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Raskolnikov38 posted:lol what do you think the map is going to look like after the 2020 census the current administration cant even organize an Easter egg hunt, I think the results of the 2020 census are going to be "insufficient data available"
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Here's my blistering take: The democrats will remain a mess as long as they keep being republicans that hate black and gay people less (no money in it). They have no real identity besides supposedly being in opposition to the other party, and it's just such an inherently lovely position to operate from. Dems know that if they ever have power again, they cannot actually do anything without breaking kayfabe. That's why they don't seem to ever want to win. It's why obama never seemed especially keen on getting anything done. It's why they spend so much time trying to convince their voters that the things they want are actually bad or impossible. This is the only way I can make sense of the democratic party.
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Vox Nihili posted:It's Kansas, airtime is cheap and $50k would have been a 20% increase in resources. you do know why the airtime is cheap right This is such a weird thing to obsess over when 99% of the left including the far left and all is taking this as a sign of the slipping hold on these historically blood red districts, and then here's like five very angry people who expect either a win or nothing.
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Zhulik posted:Here's my blistering take: the leadership of the opposition party entirely benefits on a personal financial level from the policies put forward by the party in power. its not even a little bit in their interest to win.
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Vox Nihili posted:Lol they got buried on spending. Do you think advertising doesn't work? DCCC seems to disagree on that in Georgia. The Georgia candidate is a party insider who supported Hillary. The Kansas guy was an outsider who got interested in politics when he supported Bernie last year. Huh.
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Zhulik posted:Here's my blistering take: Believing in nothing and only acting in opposition was wildly successful for the republicans.
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the Georgia candidate also has a good shot because the R's have been tearing themselves apart in that district and now there's even some dipshit libertarian who's gonna get involved last minute to really gently caress with their numbers while the Kansas guy was a moonshot in one of the reddest districts in the area
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one of those dastardly establishment-insider congressional aides
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Bip Roberts posted:Believing in nothing and only acting in opposition was wildly successful for the republicans. On the contrary, the republicans have extremely consistent and clear messaging of "gently caress you, more money for us". They also run on advocating for smaller government, while doing everything in their power to make the government operate poorly. It's an extremely potent feedback loop imo 
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Main Paineframe posted:wonder what happened from 96 to 98 that changed that district from "leans R" to "redder than the devil's rear end in a top hat". it doesn't seem like it was redistricting '98 was in the throes of the run-up to Clinton's impeachment, but Democrats actually won 5 seats that year, so if anything it went against the trend.
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Bip Roberts posted:Believing in nothing and only acting in opposition was wildly successful for the republicans. You were one of those people from 2000-2008 who's hot take was "Bush dumb" weren't you? ate shit on live tv has issued a correction as of 19:40 on Apr 12, 2017 |
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Vox Nihili posted:Seems their polling was fundamentally broken, doubt there was a 15 pt swing in opinion in two weeks. Dems, over-reliant on shoddy polling insteas of boots on the ground? Surely you jest! *loses Michigan*
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logikv9 posted:Hire me as a consultant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyV_UG60dD4
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sexpig by night posted:you do know why the airtime is cheap right Winning as many races as possible is literally the only thing that matters. It's not outrageous to attempt to compete in a red district where an enormously unpopular GOP governor and open seat make winning at least an outside possibility. I suspect the national GOP apparatus spent $200k to hold the district for a reason. But if we want to pretend that they're irrational sure, that's fine. Ha, we won by making them waste money!!! We got close without an investment of money, and investing money now does literally nothing! Please cut us more checks!!!!!
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Concerned Citizen posted:because money is actually valuable. </thread>
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ACTUALLY money is only valuable in this race, where we spent lots, and proven to have zero value in that race, where we didn't spend. That's just obvious, shame you haven't caught on.
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Giving me a loving dollar, DCCC
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ex post facho posted:Dems, over-reliant on shoddy polling insteas of boots on the ground? Speaking of losing Michigan, here's a funny behind the scenes look from when hilldog lost Michigan to Bernie(hwhw) http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/328405-clinton-campaign-plagued-by-bickering
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Somewhere, David Crosby shifts uncomfortably in his drug-induced coma
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Stairmaster posted:
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Terror Sweat posted:Speaking of losing Michigan, here's a funny behind the scenes look from when hilldog lost Michigan to Bernie(hwhw) lol hoply gently caress hillary is even more garbage than i could have ppssibly imagined quote:Hillary was so mad she couldn’t think straight. She was supposed to be focused on the prep session for that night’s Univision debate in Miami, but a potent mix of exhaustion and exasperation bubbled up inside.
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starting to come around to the idea that asixe from a supreme court nom (and even thatbisnt a sure thing with the clintons, lol) hillary may have been as bad as a trump presidency
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ex post facho posted:starting to come around to the idea that asixe from a supreme court nom (and even thatbisnt a sure thing with the clintons, lol) hillary may have been as bad as a trump presidency youd have to be pretty stupid to believe this tbh
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i meam, in terms of sheer hubristic overconfidence, terrible messaging, and inability to make the right decision, those are qualities about hillary's nanagerial style that hillary has tried to avoid throughout her career and she returns to again and again not exactly ideal for a CIC still better than orange cheeto sucklord, but only marginally edit: or taking responsibility for her failures, she loving sucks at that too
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ex post facho posted:starting to come around to the idea that asixe from a supreme court nom (and even thatbisnt a sure thing with the clintons, lol) hillary may have been as bad as a trump presidency Based on some story from her campaign that includes bullshit lines like "Hillary was so mad she couldn’t think straight"? Don't be an idiot.
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ex post facho posted:starting to come around to the idea that asixe from a supreme court nom (and even thatbisnt a sure thing with the clintons, lol) hillary may have been as bad as a trump presidency okay dude
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no, from repeated, public, and well documented statements and decisions by her on a range of issues throughout her political career, actually
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No, no it's cool, you can be an idiot in this thread.
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but we wont find out until she announces her candidacy in 2020, will we!!
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ex post facho postin from August 2016 somehow
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fuckin hillary, at least trump is in favor of single payer
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hillary would start a shooting war with russia over syria. im voting for the anti-interventionist candidate
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ill give you my time machine schematic if you can get the dccc to quit being fuckin idiots good luck
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ex post facho posted:ill give you my time machine schematic if you can get the dccc to quit being fuckin idiots whoa whoa whoa, brother, cmon now, time travel is all well and good but you know there are some things that are just impossible under our current understandings of physics
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like dems retaking the house under current leadership? :iamafag:
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Terror Sweat posted:Speaking of losing Michigan, here's a funny behind the scenes look from when hilldog lost Michigan to Bernie(hwhw) lol the books from inside the campaign will be amazing e: haha the clintons were yelling about not getting their message out in March and did nothing to redress this problem between then and November
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yes thank you for explaining the joke in the most Suck Thread manner possible
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congratulations, i played myself 
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ex post facho posted:starting to come around to the idea that asixe from a supreme court nom (and even thatbisnt a sure thing with the clintons, lol) hillary may have been as bad as a trump presidency somebody is giving zegerman a run for his money, it is like 1/3 or 1/2 true though lol
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Terror Sweat posted:Speaking of losing Michigan, here's a funny behind the scenes look from when hilldog lost Michigan to Bernie(hwhw) psyched for this book
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