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BrainParasite posted:Well poo poo. Is there a way to sue a kiwi for libel? There's some poo poo on our page that's not true and may harm future plans. They aren't actually saying anything negative on the wiki about our org, so no. Doxxing is annoying, but i don't use my real name on facebook, so there is that.
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Ottermotive Insanity posted:They aren't actually saying anything negative on the wiki about our org, so no. Doxxing is annoying, but i don't use my real name on facebook, so there is that. The bird dogging bit is negative and relies on a assumption that previous defunct chapter and current chapter are the same organization. Probably not worth pursuing, though.
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post about your local anti war actions here. looking like another busy weekend.
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Cleveland signed it's bylaws yesterday and Akron is working on getting theirs done as well  Edit: does anyone have some advice on slimming down meeting times? I was talking with leadership after the meeting and that was something they all seemed interested in reducing a lot of the drag. I suggested that we have a members-only meeting after our general meeting so we can eliminate bureaucratic stuff and make our gen meetings more of a conversation, but I was curious if you guys have encountered any problems like this Business Gorillas has issued a correction as of 14:17 on Apr 7, 2017 |
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Business Gorillas posted:Cleveland signed it's bylaws yesterday and Akron is working on getting theirs done as well Set up a separate monthly or weekly informal discussion group. Let's people vent about the world, consolidate their ideas, and cuts down on that during a meeting where business might need to be done.
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Business Gorillas posted:Cleveland signed it's bylaws yesterday and Akron is working on getting theirs done as well work groups should meet outside of the general meeting and do their thing and just report back and make short announcements. we usually like to do a brief intro, a speaker, then announcements for groups and actions and stuff for people to go to. we have a hard cutoff time where people should feel free to leave. then folks mill around for a little bit and a few go eat
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Aside from that League of Women Voters' talk at last weekend's Detroit DSA meeting, that group was really good about time- all the bureaucratic work had been sorted out ahead of time, so during the general meeting the reports boiled down to "We received x in donations, we spent y in expenses, our account as it currently stands is therefore z." There was also a vote on donating a hundred dollars to Freedom House, and then that was it, financial business was done for the meeting.
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Another 3 hour meeting for the Philly DSA! I guess it's good they didn't skip two months in a row though
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my friend ran for treasurer in Baltimore DSA and she says things are going pretty well, even though there is personal drama there
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on hold with sex line posted:Another 3 hour meeting for the Philly DSA! I guess it's good they didn't skip two months in a row though If you want someone to do something, make it easy. Three hour meetings aren't really easy.
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If your DSA meetings are going too long or are bad be prepared to bring it up and articulate what you'd like to see change, I doubt many DSA organizers hold contempt for their membership, at least not on a level compared to the Dems.
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If you're using roberts rules of order, tips to staying on schedule:
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Ruzihm posted:If you're using roberts rules of order, tips to staying on schedule: That sounds good but I probably wouldn't implement it for meetings with <20 people
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Ace of Baes posted:That sounds good but I probably wouldn't implement it for meetings with <20 people For a meeting of 20 ppl, it's just a formalization of the following 3 things: if 14 ppl want a debate to end, it should end. if 11 ppl want the discussion to continue outside of the meeting, it should be settled outside of the meeting if 7 ppl want to get back on schedule, it should get back on schedule. These seem like pretty fair expectations to offer to your comrades if your hour long meeting is turning into three.
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Ruzihm posted:For a meeting of 20 ppl, it's just a formalization of the following 3 things: Yeah if you're having issues with meetings running on too long def. I'm just saying I wouldn't necessarily implement formal rules that New comers might be put off by if you're still in or just exiting the OC stage
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I also believe simple majority is a lot better than trying to do stuff by consensus but each chapter should decide that stuff democratically
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Ruzihm posted:For a meeting of 20 ppl, it's just a formalization of the following 3 things: I think he's more saying that if you have a small meeting then being The Parliamentary Rules Guy might not be the best option if you can move the discussion along more naturally and informally
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:I think he's more saying that if you have a small meeting then being The Parliamentary Rules Guy might not be the best option if you can move the discussion along more naturally and informally true true. I definitely agree that you should not shout POINT OF ORDER at your drive thru person.
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Went to a small anti war protest, ended up meeting my states chairs of NAACP and invited them to an ABCs of Socialism reading, having lunch with one of them this week to talk about how the DSA and NAACP can work together in our state. I encourage you guys to attend small local events and promote your chapters too, you never know who you might run into.
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gently caress Robert's Rules. It's a 700 page 140 year old book that stunts what should be a normal conversation between humans. It's only the most obnoxious people who have it memorized to try to turn what should be an inclusive meeting into a chess match of parliamentary procedure. Get yourself a clear agenda and a facilitator to keep things moving.
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My local branch has meetings less than a half mile from my apartment but it's during work for me. 
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Stan Taylor posted:My local branch has meetings less than a half mile from my apartment but it's during work for me. strike
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Stan Taylor posted:My local branch has meetings less than a half mile from my apartment but it's during work for me. get all your coworkers interested, walk out en masse
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Stan Taylor posted:My local branch has meetings less than a half mile from my apartment but it's during work for me. Ours doesn't keep the same day for the monthly meetings, so that some months people with different schedules can attend; though it does leave out people who are able to make it to others. We believe political activity shouldn't be for only those with 9-5, M-F employment. Ask if they'd consider having monthly meetings on different days every month because of this.
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Ottermotive Insanity posted:Ours doesn't keep the same day for the monthly meetings, so that some months people with different schedules can attend; though it does leave out people who are able to make it to others. We believe political activity shouldn't be for only those with 9-5, M-F employment. Ask if they'd consider having monthly meetings on different days every month because of this. Ya it's good to switch up days, it's also good to have meetings on weekends or in the evening.
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Ottermotive Insanity posted:Ours doesn't keep the same day for the monthly meetings, so that some months people with different schedules can attend; though it does leave out people who are able to make it to others. We believe political activity shouldn't be for only those with 9-5, M-F employment. Ask if they'd consider having monthly meetings on different days every month because of this. I saw they had a booth at a weekly market thing I may hit em up there or on fbook about it or joining locally instead of nationally or whatever.
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Bok Bok posted:gently caress Robert's Rules. It's a 700 page 140 year old book that stunts what should be a normal conversation between humans. It's only the most obnoxious people who have it memorized to try to turn what should be an inclusive meeting into a chess match of parliamentary procedure. Get yourself a clear agenda and a facilitator to keep things moving. Counterpoint: Some sort of actual rule to reference is the only thing that will get some particularly stupid folks off their irrelevant tangents so its nice to have some sort of emergency fallback rule set, and its also nice when its hard to abuse.
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Not sure how many of you heard about what happened in Jacksonville this past Friday. There was an anti-war protest in a local park, Hemming Park, and a Trump supporter and known instigator (Gary Snow, aka William Garrett Nix) disrupted it causing police to violently start arresting five peaceful protesters. This group is being referred to as the Hemming Park Five. Nix was posted about earlier in this thread after he successfully disrupted a meeting of Progressive Democrats in Jacksonville and this latest stunt even got him on the nightly news.. A single Trump supporter was arrested (unfortunately not William Garrett Nix), making for a total of six people arrested. As it turns out, the Trump supporter is also a sex offender who committed his crimes against children. A semi-anonymous facebook account is not trying to claim that the sex offender was one of ours. Is there any kind of resource on handling saboteurs either in person or online? I'm familiar with things like "Angel Wings" but want to build up as many tactics as possible. A member of our local DSA is also a bar certified lawyer and he suggests forming solid lines of bodies and if someone pushes through, scream assault. My idea is to buy a ton of toy baby bottles and when he shows up, have a designated group cluster around him with them offering "does baby want a bottle?" My primary plan right now is to preach situational discipline and to never escalate confrontations, but as evidenced by my only idea above that's not where my instincts are. Nix seems to be very aware of where the legal lines are and will push things right to that point so the first step is not letting them bait you, but we need a steps to take after that. Preferably ones that keep us on the right side of the police.
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Use of force to intimidate Trumpenproles is effective, as they cowards. You need not even obscure your identity, they will flee at even cursory attempts at confrontation. That's what we do at our events.
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Ace of Baes posted:I encourage you guys to attend small local events and promote your chapters too, you never know who you might run into. Where is a good place to find out about smaller events? I follow a bunch of groups on social media but I don't hear about these smaller marches. I'm in Denver and would have been down for an anti-war gathering.
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There's a member of my chapter who is super connected to everything and he owns so much. He sends out lists of stuff to do. I guess you have to become that guy?
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Jack Del Huevos posted:Where is a good place to find out about smaller events? I follow a bunch of groups on social media but I don't hear about these smaller marches. I'm in Denver and would have been down for an anti-war gathering. Denver DSA, Denver Green Party (chair of Denver Green party is DSA), NAACP, Justice of the Peace, DFA, and any lib groups, honestly lib events are the best b.c. you're more likely to run into people who aren't "left" yet and are succeptible to joining DSA
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Brooklyn DSA and a few other organizations are going to be marching on a city councilwoman's office tomorrow to rally against a deal that proposes a bunch of luxury condos, mostly unaffordable housing, and a fee-per-month rec center on the site of city-owned property. Laurie Cumbo is against it as it stands, but she's less "kill the deal" and more "renegotiate the deal." DSA, the Crown Heights Tenants Union, New York Communities for Change, and other organizations are for putting the property into a community land trust. We'll be meeting at Fort Greene Park on the corner of Myrtle Ave. and St. Edwards Street and start the march at 4:30pm. Come along and bring an umbrella and/or a poncho, as it will be raining.
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Jack Del Huevos posted:Where is a good place to find out about smaller events? I follow a bunch of groups on social media but I don't hear about these smaller marches. I'm in Denver and would have been down for an anti-war gathering. There's a Denver DSA social gathering at Hooked on Colfax at 7pm on Saturday, April 22nd. If you're looking to get involved locally that's a good place to start. There will be a Boulder/Denver DSA presence at the Tax March this Saturday (4/15). The next "big" thing is going to be May Day Against Trumpism on Monday, 5/1, which will be during the day as a "strike" in for International Workers' Day. Denver DSA is still working on sorting out our whole calendar thing. Right now your best bet is the Facebook Page. [Edit: And actually, for the Tax March here is the Denver DSA ActionNetwork page - https://actionnetwork.org/events/dsa-outreach-march-for-trumps-tax-returns ] Internet Explorer has issued a correction as of 20:11 on Apr 11, 2017 |
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whomever just posted this - show yourself you coward https://twitter.com/arrghshell/status/851933689680408576
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Mythical Moderate posted:whomever just posted this - show yourself you coward @arrghshell doxxing all of us
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Mythical Moderate posted:whomever just posted this - show yourself you coward the reports of the death of this forum have been greatly exaggerated. we've made it back to the big time
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I think it's time we officially created the Awful Caucus
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Mythical Moderate posted:whomever just posted this - show yourself you coward https://twitter.com/DSA_WesternCT/status/851991053188169729 Which one of us from CT tweeted this in reply? Because I love you.
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Mythical Moderate posted:whomever just posted this - show yourself you coward  Let's do to American politics what we did to Eve Online.
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