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The Muppets On PCP posted:bernie raised a ton of money yes, but from the wrong people
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Oh Snapple! posted:yes, but from the wrong people and if he actually cared he'd let Cory Booker bug them for money too 
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Concerned Citizen posted:They shouldn't spend money on races they're going to win anyway, either. The party intervenes when there's a reasonable chance their intervention can make the difference. saying "that seat isn't winnable this time" might be fine as a short-term strategy, but if you just ignore the seat altogether, it won't be winnable next time or the time after either. Writing off two-thirds of the country as "not winnable" is okay for a single race, but it's a dead-end as a long-term strategy: to gain ground back, the Dems need to invest in those states and work toward making some of those non-winnable states winnable. the Dems have been in decline so long because they've been repeatedly selling out the long-term future of the party in exchange for short-term gains
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Oh Snapple! posted:yes, but from the wrong people
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punk rebel ecks posted:So as oppose to corporate justices staying on the court for a couple of election life cycles and then they can be replaced or voted over they stay on a lifetime instead and take far longer to dwindle their numbers in the court.... With a lifetime appointment, they aren't subject to outside influences. With terms (especially short ones like you want) corporations can just buy them with promises of a cushy job at the other end. It happens the time in positions with term limits.
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money comes when you inspire the base, dooming and abandoning a district is not inspiring the base
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loquacius posted:My theory is that zegermans is a good dem with a serious trolling addiction I CAN'T STOP
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I haven't been following Kansas at all. Is there a shot?
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Fidel Castronaut posted:I haven't been following Kansas at all. Is there a shot? https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/851952228692762624 
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Fidel Castronaut posted:I haven't been following Kansas at all. Is there a shot? Nobody bothered polling it. The R campaign leaked an internal poll and it's the only available info at this point. The leaked poll says it's within a percentage point It's not. Thompson will come closer than any D in more than 10 years, but is fighting to finish within 10
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Main Paineframe posted:saying "that seat isn't winnable this time" might be fine as a short-term strategy, but if you just ignore the seat altogether, it won't be winnable next time or the time after either. Writing off two-thirds of the country as "not winnable" is okay for a single race, but it's a dead-end as a long-term strategy: to gain ground back, the Dems need to invest in those states and work toward making some of those non-winnable states winnable. the Dems have been in decline so long because they've been repeatedly selling out the long-term future of the party in exchange for short-term gains in terms of long-term, the right way to go isn't financial investments into a single race. we do that all the time, and all the work you build over the race is lost after e-day, then you have to rebuild from scratch the next time. the party needs to be making investments in improving the skill level of candidates, staff, and volunteers in those areas. and that's a more difficult task.
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In terms of long term giving a hobo a dollar ain't gonna solve racism.
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Stop promoting candidates and start promoting ideals.
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:With a lifetime appointment, they aren't subject to outside influences. With terms (especially short ones like you want) corporations can just buy them with promises of a cushy job at the other end. It happens the time in positions with term limits. term limits don't have anything to do with that, since judges can retire from the Supreme Court whenever
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ThndrShk2k posted:Stop promoting candidates and start promoting ideals. People don't vote for ideals.
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Bip Roberts posted:People don't vote for ideals. Make America Great Again!
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Bip Roberts posted:People don't vote for ideals. Guess that's why the more professional and articulate candidate defeated the raging demagogue this last election
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Candidates promote ideals If your candidate isn't promoting ideals you got a bad candidate there. If your party isn't promoting ideals you got a bad party there. Politics runs on political ideals, not on political identities.
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imho the government shouldnt be allowed to push ideals onto peopple
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*Bad Dem voice*: Is 'unwavering support for my corporate donors' an ideal?
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Fluoride Jones posted:Guess that's why the more professional and articulate candidate defeated the raging demagogue this last election yeah, she lost a personality contest to someone with zero ideals
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Bip Roberts posted:yeah, she lost a personality contest to someone with zero ideals Common mistake.
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Hey that's not fair, Hillary supported the ideal that military intervention in foreign conflicts is Cool and Good.
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MaxxBot posted:Hey that's not fair, Hillary supported the ideal that military intervention in foreign conflicts is Cool and Good. More than just being Hillary Clinton for sure.
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Main Paineframe posted:the Dems have been in decline so long because they've been repeatedly selling out the long-term future of the party in exchange for short-term gains Just like the corporations that fund them.
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Bip Roberts posted:yeah, she lost a personality contest to someone with zero ideals She lost a personality contest to someone with a personality is more like it.
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Concerned Citizen posted:in terms of long-term, the right way to go isn't financial investments into a single race. we do that all the time, and all the work you build over the race is lost after e-day, then you have to rebuild from scratch the next time. the party needs to be making investments in improving the skill level of candidates, staff, and volunteers in those areas. and that's a more difficult task. If only there were some way to provide experience for candidates, staff, and volunteers in those areas. If only there were some way that was possible. Drawing a blank here.
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Bip Roberts posted:yeah, she lost A race where almost anyone else in the country would have won.
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I keep reading the thread title as 'butt dems' and that's almost as good
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the dem might actually win in ks-04, it's looking really close
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if only the dnc had cpntributed even a smidgen more than zero fucks
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ex post facho posted:if only the dnc had cpntributed even a smidgen more than zero fucks If he somehow wins (he won't) you can bet your ads the bad Dems will retroactively claim it was their victory.
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Apr 12, 2017 02:12
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lmao if that dem barely loses it will be all on Perez
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Thoguh posted:If he somehow wins (he won't) you can bet your ads the bad Dems will retroactively claim it was their victory. #InTomWeTrust
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zegermans posted:lmao if that dem barely loses it will be all on Perez it'd be on ben lujan since house races are funded by house caucus
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i like how this thread thinks the dnc, dccc, and dscc all are the same thing
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Zikan posted:i like how this thread thinks the dnc, dccc, and dscc all are the same thing Too many Ds on the dance floor.
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fine we'll just start referring to the democrats collective incompetence and malfeasance aa the democratic party apparatus, or dpa the dpa sucks poo poo
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Zikan posted:i like how this thread thinks the dnc, dccc, and dscc all are the same thing They are.
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