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It wasn't a joke, I support trans people in sports 100% but men don't belong on women's teams.
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Well, they can just can hitch along with Nill next offseason or so. They could try to repair the D corps with a few signings, but the picking are slim outside of shatty and Alzner, and either one would be expensive and loooong. I'm sure Nill is still fine with the worst goaltending in the league, so nothing matters there loving whatever. Team should be healthy next year, so should be a playoff threat again. Another year to spin the wheels and waste more Seguin/Benn prime. Hooray!
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Apr 12, 2017 17:40
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inferis posted:It wasn't a joke, I support trans people in sports 100% but men don't belong on women's teams. The NWHL specifically has rules allowing transgender players. quote:Eligibility Guidelines
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Apr 12, 2017 17:41
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Yeah their transgender policy is terrible. With that logic there's no reason to ban men who simply have low testosterone either.
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Apr 12, 2017 17:44
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I don't think there are any women who could play in the NHL, and having them as a gimmick in the preseason seems like kind of a lovely thing to do to sell tickets. Just imagine the shitstorm if a team played a woman skater in a preseason game and some dude absolutely wrecked her with a check
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Apr 12, 2017 17:45
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Not only did they ditch their 2008 coach for a 1998 coach... https://twitter.com/JoshL1220/status/852198533864226817 Because this all worked out SO WELL before
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Apr 12, 2017 17:47
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I think people would be more outraged that someone threw a check in the preseason at all.
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Apr 12, 2017 17:48
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Pornographic Memory posted:Just imagine the shitstorm if a team played a woman skater in a preseason game and some dude absolutely wrecked her with a check the fights between social justice people who don't even like "sporps" and dudes who think "it's great that dumb broad got put in her place" would be both horrifying and extremely entertaining inferis posted:I think people would be more outraged that someone threw a check in the preseason at all. uhhh, have you ever watched a preseason game?
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Hitch should ask Nill to trade for Bouwmeester or Gunnarsson for defensive help imo
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I don't think there are any women who could play in the NHL, and having them as a gimmick in the preseason seems like kind of a lovely thing to do to sell tickets. My curiosity is more about what happens if they start taking hormone supplements (and it doesn't run afoul of league doping policy). If they bulk up, could a transgender professional hockey player physically compete in the NHL?
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Apr 12, 2017 17:56
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If you can play, you can play.
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Apr 12, 2017 17:57
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xzzy posted:My curiosity is more about what happens if they start taking hormone supplements (and it doesn't run afoul of league doping policy). If they bulk up, could a transgender professional hockey player physically compete in the NHL? I don't see why not, there have been plenty of under-sized players that have done well in the NHL.
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DOOMocrat posted:Not only did they ditch their 2008 coach for a 1998 coach... Hey, maybe just one more lost season and they can bring in some fresh blood. Or just double down and keep doing what's clearly not working!
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Pornographic Memory posted:Just imagine the shitstorm if a team played a woman skater in a preseason game and some dude absolutely wrecked her with a check Imagine the chirps if she wrecked some dude though.
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xzzy posted:My curiosity is more about what happens if they start taking hormone supplements (and it doesn't run afoul of league doping policy). If they bulk up, could a transgender professional hockey player physically compete in the NHL? DJExile posted:I don't see why not, there have been plenty of under-sized players that have done well in the NHL. Plenty of the women on the US/Canadian team are definitely already big enough to not even really be considered "under-sized" too. Hilary Knight, for example, is like 5'11 and probably around 170lbs. She's has the frame to play in the NHL she's just not fast enough to play with the men. I dunno if hormone supplements fix that. I think the harder thing to overcome would be a lifetime of playing no-contact hockey and then suddenly switching. That would affect almost every aspect of the way you play your game, I'd think.
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inferis posted:Yeah their transgender policy is terrible. With that logic there's no reason to ban men who simply have low testosterone either. It's not a testosterone policy, it doesn't have to cover every possible testosterone situation.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I think the harder thing to overcome would be a lifetime of playing no-contact hockey and then suddenly switching. That would affect almost every aspect of the way you play your game, I'd think. Yeah this is a fair point.
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Aphrodite posted:It's not a testosterone policy, it doesn't have to cover every possible testosterone situation. So what's the point of calling it the national women's hockey league unless the implication is that trans men aren't really men?
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Apr 12, 2017 18:12
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In soccer, the USA women's team will lose to U18 boys teams at training camp and the only sport I know of with a bigger gap from the top tier to everyone else is probably hockey. Testosterone & safety aren't the issues as much as performance. If the mold-breaker player comes along, let her in. If you can play etc etc. I just don't think it's likely, even at goaltender. I have no idea and am not qualified at all to speak to anything about transwomen playing in women's leagues.
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Apr 12, 2017 18:12
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inferis posted:So what's the point of calling it the national women's hockey league unless the implication is that trans men aren't really men? Who cares about a name? The World Series has 1 loving country in it. (I know Toronto has a team, but... let's be real.)
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Apr 12, 2017 18:14
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I said the name but what I was getting at is what's the point of having a league that's women (plus a few men i guess).
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Apr 12, 2017 18:17
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While we're on the subject of things that don't have a point
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inferis posted:I said the name but what I was getting at is what's the point of having a league that's women (plus a few men i guess). I think it's time you stopped talking about this, because you don't have a clue.
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Apr 12, 2017 18:29
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Is it really so controversial to say that trans men are men?
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Apr 12, 2017 18:33
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is it controversial of me to ask you if you're just a lovely poster or a born good poster who is transitioning
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inferis posted:Is it really so controversial to say that trans men are men? Thread title please.
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inferis posted:Is it really so controversial to say that trans men are men? To break up the dog pile, no, its not, and you're correct in this one thing.
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this thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY8z8B8gC40
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The East Coast Hockey League has teams in Idaho and Colorado. The American Hockey League has Canadian teams. Sometimes things like this happen.
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The canadian hockey league has teams in the us too just to complete the gallagher bit Why do you drive on a parkway and park on a driveway? inferis fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Apr 12, 2017 |
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I wonder if you post in a toiletDJExile posted:The East Coast Hockey League has teams in Idaho and Colorado. The American Hockey League has Canadian teams. Sometimes things like this happen. Sports Argument Stadium is not currently discussing sports nor is it an actual physical structure for holding events discuss Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Apr 12, 2017 |
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DJExile posted:The East Coast Hockey League has teams in Idaho and Colorado. The American Hockey League has Canadian teams. Sometimes things like this happen. but its not known as the East Coast Hockey League anymore you stupid bitch clown e: 
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In other news, Team Canada GM Ron Hextall has announced Dave Hakstol.... as assistant coach.
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Ron Hextall is a bad GM.
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I am in general an enthusiastic supporter of women's sports particularly soccer and hockey but the gap in ability between the best male and best female or even ftm hockey players is astronomically huge. I say this regularly but I feel like people just do not understand how good top level pro athletes are at sports.
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Aphrodite posted:Ron Hextall is a bad GM. BSH posted:Hakstol will serve under Tampa Bay Lightning head coach Jon Cooper, who will be the head coach of Team Canada. Joining Hakstol as assistants are former Florida Panthers coach Gerard Gallant and longtime coach Dave King. I feel like there are worse staffs to have. Then again, how good of coaching do you need when you're goddamn team canada?
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I know there's the basic muscle building ability of testosterone involved but I wonder how much closer it would be if there were as many women playing youth hockey as men.
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Oh that's right, they have to build from eliminated teams.
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Having watched a men's game and a women's game on consecutive days, the thing that most struck me was the speed. The women's game was slooooow and I'm not sure how you overcome that
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Yeah but there are so many men playing hockey since childhood that we are actually probably seeing the best players in the world whereas in women's sports how many young women stopped playing sports as a kid because they didn't see a future in it professionally.
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