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Martout posted:that did the trick cheers, I knew about the wise machines thing but thought them coming back was a bug it is almost certainly the quest after fully upgrading all weapons
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RoadCrewWorker posted:And "optimizing" out on the savepoint display chip royally hosed me in the Tower, which was genuinely hilarious. I didn't even know you could save there until I saw in a stream. I'm really glad I didn't die at that point 
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Fedule posted:Grand Spectacle Platinum End Bosses: They should've added a single QTE in the game a punch rush between you and text-Yosuke Matsuda
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Fangz posted:Nietzsche killed all of Pascal's friends. Holy poo poo
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really queer Christmas posted:I didn't even know you could save there until I saw in a stream. I'm really glad I didn't die at that point 
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Apr 11, 2017 09:51
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Just finished ending B of Nier 1, man that is a brilliant flawed gem. I think the story and characters are stronger although I'm looking forward to redoing Automata soon now that I know all the Nier 1 shenanigans. The Fyra scene made me tear up and I basically never tear up at videogames, the voice acting sold the poo poo out of it though.
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Mazerunner posted:it is almost certainly the quest after fully upgrading all weapons oh lame, it's not even possible to have most of the weapons at that point
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OK, I think I'm doing something wrong, because the intro keeps wrecking me. How do you fight those giant excavators? It took me two tries to get past the first one and then the next time there were suddenly two of those bastards! I just couldn't get past the dynamic dredger duo. Those things are so huge I can't even evade, is the only solution to give up on normal and go to easy? (Also while playing the game is fun, it's not fun to retry the intro again and again, why is there no way to save??  )
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Apr 11, 2017 18:39
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You can chain evades basically forever without cooldown. Yes, the game shouldn't assume people know or try that. Yes, the keyboard control makes doing it much harder than the controller scheme. Also play on easy or normal, it'll eventually let you save and you'll know when, set the diffculty to what you feel is appropriate afterwards. You can always change it and there is absolutely no consequence for going easy or very hard. RoadCrewWorker fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Apr 11, 2017 |
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Apr 11, 2017 18:43
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From TDI's LP thread, but answering here to stay spoiler free in there.The Sandman posted:I just hope to eventually see where the hell the other Sound Data items are, because damned if I know where to find them.
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Libluini posted:OK, I think I'm doing something wrong, because the intro keeps wrecking me. How do you fight those giant excavators? It took me two tries to get past the first one and then the next time there were suddenly two of those bastards! I just couldn't get past the dynamic dredger duo. If you don't wanna chain evade, observe the pattern of the discs. In the initial one you dodge the vertical slashes by going side to side, and the horizontal slash by going forwards towards the arm. For the twins there's a gap between the two sets of disks.
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RoadCrewWorker posted:You can chain evades basically forever without cooldown. Yes, the game shouldn't assume people know or try that. Yes, the keyboard control makes doing it much harder than the controller scheme. Well, I noticed I could chain evades together, this didn't prevent me from getting a face full of excavation equipment multiple times. As a side comment, not allowing you to save during a long, grueling sequence of never ending combat is very bad game design, holy poo poo. My reaction to the intro was basically: 1st attempt: Wow, this is fun! 2nd attempt: Welp, still fun 3rd attempt: Ugh, again? That's not a good first impression. But I guess if the game is loving me over this way, I shouldn't hold back either. Even if playing on easy feels like cheating, somehow. Fangz posted:If you don't wanna chain evade, observe the pattern of the discs. In the initial one you dodge the vertical slashes by going side to side, and the horizontal slash by going forwards towards the arm. For the twins there's a gap between the two sets of disks. You dodge the horizontal slash by going forward??! Isn't that like running into them and hoping for the best? Now I wish I could save before the fight and test different tactics, like in every RPG I played before this one, ever.
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Libluini posted:Well, I noticed I could chain evades together, this didn't prevent me from getting a face full of excavation equipment multiple times. The arc of the attack sweeps the back half of the area you are in, so if you are far enough forward it misses you as you go too close to it. (Or it might just swipe the front/back half of the area depending on which you were in when the attack starts, i'm not sure.) Fangz fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Apr 11, 2017 |
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Apr 11, 2017 18:58
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Fangz posted:The arc of the attack sweeps the back half of the area you are in, so if you are far enough forward it misses you as you go too close to it. Welp, that makes sense. Now is there a way to skip cut scenes and dialog? Because seeing as I can't save in the intro, and have to replay it a lot, that would help, too.
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Chain evades are basically infinite i-frames, right? That's been my experience. I don't think I have ever been hit while evading. Whenever I feel I'm in trouble I just mash evade until I'm far from danger. Always works out. I only die when I get greedy or I get overwhelmed quickly before I realize I'm about to die.
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Apr 11, 2017 19:04
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Libluini posted:Now is there a way to skip cut scenes and dialog? Because seeing as I can't save in the intro, and have to replay it a lot, that would help, too. Most cutscenes can be skipped by holding down one of the buttons, depending on your controller. My XBox 360 controller has it set to B. If you're using a different controller, just hit buttons at random and it should show you a prompt telling you what button to hold.
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Libluini posted:Welp, that makes sense. You should be able to smash some buttons to get a "hold B to skip" prompt. And yes, the prologue is probably the hardest part in the game due to your lack of tools. Bump it down to easy without worry, there aren't even any difficulty-related achievements.
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Vermain posted:Most cutscenes can be skipped by holding down one of the buttons, depending on your controller. My XBox 360 controller has it set to B. If you're using a different controller, just hit buttons at random and it should show you a prompt telling you what button to hold. f#a# posted:You should be able to smash some buttons to get a "hold B to skip" prompt. Thanks! Also, this is my first time playing a Yoko Taro game and it already goes like I expected it to go. Failing in the intro! At least I already got ending W unlocked, right? 
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Apr 11, 2017 19:15
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I died a few times in the demo when the first enemies who shoot projectiles at you first show up that suucked
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Got a controller, this game is so much more enjoyable now. I just have a few bad habits to break. Monster Hunter has me conditioned to dodge *into* attacks instead of away from them. I hosed sawblade guy up this time. Do you ever get to return to the starting area? I found a locked chest and it was taunting me. I don't care what's inside it, I won't let that chest win.
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Apr 11, 2017 22:01
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You do go back there, but only about ten thousand loving times...
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You actually do want to dodge into attacks because that's how you trigger perfect dodges.
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Actually about 20 minutes after you leave the starting area you get an email telling you that a weapon you dropped is back there. and yeah you'll be back there a lot lol, don't worry about locked chests until you get a chip that helps you out with them Actually, regarding backtracking, I don't mind it too much in this game. It almost hearkens back to my WoW days where I would amass a series of quests and derive a strange amount of enjoyment through mapping out how best to tackle five of 'em, taking into account where I had to go and where I needed to return to complete it. If you're not like me, though, don't stress out too hard about the quests. Sure, they give you good upgrade materials, but you'll unlock a chapter select way later in the game that will allow you to sweep up. f#a# fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Apr 11, 2017 |
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Can't think of a better place to put this, but as it's developed by Platinum, a port of Bayonetta has just dropped for the PC. Out of loving nowhere I might add  Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hyw2h7VX8Y Interview with Hideki Kamiya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laejK_ELZ1Y Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Apr 12, 2017 |
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Apr 12, 2017 01:38
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"Sad Bayonetta Lite" could be another name for this game, so I think it's appropriate.
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Now do Vanquish goddammit, that's the one that needs mouse + keyboard support.
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Irony.or.Death posted:Now do Vanquish goddammit, that's the one that needs mouse + keyboard support. I'd be fine with just going right to vanquish 2.
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YOTC posted:I'd be fine with just going right to vanquish 2. Since it's clear they've noticed the pc market it's a safe bet they will keep the pc platform in mind from now on. They're still a company that doesn't often make sequels, so Vanquish 1 PC is the most realistic thing to expect for now.
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Shinji Mikami is long gone from Platinum so Vanquish 2 probably won't happen.
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Oh hey, someone collected high quality achievement icons. Spoilers in the link. http://imgur.com/a/WQUAd Might make good avs.
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Nier is cool but its been shunted to the back of the queue because Bayonetta is god dam incredible.
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Robiben posted:Oh hey, someone collected high quality achievement icons.  
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Finally got around to playing more of this. I found Iron Will last night, and I cannot overstate my glee when I realized it wasn't the lovely, snapped-in-half form. Thanks for taking care of it, Nier. 
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dejavu I have drifted this boar before I'm so glad Boar Drifting stayed in, it was the DUMBEST thing and it's so good.
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Dias posted:dejavu I have drifted this boar before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d1mFfFxiVw
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I beat the first boss of route C and good lord was that a clusterfuck. Cool idea, but that fight was never going to run smoothly without a fixed camera angle. Playing it on Hard sounds like the worst idea ever. Does the roving shopkeeper ever show up on the map again after you complete his side quest?
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Rangpur posted:I beat the first boss of route C and good lord was that a clusterfuck. Cool idea, but that fight was never going to run smoothly without a fixed camera angle. Playing it on Hard sounds like the worst idea ever. Does the roving shopkeeper ever show up on the map again after you complete his side quest? I dunno, I had a lot of fun fighting Hegel on hard. Maybe I'm just broke-brained, but I thought that was actually kind of a fun and exhilarating fight.
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Hegel really needed to not have a constant sandstorm blocking most of the screen. Would have been a much better fight if you could actually see anything ever.
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When people make 30-minute youtube videos asking how anyone can call Nier: Automata a masterpiece and still only rate it a 9/10, the answer is Hegel.
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Bad Seafood posted:When people make 30-minute youtube videos asking how anyone can call Nier: Automata a masterpiece and still only rate it a 9/10, the answer is Hegel. Hegel is garbage, but The Zelda also has bad bossfights I've seen them with my own two eyes that's no excuse burn the witch I'd have liked that fight better if it was top-down view.
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