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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:I always have a hard time squaring just exactly what HoF voters take into account in their votes (much like everyone else), but it clearly isn't entirely about stats. Bettis is famous even to casual football fans, and was still the 5th all-time leading rusher when he retired. Every back that's retired in the top 10 in the modern era has gotten into the hall I don't think that's quite true, I believe Ottis Anderson would have been #8 when he retired in 1992. It's probably a good way to avoid the hall by having your best years on the Cardinals too. You're mostly right though, he might be the only one in the modern game. e: Interesting that he's all the way down to 28 now, since 1992 we've gone through a bunch of great feature backs and then gone to most teams being RB by committee.
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Friend of mine and I are in an argument. Peterson or Tomlinson if you could draft them this year? It has to be Tomlinson right?
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SunshineDanceParty posted:Friend of mine and I are in an argument. Peterson or Tomlinson if you could draft them this year? It has to be Tomlinson right? I think it has to be LdT, yeah. Tomlinson was great at catching out of the backfield and picking up blocks in pass protection. He's just overall a better player all-around even if he might not be as powerful a runner as AP.
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Joey Freshwater posted:When the hell are they going to announce Hard Knocks already? I want to see if my dumb lovely team is going to be featured or not. It's gonna be the Bucs....or maybe the Titans.
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Titans I feel would be super boring. That'd be cool though
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Demon Of The Fall posted:Titans I feel would be super boring. That'd be cool though erotic smashmouth
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SunshineDanceParty posted:Friend of mine and I are in an argument. Peterson or Tomlinson if you could draft them this year? It has to be Tomlinson right? THIS year? Tomlinson. There might have been a time in football where having the pure workhorse runner was better, but Tomlinson was that AND a whole bunch of other things. He was not only the best RB in the game for a number of years, he was also one of the top receiving backs out of the backfield (if not the best), and one of the best RBs in pass protection (if not the best). Tomlinson's 2003 is still one of the most amazing RB seasons I've ever seen. I'm unashamedly biased on this subject, but I think you take Tomlinson without a second glance.
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Oh, remember Titus Young? He got four years in prison today for one of his many assaults that apparently keep happening because he's literally crazy. I'm sure prison won't help anything but at this point I don't know what would with him.
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BlindSite posted:Imo Tomlinson has an argument for being the best RB of all time. I think he's one of the top 2 or 3 all around backs of all time. There are a few RBs that did certain things better than Tomlinson, like Barry having better feet or Brown being a better downhill runner, but coming up with a list of names that did everything better than Tomlinson did is surprisingly difficult.
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wandler20 posted:It's gonna be the Bucs....or maybe the Titans. I'd be alright with it. Mike Evans owns.
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LT was also a better QB than any QB Peterson ever played with outside of late era Favre
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a neat cape posted:I think he's one of the top 2 or 3 all around backs of all time. There are a few RBs that did certain things better than Tomlinson, like Barry having better feet or Brown being a better downhill runner, but coming up with a list of names that did everything better than Tomlinson did is surprisingly difficult. Faulk seems like the go to comparison, but you can argue he wasn't the pure runner that LdT was.
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Grittybeard posted:Oh, remember Titus Young? He got four years in prison today for one of his many assaults that apparently keep happening because he's literally crazy. That's a shame. I remember at one point he got into a long fight or something at a phone store and was getting help because he was mentally ill but I guess that wasn't enough.
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Spoeank posted:LT was also a better QB than any QB Peterson ever played with outside of late era Favre
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No discussion of the best RBs of all time is complete without Jamaal Charles, who despite his injury-riddled last couple of seasons is still second only to Marion Motley in YPC among RBs, and Motley played in the goddamn 40s and 50s, and is a full 0.3 YPC ahead of the the third place Jim Brown. And did so over 1300+ carries. For some reason I find it amusing that the 1st and 3rd place all-time YPC leaders both played practically their entire careers in Cleveland.
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Kalli posted:That's a shame. I remember at one point he got into a long fight or something at a phone store and was getting help because he was mentally ill but I guess that wasn't enough. Yeah I guess he left an inpatient mental health facility when he attacked someone that led to these charges. It's a really sad story and I have no clue how it could have been done differently aside from locking him away. Or preventing him from playing football if you believe his dad about concussions, but that's not really something for the courts to deal with at any point before he actually assaults people.
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I was reading up on running backs because of all the Bettis/LdT/Gore talk and Clinton Portis is someone that's really frequently forgotten by NFL history He missed the 10k club by 80 yards and had an incredible first two seasons in the NFL (attributable to the excellent blocking of the early 00s Denver OL) and a really drat good 3rd and 4th season (despite his YPC dropping off by nearly 20%) If he hadn't gotten injured in 2006 he'd be regarded as a top-20 RB of all-time
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I will never forget Portis running all over the Chiefs for 5 TDs in 2003
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Since we were talking about Tomlinson, I made myself sad by watching old high light reels and was so happy when one of them had probably my all time favorite single LdT run on it. It was against the Vikings and I'm pretty sure it was in 2003, and god loving damnit it was great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uobvJ95PxdY&t=82s
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Eli Wiggum posted:I will never forget Portis running all over the Chiefs for 5 TDs in 2003 For how good that team was in every other phase of the game, defensively that's like Alabama playing Portland State or whatever non-con cupcake.
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Shangri-Law School posted:Are we talking about Jerome Bettis? This seems outdated, the Patriots have 5 Super Bowl wins.
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SunshineDanceParty posted:Friend of mine and I are in an argument. Peterson or Tomlinson if you could draft them this year? It has to be Tomlinson right? 100% dependent on what offense you'd want to run.
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GaussianCopula posted:This seems outdated, the Patriots have 5 Super Bowl wins.
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2006, 2016, what's the difference?
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Eli Wiggum posted:That's because it came out in 2006, which is long before you started watching I had no idea the Pats already had 6 super bowl wins.
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Volkerball posted:100% dependent on what offense you'd want to run. You'd build the offense around the player you pick
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I forgot that we're losing out beat writers in the move to Las Vegas. We're getting something called Michael Gehlkin
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Blitz7x posted:I forgot that we're losing out beat writers in the move to Las Vegas. We're getting something called Michael Gehlkin Omfg what's going to happen to Romanowski and Lorenzo neal on csn?! They're coming to Vegas, right?
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Blitz7x posted:I forgot that we're losing out beat writers in the move to Las Vegas. We're getting something called Michael Gehlkin He was the Chargers beat writer at the San Diego Union Tribune last year
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the rich get richer, thanks afc eastquote:Writing on ESPN.com (Insider content), Schatz detailed the analytics that led his Football Outsiders team to a most surprising conclusion: The Patriots currently project to have the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2017. http://www.espn.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4802397/football-outsiders-patriots-have-easiest-schedule-in-2017
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No Butt Stuff posted:lol, NE doesn't beat KC in the regular season. Unless KC needs to run a 2 minute drill in under 5 minutes to clinch it. e: To contribute something other than a smartass remark, let's see what FO says about how injured teams were last year: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2017/2016-adjusted-games-lost code:
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evilweasel posted:the rich get richer, thanks afc east That's not a surprising conclusion. They have a bottom 5 schedule like every year.
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Because all non-patriot afc East teams are garbage and will be for the foreseeable future
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