoD
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Apr 11, 2017 16:27
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mcmagic posted:Why does a 5/5 beater need death touch? What is this losing in combat to?  
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Apr 11, 2017 16:32
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3 of the 5 mainstay PWs in a single set. They've since got the memo, but again, what were they thinking? Don't copy cat the hero model. Be trendsetters yourself. Recognize what drew people in and what allowed the game to soar in popularity in the first place.
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Apr 11, 2017 16:39
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Rinkles posted:Recognize what drew people in and what allowed the game to soar in popularity in the first place. I don't think we can have Ravnica block after Ravnica block.
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Apr 11, 2017 16:46
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They should just relegate the Jacetice league to intro deck walkers while putting the spicy poo poo in the actual set. Everybody wins!
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Half a doubling season? Even if this is bad people will try to build around it. This kind of card is catnip for Johnnies.
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Apr 11, 2017 17:08
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That Nissa and green god seem good. And is that... half of doubling season?
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Apr 11, 2017 17:08
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This and any embalm creature
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Well, colorshifted Parallel Lives more accurately. Hmm, works with clues? I'll try it and lose horribly.
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Apr 11, 2017 17:13
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Jabor posted:Requiring you to have cards in hand sucks because it rewards you for not playing your spells. It also only exists in this set on a single Mythic, as far as we've seen. I agree, cards which require you to have a full hand are bad. Thats why WotC should remove Library of Alexandria from the reserved list.
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Apr 11, 2017 17:16
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Is that a youtube time bar? I wish it would go on a bit to a different card.
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I think green god might deserve a slot as a one-of in abzan company. Pump one of your random stupid grizzly bears or double pump a bird and get in there.
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uninverted posted:I think green god might deserve a slot as a one-of in abzan company. Pump one of your random stupid grizzly bears or double pump a bird and get in there. Or you know, Gavony Township with finks unpersisted asa combat trick. Wow what a neat God.
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Apr 11, 2017 18:14
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Rinkles posted:woah Man, you would think wizards would have learned their lesson with 2 cmc plainswalkers with jace.
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Apr 11, 2017 18:33
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Meatbag Esq. posted:Man, you would think wizards would have learned their lesson with 2 cmc plainswalkers with jace. This is a 3 CMC walker. You can't play it for 2.
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Apr 11, 2017 18:34
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mcmagic posted:This is a 3 CMC walker. You can't play it for 2. I think you'll find that the cmc of the card is 2 and also it is legal to play it for 2.
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Apr 11, 2017 18:36
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Dr. Stab posted:I think you'll find that the cmc of the card is 2 and also it is legal to play it for 2. I mean, if you really need to pump your goyf for 2 mana, knock yourself out.
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Entropic posted:I mean, if you really need to pump your goyf for 2 mana, knock yourself out. I don't know why you have to be so snippy. Engineered Explosives needs 2 charge counters to get her. Mindshrieker gets +2/+2. She's a 2-CMC planeswalker card. This is a fact.
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Pretty sure Nissa is busted. She lets you deploy 2 threats at once if played late, acts as card selection/ramp early, and can come down as a hasty finisher. She basically has lovely cascade. That said, she does want a banty deck that plays lots of creatures rather than straight UG
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