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Congratulations people of Paraguay.
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ZearothK posted:Congratulations people of Paraguay.
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Apr 1, 2017 14:06
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Exactly the correct reaction. I'm proud of you.
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Paraguay is going through some interesting times, alright. One of the activist leaders got shot in the head by the police.
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Almost sounds like the police let protesters storm congress as an excuse to then hunt them down.
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If so, it was a huge gamble. Events like these can easily swing the other way and show just how fragile the structures of power really are. But then again, South America is not really gifted with smart leaders at the moment.
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If Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela and Peru are any indications, every single presidential candidate in South America for the forseeable future is going to say the elections are fixed.
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It only makes sense! Heck, in the US Trump said it was fixed and just upped the accusations AFTER winning. The West doesn't -do- dignity anymore. It's mud-wrestling all the way now.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:If Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela and Peru are any indications, every single presidential candidate in South America for the forseeable future is going to say the elections are fixed. Honestly, I've been hearing about fixed elections around here in Brazil since I was a kid, when FHC won the elections some people said they were fixed because he was the pro-FMI candidate and the CIA wanted him, when Lula and Dilma won the other people were saying they were fixed through hacking and part of a communist plot. It is partly a legacy of having been a dictatorship where elections were meaningless just a few decades ago, and before that a republic where elections more often than not were blatantly fixed, and you can add to that the fact that Brazillians tend to be amazingly sore losers.
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There is also the fact that for a long time elections in Brazil were indeed rigged, or at least attempted, as the proconsult case in 1982.
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 Globo.txt For non-Portuguese speaking goons: "Recession and unemployment reduce inflation and return purchasing power to Brazilians"
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"Rents more affordable after nuclear holocaust."
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CROSS POSTING Ecuador's Presidential elections took place on last Sunday April 2. So far there have been extensive protests on the largest cities in Ecuador. Ths is because the process was lagued with irregularities to such a degree that peole suspect there was fraud. First, most exit polls gave the victroy to Guillermo Lasso, from the opposition party CREO, over Lenin Moreno, from Alianza PAIS; except th eone done by the government. Around 5 pm, the Consejo Nacional Electoral (CNE), which is the goverment entity that oversees the elections and is supposed to be independet but is not (it is headed by a close ally of the president), had only counted around 20% of the actas nationwide. Actas are docuements that registed the number of ballots cast in each ballot box, as well as how many votes each candidate got (and blank and null votes). These are filled by the people manning the boxes at the end of voting day and are used for tallying the votes by the CNE. This process could be seen online in the web page of the CNE. However at 5 pm, the webpage went down for about 20 min inexplicably. After it came back up, Lenin was ahead in the count. At the end of the day it was visible that Lenin, according to the info provided by the CNE, was going to be proclaimed the winner. CREO, the opposition party claimed that what had happened was impossible, and that it was looking into a lot of irregularities that had come up claiming that a lot of the actas that appeared up in the CNE webpage were forged and differed from the copies that CREO had in their posession. The said that, because they were finding more and more each day, and because they had to wait until the CNE proclaimed the official results based on counting the 100% of the cast votes before they could even legally present a claim, they would wait to show the evidence. On Wednesday, because a lot of tine had already passed, and the CNE had not announced the results (it still has not, because they are stalling so people lose hope and normalize this poo poo) as well as the protests that had erupted across the country; Lasso held a press conference were they claimed to have identified around 1700 actas that had irregularities. which represented arounf 592000 total votes. These irregularities include: - A difference between the votes given to Lasso and Lenin between the copy of the document held by CREO and the copy up in the CNE website. - Documents that are missing the signature by the jefe de mesa (table leader, basically the person that is designated ti be responsible for a ballot bot, each box being placed on a table, hence the name) or documents that have different signatures between the two copies. A lot of these documents also suffer from the irregularity listed above. Just today, in the fifth day of protests, CREO held another press conference where they claimed to have identified another 2448 actas with irregularities giving a total of 4243 representing 1.261.546 cast votes. They also presented a document calling for the recount of all the votes, because the government is stalling tis duty to show the official results (They just announced they were not going to be ready until April 29th). However the government has been busy tying to legitimize its candidate as the new President elect. They have been using goverment owned media (They have an extensive network of tv network, radio stations and newspaper(s?) that they have amassed in the last 10 years) to try and paint the protests as violent, and the recount effort as innecessary and illegal. This is not new as they used this extensive machinery in the first and second round of elections to campaign for Lenin Moreno (who is basically the Ecuadorian version of Maduro, right down to the stupidity). They also called CEDATOS, a pollster that was hired by CREO to do polls during the campaign and do exit polls on voting day, as fraudulent because their exit poll differed by a lot from the results given by the CNE. Even the president, Rafael Correa, has said the they should be legally processed for trying to forge documents and inciting violence with their "made up" results. And now thing have scalated. Today Cedatos, have had their offices raided by the police. Just an hour ago, they raided the offices of Central, the ad agency thet worked for the CREO campaign. Protest are continuing and are bigger every day. I'm writing this because most people outside of Ecuador don't know what is happening here. Or giverment lacks a prper separation of powers, it is all virtually controlled by Alianza Pais. Most international news networks have no idea of the political climate of the country to put the recent events in a proper context. I am afraid that things will now escalate to real violence, because the government is not going to relent. They have stolen so much in the past 10 years (look up Odebrecht for an example) that they fear what a proper real investigation into their asses will bring. P.S. Sorry for any grammatical mistakes
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Guacamayo posted:CROSS POSTING Taking a page from the Mexican elections of 1988.
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Hey, so someone in the Venezuela trainwreck thread mention a big river filled with sewage and stuff, and that reminded me of the Rio olympics and the close scrutiny of the environmental disaster there. Is keeping the evironment/water clean and doing proper waste disposal a huge issue in south america in general?
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Pharohman777 posted:Hey, so someone in the Venezuela trainwreck thread mention a big river filled with sewage and stuff, and that reminded me of the Rio olympics and the close scrutiny of the environmental disaster there. It's hard for poor countries to care for the environment when it costs money to do so.
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fnox posted:It's hard for poor countries to care for the environment when it costs money to do so. Sorry, but that cant be our excuse for everything Speaking for Brazil, there was plenty of money to clean up RJ waters: quote:An essential part of Rio’s bid for the games was a promise to clean the bay, and in 2011 the state secured $452 million in international funding for the effort (that on top of almost $800 million, also from international sources, in the 1990s). But on the eve of the games, at most only half the sewage that flows toward Guanabara is treated. That’s the official estimate from the people who have failed to meet their stated goal of 80 percent. Others scoff and say the real number is more like 20 percent or 30 percent. It was wasted or disappeared, and the woman in charge of managing the cleaning operation was murdered (https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-unsolved-murder-in-rio/).
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https://twitter.com/casarosadaar/status/853696176176209921 The Kirchneristas tweet so goddamn much.
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Well, here is some happy news: there was a 7.1 Earthquake off the coast of Valparaiso, but there has been no damage or injuries in Chile. (I heard that the Valpo metro was shut down, but I don't think that is a problem) I mean, certain things do actually function! 
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And Agustín Edwards is dead! Everything's coming up Chile 
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Non Serviam posted:Chile takes on all disasters Besides a centimeter of rain (in Santiago, in Chiloë that is just a slow hour)
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SexyBlindfold posted:And Agustín Edwards is dead! Everything's coming up Chile Talk about death throes.
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Are there any good leaders/parties in Latin America?Guacamayo posted:CROSS POSTING So was it likely rigged? punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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Tomorrow Brasil will have it's biggest general strike in years over a labor reform bill that has just passed in congress, it includes things like "free" bargaining away of vacations and work hours up to 12h a day, flexibilization for all job posts, and lots of other bullshit measures, police already have their orders to disperse protestors in São Paulo and other cities, stay tuned, tomorrow will be newsworthy.
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bagual posted:Tomorrow Brasil will have it's biggest general strike in years over a labor reform bill that has just passed in congress, it includes things like "free" bargaining away of vacations and work hours up to 12h a day, flexibilization for all job posts, and lots of other bullshit measures, police already have their orders to disperse protestors in São Paulo and other cities, stay tuned, tomorrow will be newsworthy. https://twitter.com/patitaBr/status/857935682853109760 edit: translation: "I was going to work and was stopped by indians with bow and arrows! Not a joke!" That's in São Paulo/SP, of all places Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:Are there any good leaders/parties in Latin America? I can try an eventual effortpost on that, but yes, there were many notoriously good Latin American leaders. Their main problem, however, is that the overall political establishment was always reactionary as gently caress and colonially-minded. Basically, in terms of economy, imagine if the southern US had won the civil war. bagual posted:Tomorrow Brasil will have it's biggest general strike in years over a labor reform bill that has just passed in congress, it includes things like "free" bargaining away of vacations and work hours up to 12h a day, flexibilization for all job posts, and lots of other bullshit measures, police already have their orders to disperse protestors in São Paulo and other cities, stay tuned, tomorrow will be newsworthy. Eh, I honestly think this strike is being overrated as gently caress because CUT lost all the goddamn sense, PT labor organizing has become a joke and lmao people think in strategies from the 80s. The left has no future in this country if it thinks it can bring a general strike using only protected categories. People who should be stopping and didn't get a whiff from unions: drivers, "motoboys" (courier services here), cashiers, supermarket workers, teamsters... If I go downstairs my building's doorman is here, and he should be raising loving hell because he works two jobs. But he doesn't feel represented by them. That is the real, true and largest historic failure of the left in the modern republican period.
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Elias_Maluco posted:https://twitter.com/patitaBr/status/857935682853109760 I'm the frog emoji
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Meanwhile, Uber has decided to go full Coxinha and will give free rides to Sao Paulo city workers that decide to go to work.
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joepinetree posted:Meanwhile, Uber has decided to go full Coxinha and will give free rides to Sao Paulo city workers that decide to go to work. goddamn gently caress I hate Uber but here they will be hailed as entrepreneurial heroes instead of the shitstorm they got in that socialist bastion known as the United States
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joepinetree posted:Meanwhile, Uber has decided to go full Coxinha and will give free rides to Sao Paulo city workers that decide to go to work. Actually they took it back http://epoca.globo.com/tecnologia/e...artilharDesktop
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Elias_Maluco posted:Actually they took it back But they are still giving discounts to people who use it during their rush hour.
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dead comedy forums posted:I can try an eventual effortpost on that, but yes, there were many notoriously good Latin American leaders. Their main problem, however, is that the overall political establishment was always reactionary as gently caress and colonially-minded. Mandatory union dues are also going away, so Brazillian unions are on the way out. It's going to take a generation and a lot of abuse before we get a real left going again in Brazil.
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Well, probably a 1 day paralisation just before a holiday weekend won't have the bombastic effect this strike has been sold as having, but it's still nice to see liberals fuming on social media pictured: franciscan monks, on strike. latin_america.jpg
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dead comedy forums posted:I can try an eventual effortpost on that, but yes, there were many notoriously good Latin American leaders. Their main problem, however, is that the overall political establishment was always reactionary as gently caress and colonially-minded. This is a problem that's not confined to Brazil or South America, I can see the same dynamic working even here in the northern socialist utopia of Finland. More and more people are doing time-limited contract work (contracts with a time-limit and no automatic renewal), and their interests go without representation in traditional unions. I mean it's probably not as bad as Brazil, but everywhere I look, I see the old structures of organized labour falling apart.
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https://twitter.com/LulapeloBrasil/status/858000208986353664 oooooooooooooh boy
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It depends on both labor culture and legal framework - labor laws (and, more importantly, labor courts) in Chile are mildly pro-union... when there is an union. So corporations tend to settle into structures that make it impossible for unions to form - namely by sub-dividing the companies into smaller and smaller subsidiaries (purely on paper, of course) so that none of them will have the minimum of 8 employees to form an union, or relying on third-party employees for a sizable portion of their workforce (I think it's what they call terceirização in Brazil?). As elsewhere in the world, there are specific areas where labor is still strong (namely miners, teachers, among others) but for the most part unionizing rates have been plummeting for the last couple of decades.
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