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What's everyone's vote for the worst "Task" in the game? I'm thinking "Hitting Rocks For Science" might be although there was a scanning one on Nexus that I could only get after Kadara that gave me 50xp!
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It has to be Hitting Rocks, because competition requires you to scan designated quest nodes. You can't just hit up any old lithium deposit, oh no! You have scan this one specific lithium rock stuck away in the rear end end of nowhere. Not even DA:I pulled that poo poo. It was drowning in useless busywork quests, but when some random asked you for a bunch of elfroot you could go snag some off the nearest vendor and be done with it. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Apr 12, 2017 |
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Apr 12, 2017 00:17
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Why do people keep quoting that Rookersh post? Did I miss the post where we found out his uncle at worked at Gamepro magazine?
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Apr 12, 2017 00:19
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Ice Fist posted:Yep they became just another checkbox on every planet. Gotta find those monoliths, get the remnant symbols, maybe solve a space Sudoku puzzle, push some buttons, then make sure you run away from the death cloud. Repeat 5 times. The kicker is that i personally wouldn't have had an issue with this if the vaults werent just two rooms after the first one was so drat big.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:18
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They had this idea of continue with the Mass Effect universe, but create a new story. Is a good idea. They want to make money, fans want to play more games like the ME. Everyone wins. To continue with the Reapers thing is against this, is bad for everyone.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:19
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Nasgate posted:The kicker is that i personally wouldn't have had an issue with this if the vaults werent just two rooms after the first one was so drat big. Yeah, this was a bit disappointing. I was expecting each one to be something of a set piece dungeon, but after the first they're all pretty tiny. I do like the idea, though, that Ryder is the chosen one because for some reason she's the only person from the Milky Way who knows how to play Sudoku.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:22
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Personally I think they really dropped the ball with the Reapers. I thought it was going to turn out the Reapers were storing all galactic civilizations in Reaper form, complete with every living person at the time of the reaping stored digitally, that made up the personality of the reaper, until such time as the Reapers could figure out what to do about the Galactic Problem, whether it was dark energy or synthetics or whatever. This was strongly foreshadowed in the continuing internal life of the dead reaper and the "each of us is a nation" line and the gooping humans to make a reaper, but they just dropped it.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:24
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You ME3 ending is canon! Sadly, a year after that ending the synthesis process failed (or Reaper-Shepard crashed into a batarian moon) and everyone turned back to normal. The end.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:32
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Skippy McPants posted:It has to be Hitting Rocks, because competition requires you to scan designated quest nodes. You can't just hit up any old lithium deposit, oh no! You have scan this one specific lithium rock stuck away in the rear end end of nowhere. And some of them you can't see until you're right on top of them! I'm trying to do the sidequest on Eos "A Secret Project" but when I go to where the guide says an open door is, it isn't. There's four doors around the compound. One's on the roof and is open with a basically empty room. There's then three more. In the video I watched one of those was unlocked but I couldn't tell if she did something to get it open. Does anyone know?
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Apr 12, 2017 00:36
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Ice Fist posted:Yeah I noticed that too. Honestly when the time came to make a choice between Sloane or Reyes how could you possibly choose Sloane. Honestly I save scummed this because I was reflex hitting the timed prompts so I initially saved Sloane, but for fucks sake the deal you get with the outcasts is really lovely compared to Reyes. Reyes is better than Sloane in just about every conceivable way. If Sloane had reacted in any way at all to me saving her poo poo hole of a planet I might not have hated her guts so much. I chose Sloane and honestly I'm still not that sorry (sorry Trop).
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Apr 12, 2017 00:37
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ME:A seems to create a big problem w/r/t the Reapers being localized to the Milky Way, if they intervene to stop the spread of synthetic life every 50,000 years but it only takes a synthetic-life-having civilization 600 years to hop over to a neighboring galaxy. What if people get sick of Andromeda and come infect the Milky Way again with robots in another 600 years?
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gmq posted:You ME3 ending is canon! Sadly, a year after that ending the synthesis process failed (or Reaper-Shepard
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Apr 12, 2017 00:38
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The focus on being pioneers and explorers rings a little hollow when every last planet you land on is already inhabited by angara and/or exiles. Even the hosed up low gravity place has bad men on it when you arrive. All you end up doing is going into the Remnant vault, push a button to magically solve whatever environmental problem there is, and then make nice with the local warlord so that you can plop an outpost down.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:49
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Haledjian posted:What if people get sick of Andromeda and come infect the Milky Way again with robots in another 600 years? The Catalyst is a moron of an AI that probably never thought about that possiblity.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:52
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Dr. Abysmal posted:The focus on being pioneers and explorers rings a little hollow when every last planet you land on is already inhabited by angara and/or exiles. Even the hosed up low gravity place has bad men on it when you arrive. All you end up doing is going into the Remnant vault, push a button to magically solve whatever environmental problem there is, and then make nice with the local warlord so that you can plop an outpost down. It's actually a deep commentary on the delusions of explorers past, of the erasure of native populations and their own discovery of their continent. Actually it's just bad writing.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:54
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Haledjian posted:ME:A seems to create a big problem w/r/t the Reapers being localized to the Milky Way, if they intervene to stop the spread of synthetic life every 50,000 years but it only takes a synthetic-life-having civilization 600 years to hop over to a neighboring galaxy. For that matter, why isn't civilisation in Andromeda super advanced thanks to not being wiped out every 50,000 years? Ooooh oooh, how good would it be if you ran into a thriving Prothean colony world.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:55
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Coq au Nandos posted:Ooooh oooh, how good would it be if you ran into a thriving Prothean colony world. Judging by Javik? I wouldn't be surprised if the kett are Protheans.
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Coq au Nandos posted:For that matter, why isn't civilisation in Andromeda super advanced thanks to not being wiped out every 50,000 years? I said that earlier - although it does mean that everyone doesn't advance down the same line of civilization - since there's no mass drivers and no Citadel to centralise everyone. Surely there's some hyper-advanced people in Andromeda somewhere though. Man I wish this game was about that instead. The Protheans aren't dumb so they probably went to a milky way satellite galaxy instead of all the way to loving Andromeda. Taear fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Apr 12, 2017 |
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Apr 12, 2017 01:10
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I have to admit I cracked up at "It's an angaran holiday"
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Ryder owns On Voeld: "I know it's already pretty cold, but i need you guys to stay Extra frosty"
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Apr 12, 2017 01:16
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Nasgate posted:Ryder owns I died a bunch doing that quest due to enemies spawning on top of me and instakilling me so I heard her say that about 50 times.
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Taear posted:I said that earlier - although it does mean that everyone doesn't advance down the same line of civilization - since there's no mass drivers and no Citadel to centralise everyone. Space elves. Living in a forest world...using laser bows and arrows.
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Drifter posted:Space elves. Living in a forest world...using laser bows and arrows. Sign me up.
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DrNutt posted:It's worth noting that this is no longer true as of the release of Nexus Uprising. I read the first two OG Mass Effect books and NU blows them out of the water from even a semi-objective pure writing quality standpoint. And frankly if you skip it, you don't miss out on all that much, but the one thing it did radically change for me was my perspective of Sloane Kelly. She's one of the protagonists of Nexus Uprising and clearly meant to be a relatable character for the reader. I think that book is the only reason I sided with her in the game, because her character comes off completely different. The only other character similarly fleshed out is Addison, who I became far more sympathetic to after reading the book. Tann sucks no matter what and he should have let someone responsible for more than pushing numbers around lead the initiative instead of making massively terrible decisions and refusing to defer anything to people with actual leadership experience. I was going to mention that, yeah. But now it's like the opposite problem. The tie-in stuff is better than the game. Rookersh posted:Hey, you know how Jardaan tech requires the user to be mixed organic/synthetic? I hope this is true. It wouldn't be too surprising given that there's a shared green color scheme.
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I would love it if the next Bioware game you couldn't initiate any flirting or romance, but it was just something the npcs did to you. You'd be walking around and all of a sudden some rando would start talking to you and be al "Hey, sexy thang rawr" and you'd be all "excuse m- I'm sorry. What?" And they'd be all "Oh yeah, I like those pants. Keep that mouth open like that suck my alien rear end in a top hat. i'm a very important member of society but walk to the beat of my own drum." and you culdn't get away and then there's a sex scene that your character obviously enjoys because that's the point of these games and then afterwards the npc gives you some gold and you get some experience, and that's how you level up in the game. Just whoring it up except you have no agency. Subvert the system.
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Drifter posted:I would love it if the next Bioware game you couldn't initiate any flirting or romance, but it was just something the npcs did to you. This is probably the gameplay loop of every visual novel on steam.
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Milky Moor posted:I hope this is true. It wouldn't be too surprising given that there's a shared green color scheme. The rest of us don't. Mac Walters reputedly locked himself in a room to write it without input from that pesky writing team and it just doesn't work. Synths and organics don't get along... except we've known since ME2 the Geth don't want a war with the Quarian Flotilla and would really just like them to stop shooting on-sight for five minutes please. ME3? It's a major locked-in plot point of going through Geth records and finding they stopped themselves after chasing the Quarians off of Rannoch, because they started to realize it might be a bad ides to kill all of them. They'd been looking after their homeworld ever since, hoping the Quarians would come back without shooting at them. Nevermind EDI getting on fine with the crew. We have Geth and Quarians living peacefully side-by-side with real hope for it lasting, even fighting together in the Fleet at the end. But Mac Walters disagrees with this idea, and forced his lovely OG green tattoo concept in. Hope trillions of people enjoy being forcibly altered without their consent! Now lets go all weld armor plates to our head, because we need to make nice with the Krogan next, and according to Mac Walters thats how to make peace. Afterwards we'll paint ourselves blue to go improve Asari diplomatic relations.
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Personally I've never really been happy with the "but the galaxy doesn't consent" argument because every choice radically alters the lives of billions
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Apr 12, 2017 02:05
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They could always make all three endings canon: Shepard picks Control, then builds two more Crucibles and uses them to destroy all the Reapers and, after talking about it with everyone first, synthesizes.
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Fojar38 posted:Personally I've never really been happy with the "but the galaxy doesn't consent" argument because every choice radically alters the lives of billions That's so "but the truth is in the middle" retarded bullshit. One choice destroys the aggressors completely - and nothing much changes for anyone else except they stop getting murdered. You're argument is like "Oh, but I couldn't possibly give you an umbrella now since it's started raining already." Another choice stops the threat and places it in the control of one person. Again, basically people stop dying is the overall effect. The last choice mind rapes everyone and borg's them and forces them to take some type of pill where all thought is no longer private yadda yadda. God I literally know you're a useless troll but you still get me, man.
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Destroy also genocides an entire sapient species. Control really is the only ethical option.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Destroy also genocides an entire sapient species. Probably written out of spite at the Rannoch story arc.
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Haledjian posted:ME:A seems to create a big problem w/r/t the Reapers being localized to the Milky Way, if they intervene to stop the spread of synthetic life every 50,000 years but it only takes a synthetic-life-having civilization 600 years to hop over to a neighboring galaxy. Ye obvious answer is that Refuse is not canon, so the Reapers wouldn't bother hunting the Initiative.
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Coq au Nandos posted:I said this waaaaaay upthread but an interesting way to handle it would be to introduce some plot device that let the protagonist of a future Milky Way game travel between parallel universes - one for Destroy, one for Control, etc. you could even include cool poo poo, like one where Shepard refused, or one where Shepard actually did get indoctrinated. Bioshock Infinite your way between universes for the entire game, then plot happens and they all converge into a single universe again, and there's your soft reboot. Indoctrinated Shepard chooses Synthesis every time and in that universe everyone has been turned into Tron-colored semi-sentient floating and bipedal robots. They still gently caress.
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Dr. Abysmal posted:The focus on being pioneers and explorers rings a little hollow when every last planet you land on is already inhabited by angara and/or exiles. Even the hosed up low gravity place has bad men on it when you arrive. All you end up doing is going into the Remnant vault, push a button to magically solve whatever environmental problem there is, and then make nice with the local warlord so that you can plop an outpost down. yeah I thought that when they talked about exploration, I would be treading new ground and exploring unknown planets before anyone else. Instead you have the formulaic enemy base +/- Kett + Remnant holdouts + the vault. How trite and boring.
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Taear posted:What's everyone's vote for the worst "Task" in the game? I legit did this thinking there was going to be a huge payoff (like loads of fuckin minerals) and was mad as hell when it rewarded me with experience I didn't need and AVP that drove me further into the negatives.
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reagan posted:yeah I thought that when they talked about exploration, I would be treading new ground and exploring unknown planets before anyone else. Instead you have the formulaic enemy base +/- Kett + Remnant holdouts + the vault. How trite and boring. Well listen, if we didn't have conveniently humanoid aliens with plasma rifles for the player to shoot at every 3 minutes, then we'd have to invent something unique or original to do!
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exquisite tea posted:Well listen, if we didn't have conveniently humanoid aliens with plasma rifles for the player to shoot at every 3 minutes, then we'd have to invent something unique or original to do! It would have been great if the Kett had big-rear end flippers that made shooting their guns impossible for human-shaped Milky Way species (bonus points when it turns out only Hanar can use them) but instead we got something just one step in quality above "Geth have M-8 Avengers"
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Coq au Nandos posted:For that matter, why isn't civilisation in Andromeda super advanced thanks to not being wiped out every 50,000 years? I dunno, the remnant seem pretty advanced?
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Stranger Danger Ranger posted:I dunno, the remnant seem pretty advanced? All those Remnant ruins are 300-400 years old. It's extremely likely they're not from the Heleus cluster and are colonists like us. Colonists that need the exact same living conditions as us. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 🤔
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