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Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



jack reacheround

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Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


HAT FETISH posted:

Jack Reacher gets off a Greyhound bus

iirc this was the first reacher book and the 'twist' about the counterfeiting was telegraphed a loving mile away so i was glad to see that the films maintained the consistency of reacher being basically an idiot who is good at 1)running 2)fighting 3) calling up people he used to work with

the author openly admits he intended to write airport thrillers and made a fortune so fair enough

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice
it's short, not overly detailed, hits all the high points of the plot. seems outrageously good as wikipedia plot summaries go

Meat Beat Agent
Aug 5, 2007

felonious assault with a sproinging boner
https://twitter.com/jjvincent/status/852197032722878464

https://twitter.com/garblefart/status/852247613768380418

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



A Pinball Wizard posted:

it's short, not overly detailed, hits all the high points of the plot. seems outrageously good as wikipedia plot summaries go
I just liked the weird punctuation and run-on sentences

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
how are people in advertising so stupendously revolting

it's like the industry goes out of its way to make contempt its foundation

Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Apr 13, 2017

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



HAT FETISH posted:

I just liked the weird punctuation and run-on sentences

its charming in a 4th grade essay kind of way

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Sham bam bamina! posted:

how are people in advertising so stupendously revolting

it's like the industry goes out of its way to make contempt its foundation

don't tell pagancow or smythe

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Sagebrush posted:

don't tell pagancow or smythe

isn't pagancow a software developer @ videolan

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

cinci zoo sniper posted:

isn't pagancow a software developer @ videolan

no but you should definitely say so to check if he still has mod powers

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Sham bam bamina! posted:

how are people in advertising so stupendously revolting

it's like the industry goes out of its way to make contempt its foundation

i'm not sure why, but i think this is okay. i am more annoyed by people with voice-controlled systems than i am by advertisers :shrug:

Meat Beat Agent
Aug 5, 2007

felonious assault with a sproinging boner
update:

https://twitter.com/adland/status/852438900018728960

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
yall get that the point of this sort of thing is to cause a bunch of free media coverage, rather than to reach the like 5 people with a google home device or phone with google assistant that's set to always activated

Meat Beat Agent
Aug 5, 2007

felonious assault with a sproinging boner
i'm the marketing director at burger king, of course i know that

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

this owns so hard

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



ads are bad hth

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc
doing wacky things does not immediately become uninteresting because it's advertising something

i want people to do more wacky things, I don't care if it's to get me to buy a burger, I already like burgers

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Powaqoatse posted:

ads are bad hth

badvertising

aardvaard
Mar 4, 2013

you belong in the bog of eternal stench

theflyingorc posted:

doing wacky things does not immediately become uninteresting because it's advertising something

i want people to do more wacky things, I don't care if it's to get me to buy a burger, I already like burgers

Wrong

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Beast of Bourbon
Sep 25, 2013

Pillbug
i'm the resident marketing guy, spending them 7 figgies at facebook and twitter and whatever.

this was successful in the fact that it made a lot of buzz about it and got you talking about BK. maybe not the whopper so much, but no one is going to play the ad and then hear "omg the whopper has BUTT JUICE IN IT????" and believe it.

Suspicious
Apr 30, 2005
You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.
bk has already reached awareness saturation decades ago. everyone in america knows about it and eats there already or doesn't because they don't like it. what are more ads going to do other than waste everyone's time?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

justify the continued dumping of money into the advertising hole.

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003

Suspicious posted:

bk has already reached awareness saturation decades ago. everyone in america knows about it and eats there already or doesn't because they don't like it. what are more ads going to do other than waste everyone's time?

you have no idea the poo poo that goes on in advertising

my brother and a few of his friends used to be in that industry have all sorts of stories about it and I keep telling them to write a silicon valley type show about it

like, literally silicon valley but in advertising.

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

Just-In-Timeberlake posted:

you have no idea the poo poo that goes on in advertising

my brother and a few of his friends used to be in that industry have all sorts of stories about it and I keep telling them to write a silicon valley type show about it

like, literally silicon valley but in advertising.

set it in the 60s and you've got a sale

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Suspicious posted:

bk has already reached awareness saturation decades ago. everyone in america knows about it and eats there already or doesn't because they don't like it. what are more ads going to do other than waste everyone's time?

they're just fighting over the people who are too lazy to have any higher level thinking, like somebody on a stoner level of consciousness who lives by thirty identical fast food chains and is going to go to one of them because they do every night and more often than not picks the last one they heard said aloud. just like how macrobrew commercials seemingly don't appeal to a lot of people because it turns out they're laser-targeted to the alcoholics who represent 80%+ of their revenue as they're crushing multiple 30-racks a week. and then advertisers can turn around and point to half-percent increases in gross if they materialize or fall back on cherry-picked metrics or paid focus groups or a hundred other excuses if they don't and everybody walks away thinking they've made good investments as long as you don't royally gently caress up (which, worst case scenario, the ad firm shuffles around a bit or reincorporates under a different name and the client shaves off a couple hundred jobs to keep their quarterlies looking good). capitalism keeps on chugging and these fake dollars continue to fund the golden age of television

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003

PCjr sidecar posted:

set it in the 60s and you've got a sale

mad men isn't even close to as mental as the stories I've heard.

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

Suspicious posted:

bk has already reached awareness saturation decades ago. everyone in america knows about it and eats there already or doesn't because they don't like it. what are more ads going to do other than waste everyone's time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie

ads still matter regardless of awareness saturation

aardvaard
Mar 4, 2013

you belong in the bog of eternal stench

Just-In-Timeberlake posted:

mad men isn't even close to as mental as the stories I've heard.

do tell

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Why is this an article?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_Stevens%27_comments_about_Salman_Rushdie

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang




well in 89, salman rushdie & the fatwa and all that was huge, and cat stevens/yusuf islam is a famous guy and spoke out a lot obviously

actually i have no why its an article and not maybe segments on their respective biographies

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



I guess Sherurcij created it in 2007 because they had an essay to write

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cat_Stevens%27_comments_about_Salman_Rushdie&oldid=142795871

*checking userpage*

"A while ago I was in a discussion with one of "those" people who rants about the United States being some fascist Nazi power...when I asked, he was unable to define what Fascism even meant...and with my curiosity piqued, I was left to wonder how many Nazis he could've been able to name if I'd asked.

I made a point of asking several people who I considered a little more intelligent how many Nazis they could name, given that it was the most notorious group of people in the past hundred years. They all got Hitler, a couple got Himmler or Goebbels, and a single person got Hess - nobody got more than four.

When asked to name some of the 9/11 hijackers, a few people were able to name Mohamed Atta...but nobody could name a single other one."

ahhh hummm well i suppose there's your motivation for why its an article

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



wow this fuckin guy

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Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
i'm the purple link

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

The Max Rebo Band is a fictional alien pop music band that appeared in the 1983 film Return of the Jedi as in-house performers for crime lord Jabba the Hutt. The original lineup consisted of the blue-skinned Ortolan keyboardist Max Rebo, a plump Kitonak woodwind player named Droopy McCool, and the spindly-legged Pa'lowick lead singer Sy Snootles. Their role in the Star Wars canon is elaborated upon in several Star Wars expanded universe short stories and comics.
The group are classified as Jizz-wailers, which, according to the Star Wars Encyclopedia, refers to a "musician who plays a fast, contemporary, and upbeat style of music."[1]
Max and Droopy were portrayed by actors in bodysuits, while Sy was operated by two puppeteers who were stationed above and beneath the set. For the 1997 Special Edition re-release of Return of the Jedi, the band gained nine new members while Sy Snootles was computer-generated.
Contents [hide]
1 Appearances
1.1 Film
1.2 Literature
1.3 Comics
1.4 Other
2 Concept and creation
3 Band members
3.1 Original members
3.1.1 Max Rebo
3.1.2 Sy Snootles
3.1.3 Droopy McCool
3.2 Special Edition members
3.2.1 Ak-rev
3.2.2 Doda Bodonawieedo
3.2.3 Barquin D'an
3.2.4 Greeata Jendowanian
3.2.5 Lyn Me
3.2.6 Rappertunie
3.2.7 Rystáll Sant
3.2.8 Umpass-stay
3.2.9 Joh Yowza
3.3 Expanded Universe members
3.3.1 Evar Orbus
3.3.2 Tik Tali Talosh
4 References
5 Further reading
6 External links
Appearances[edit]
Film[edit]
The Max Rebo Band made their Star Wars canon debut in Return of the Jedi during the scenes set in Jabba's palace on Tatooine. In the original version, the trio performs a Huttese-language pop song titled "Lapti Nek" ("Work It Out"); the lyrics are about dancing.[2] The track was replaced in the Special Edition with "Jedi Rocks," described by the Star Wars Databank as a "less-dated piece of music."[3] Written by jazz musician Jerry Hey, the original track is only one minute long but was padded with an instrumental that was also heard in the film, which stretched the total length to two minutes and 49 seconds.
In both versions, the song was performed shortly after C-3PO and R2-D2 were given to Jabba. The group thereafter played festive instrumental tunes, during which Max was the only band member who appeared onscreen. The fate of the trio was unclear following the explosion of Jabba's sail barge after the unsuccessful execution attempt of Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, and Chewbacca.
Literature[edit]
The original members of the Max Rebo Band make several appearances in Star Wars Expanded Universe literature. Max, Droopy, and Sy are featured in John Gregory Betancourt's short story And the Band Played On: The Band's Tale, from the 1995 anthology Tales from Jabba's Palace. According to the story, the band begins as a quartet called "Evar Orbus and His Galactic Jizz-wailers." They arrive on Tatooine in 3 ABY ("After the Battle of Yavin"), one year before the events of Return of the Jedi, for a gig at the Mos Eisley Cantina, but regular in-house band, The Modal Nodes, objects to the presence of a second group, and Orbus is killed by Nodes leader Figrin D'an following a scuffle aboard an airbus.
Droopy and Sy elect Max as their new bandleader, and the trio secures an audition with Jabba the Hutt, who is pleased with their performance of "Lapti Nek." He offers the band a lifetime contract paid in food instead of money, much to Max's delight and Sy's disdain. However, the execution of Han, Luke, and Chewbacca at the Great Pit of Carkoon descends into chaos as Jabba is fatally strangled by Princess Leia, and the band escapes from Jabba's barge sans instruments just before it explodes. Droopy quits the group on the spot after wandering off into the desert to join fellow Kitonaks he hears playing in the distance, and Sy and Max join forces as the Max Rebo Duo. The book's epilogue describes the pair splitting up; Sy flops as a solo act while Max joins up with the Rebellion and uses his musical talents to entertain the troops.[4]
Comics[edit]
In the 2000 Dark Horse release A Hot Time in the Cold Town Tonite!, Jabba sends the puzzled trio to the frozen planet Hoth to play for a rival crime lord, Bingo Mehndra, who threatens to feed the band to his pet Wampa if he suspected any kind of trickery. The group soon discovers that Jabba is actually using them as pawns in an assassination attempt against Bingo after they discover explosives hidden inside their speakers. They make their getaway by superimposing holograms of themselves from a past performance onto the stage, which Bingo realizes just as the explosives detonate. Though Jabba had blatantly endangered their lives, the band nonetheless chooses to avoid his wrath by returning to Tatooine.[5]
In Dave Cooper's Stop That Jawa! (part of Star Wars Tales 2 published by Dark Horse Comics in 2000), the trio has their instruments "salvaged" by Jawa scavengers outside the Mos Eisley Cantina. They are then pursued by a droid bounty hunter who earlier overheard Sy badmouthing Jabba in the cantina. The bounty hunter is revealed at the conclusion to be a Derfian musician named Tik Tali Talosh, who pressures the Jawas into returning the instruments before proclaiming his adoration of the group and requesting an audition.[6]
Other[edit]
The original band has made minor appearances in other Star Wars media. The unfinished 1982 David Tomblin mockumentary Return of the Ewok showed them in Jabba's palace, and they briefly appeared in an October 1985 episode of the animated series Star Wars: Droids titled "The Lost Prince," in which they performed in Doodnik's Café on the mining planet of Tyne's Horky.[7] The trio also featured in the video games Star Wars: Demolition (2000) and Star Wars: Battlefront II (2005).
In May 2003, nearly six years after the rerelease of Return of the Jedi, Star Wars Insider published brief biographies of the band's new members for an article called "Jabbapalooza: Who's Who in the Max Rebo Band."[2]
Concept and creation[edit]
Star Wars creator George Lucas stated that the scene featuring the band was intended to be an elaborate production, but the crew "never really had the time" to film it. Lucas commented, "I thought [it] would be funny [to have a musical number] in the middle of a Star Wars film."[8]
The original band members—Max, Sy, and Droopy—were puppets designed by Phil Tippett of Industrial Light and Magic's Creature Shop. Lucas was not entirely pleased with the scene, claiming the puppets were too static and motionless, but his options were limited.[8] Special edition producer Rick McCallum concurred that the requirements of the scene were too complex, even for animatronics.[9]
For the 1997 rerelease of Return of the Jedi, Sy Snootles was recreated entirely in CGI and nine new musicians and dancers were added, while Max and Droopy's screen time during the segment was reduced in comparison to the original film. Visual effects supervisor Dave Carson described the process of creating Sy and new character Joh Yowza as similar to sculpting clay models, adding that CGI characters were more like puppets than cartoons and that animators "constantly find limitations: [the] characters don't bend right, or their mass isn't right," problems he claimed that confronted puppeteers.[10]
In addition to the new characters, "Lapti Nek" was replaced with "Jedi Rocks."[3][11] Lucas insisted that the revised sequence added more atmosphere and quality to the film.[8]
Band members[edit]
Original members[edit]
Max Rebo[edit]
Max Rebo is the stage name of Siiruulian Phantele, a stocky Ortolan keyboardist and eponymous leader of the Max Rebo Band. He plays a Red Ball Jett keyboard, which is similar to a circular reed organ with clavinet characteristics. Max was a founding member of Evar Orbus and His Galactic Jizz-wailers, but after Orbus's death, he is elected the group's new leader.
Like other Ortolans, Max is a glutton; he ecstatically accepts a lifetime contract from Jabba that is paid in endless meals instead of money, which angers the rest of the group. With their contract terminated following Jabba's demise, Max and Sy team up as the Max Rebo Duo in the wake of Droopy's departure. After performing for Lady Valarian, the pair splits. Max joins the Rebel Alliance to entertain the troops, one reason being that "the Rebellion has the best food."[12] After the Galactic Civil War, he quits the music business and opens a chain of successful restaurants throughout the galaxy. He retires to a life of wealth and luxury on Coruscant.[13]
In a nod to his physical appearance, Max's real name, Siiruulian Phantele, is a play on the words "cerulean elephant." He was portrayed by Simon Williamson in both versions of Return of the Jedi, and the character was a puppet constructed from the waist up by ILM.[14]
Sy Snootles[edit]
Sy Snootles is a robust female Pa'lowick who is the lead vocalist and original member of the band. She had an affair with her Yuzzum groupie, Clayton. She is angered at Max's acceptance of Jabba's contract, and after attempts to rework the deal prove futile, Sy resorts to secretly spying for over a dozen of Jabba's enemies to earn credits, but then works as a double agent by giving them false information provided by Bib Fortuna. She was also not above getting her hands dirty when she killed Ziro the Hutt to obtain for Jabba a book containing dirt on the other Hutt leaders.
She teams up with Max as the Max Rebo Duo following Jabba's death and Droopy's departure from the band. Following a brief gig for Lady Valarian, Sy dissolves her relationship with Max and begins her solo career, but her subsequent recordings sell poorly and she is relegated to touring Outer Rim dives under different stage names.[12][15]
During production, Sy Snootles' nickname was "Ms. Snooty."[15] In the original version of the film, the character was a marionette-like puppet operated by puppeteers Mike Quinn and Tim Rose; Quinn was stationed on scaffolding and controlled her upper body, while Rose moved her legs from beneath the set. The character's oversized ruby lips were suggested by George Lucas, who referred to them as "Mick Jagger lips."
Sy was voiced in the original version of Jedi by Lucasfilm sound engineer Annie Arbogast, who also wrote the Huttese-language lyrics to "Lapti Nek." The track was recorded at Lucasfilm's Sprocket Systems (currently Skywalker Sound),[16] and was even the recipient of a 1983 Apex Award.[17] For close-up shots, Sy's mouth was articulated using a nearly-invisible wire connected to a microphone stand.[15][18] The puppet was replaced with a computer-generated image for the Special Edition rerelease.[19] The CGI was spliced in with shots of the original puppet and created a continuity error with the puppet Sy's headdress feather appearing and disappearing during the film's first act.
In the Star Wars: The Clone Wars series, she is voiced by Nika Futterman.
Droopy McCool[edit]
Droopy McCool is the stage name of a slow-minded Kitonak musician and original member of the Max Rebo Band. He plays a chidinkalu horn, an instrument that resembles a clarinet. Droopy's actual birth name is a series of unpronounceable flute-like whistles, but he was renamed Snit by Orbus, who purchased him as a slave and forced him to join his band due to Snit's musical talents.[20] Following Orbus's death, he is freed and given his familiar stage name by bandmate Sy Snootles. After the band flees Jabba's barge following his death, Droopy quits the group and wanders off alone into the desert to search for other members of his race.[4] He is never seen again, but rumors among Tatooine's moisture farmers claim that the sound of Kitonak pipes have been heard from the far reaches of the desert.[2][12]
Droopy was played by Deep Roy in a full bodysuit for both versions of Return of the Jedi.
Special Edition members[edit]
The following characters were added to the 1997 Special Edition version of the film.
Ak-rev[edit]
Ak-rev is a leathery-faced Weequay skiff guard and drummer from the planet Sriluur. He had played the sacred drums in a monastery devoted to the Weequay god of thunder before moving to Tatooine to serve as one of Jabba's skiff guards, simply in order to mingle with other members of his race. He becomes a part-time drummer for the Max Rebo Band, and after Jabba's death, Ak-rev and fellow percussionist Umpass-stay attempt to flee to Mos Eisley, but the pair is ambushed by Tusken Raiders and Ak-rev is beaten to death.[21]
According to the Star Wars Databank, his musical style is derived from the Japanese art of Taiko.[21] His Special Edition actor was uncredited.[22]
Doda Bodonawieedo[edit]
Doda Bodonawieedo is a green-skinned Rodian musician who plays a slitherhorn, a fictional wind instrument similar to a heckelphone. Orphaned at a young age after his family was killed by bounty hunters, Doda held an affinity for classical Rodian music and crime. His connections with the Tatooine underworld led him to Jabba the Hutt and the Max Rebo Band. Doda remains at Jabba's Palace during the execution at the Sarlacc; when he hears of Jabba's death, he steals several valuable statues from the palace and disappears.[23]
Nelson Hall played Doda in the Special Edition, but was not included in the credits.[22]
Barquin D'an[edit]
Barquin D'an is a Bith musician from the planet Clak'dor VII who plays a Kloo horn, a fictitious wind instrument that resembles a bassoon. He is the estranged older brother of Figrin D'an, and resents the success of his brother's band, the Modal Nodes. He travels to Tatooine to join the Nodes, who are nowhere to be found after his arrival. Barquin stays to perform with local musicians and eventually joins the Max Rebo Band; unaccustomed to the depravity he witnesses in Jabba's Palace, he flees after Oola's gruesome death.[24] After Jabba's demise, he quits music altogether and starts an import/export business.[2]
Barquin was portrayed by Don Bies in an uncredited role.[22]
Greeata Jendowanian[edit]
Greeata Jendowanian is a female Rodian singer and backup vocalist for the Max Rebo Band. She gets her start playing the Kloo horn on a luxury starship called the Kuari Princess, where she befriends Sy Snootles.[2] They become a duo and eventually join up with Max Rebo. After Jabba the Hutt's death and the band's escape into the desert, Greeata and fellow singer Lyn Me come to the band's rescue by driving off a group of Tusken Raiders and stealing their Banthas, which they ride to Mos Eisley.[25]
Greeata was played by Smuin Ballet creative director Celia Fushille in a Rodian bodysuit and mask for the Special Edition.[22][26]
Lyn Me[edit]
Lyn Me is a blue-skinned [27] female Twi'lek dancer and backup vocalist in the Max Rebo Band. She becomes infatuated with Boba Fett and follows him to Tatooine, where she joins the band at Jabba's palace. She meets her hero but is later enraged at his death during the skirmish at the Sarlacc pit. Lyn and Greeata head out into the desert on a stolen landspeeder and rescue Max, Droopy, and Sy from Tusken Raiders before making off with their Banthas. She initially vows to take revenge on Han, Luke and Leia for their part in Fett's death,[28] but then drops her vendetta .[2]
Lyn Me was portrayed by ballet dancer Dalyn Chew.[22][29]
Rappertunie[edit]
Rappertunie is the stage name of Rapotwanalantonee Tivtotolon, a frog-like, potbellied Shawda Ubb musician who plays a harmonica-like instrument called a growdi, which is described in the Star Wars Databank as a cross between a water organ and a flute.[30] He comes from the swamp planet of Manpha, and joins the band on Tatooine, but he confines himself to Jabba's palace due to the unpleasant desert environment, even though his small size places him in constant danger of being eaten.[30] Rappertunie leaves Tatooine to continue his career after Jabba's death, but his knowledge of computer technology leads him to employment as an engineer for a manufacturer of MSE-6 droids.[2]
Rappertunie was an 0.3 meter (0.98 foot)-tall puppet digitally composited into new and existing footage of the film, and was nicknamed "Jedi Rapper" by the filmmakers during production.[30]
Rystáll Sant[edit]
Rystáll Sant is a colorful female "near-human" singer and dancer from Coruscant. Her mother was human, and her father a Theelin, but Rystáll is orphaned as a small child without ever knowing them and she is taken in by Ortolan musicians. She and her adoptive family are enslaved by a lieutenant in the Black Sun criminal organization, before Lando Calrissian wins them from the criminal in a sabacc game and frees them from slavery. After relocating to Tatooine, she joins the Max Rebo Band as a backup vocalist and dancer. Boba Fett is briefly seen flirting with her prior to the arrival of Boushh.[31]
Rystáll was portrayed by Canadian dancer Mercedes Ngoh in full-body makeup, which took four hours to apply for her lone day of shooting.[22][32]
Umpass-stay[edit]
Umpass-stay is a Klatooinian drummer with a canine-like snout and hooded eyes. He works as a spy and a guard for Jabba while performing as a drummer with the Max Rebo Band, and stays behind at Jabba's palace during the failed execution of Luke, Han and Chewbacca. After he is free following Jabba's death, Umpass-stay elects to become a servant for another Hutt household.[33]
Like Ak-rev, Umpass-stay's drumming was inspired by Taiko.[33] His Special Edition actor was uncredited.[22]
Joh Yowza[edit]
Joh Yowza is the stage name of J'ywz'gnk Kchhllbrxcstk Et'nrmdndlcvtbrx, a short, furry Endorian creature known as a Yuzzum, as well as a lead singer in the Max Rebo Band. After he unknowingly stows away on a star freighter while searching for food, the captain keeps him aboard for cooking, cleaning, and other menial tasks. In return, Yowza is well-fed and taught Galactic Basic.[14][34]
While watching Evar Orbus and His Galactic Jizz-wailers perform at a cafe, he sings along. Impressed with his voice, Orbus signs Yowza, who performs for food and shelter, while Sy gives him his new stage name. After Orbus's death, Yowza joins the band on Tatooine after a successful audition for Jabba. The group disbands after Jabba's death and Yowza travels to Mos Eisley, where he finds a job on a small passenger liner and performs with its house band in exchange for free food and transportation throughout the Outer Rim.[34]
Joh Yowza appeared as a computer-generated image, but his voice actor was uncredited.[22] The Yuzzums were originally slated to appear as a second race on Endor in the original version of the film, but were axed due to high production costs. Only one Yuzzum puppet was constructed, and included in the background of Jabba's palace.[34]
Expanded Universe members[edit]
Evar Orbus[edit]
Evar Orbus is an eight-tentacled, beak-mouthed Letaki singer and musician who made his first canon appearance in "And the Band Played On." He was the eponymous founder of Evar Orbus and His Galactic Jizz-wailers, in addition to purchasing Kitonak musician Snit (later Droopy McCool) as a slave and adding him to the lineup. The quartet agrees to play a gig at the Mos Eisley Cantina, which leads to a conflict with incumbent group The Modal Nodes. After Orbus is killed by Figrin D'an, the band is then renamed after new leader Max Rebo.[2][4]
Tik Tali Talosh[edit]
Brennan Tik Tali Talosh is a Derfian from the planet Derf and president of the Max Rebo Band Fan Club. The character first appeared at the end of Stop that Jawa! from Star Wars Tales 2.[6] He realizes his dream of playing with the group when he is invited to perform with them at Jabba's palace shortly before the Battle of Endor. After they split up, Talosh writes a tell-all book entitled Blue Man's Group (a pun on the performance trio Blue Man Group) without the band's permission, causing them to sever ties with him. He nonetheless treasures his brief stint with the band.[2]

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

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so disney could recreate it brick by brick and get nerds to buy it all over again, and then blow it up 20 years from now, rinse and repeat?

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The Max Rebo Band is a fictional alien pop music band that appeared in the 1983 film Return of the Jedi as in-house performers for crime lord Jabba the Hutt. The original lineup consisted of the blue-skinned Ortolan keyboardist Max Rebo, a plump Kitonak woodwind player named Droopy McCool, and the spindly-legged Pa'lowick lead singer Sy Snootles. Their role in the Star Wars canon is elaborated upon in several Star Wars expanded universe short stories and comics.
The group are classified as Jizz-wailers, which, according to the Star Wars Encyclopedia, refers to a "musician who plays a fast, contemporary, and upbeat style of music."[1]
Max and Droopy were portrayed by actors in bodysuits, while Sy was operated by two puppeteers who were stationed above and beneath the set. For the 1997 Special Edition re-release of Return of the Jedi, the band gained nine new members while Sy Snootles was computer-generated.
Contents [hide]
1 Appearances
1.1 Film
1.2 Literature
1.3 Comics
1.4 Other
2 Concept and creation
3 Band members
3.1 Original members
3.1.1 Max Rebo
3.1.2 Sy Snootles
3.1.3 Droopy McCool
3.2 Special Edition members
3.2.1 Ak-rev
3.2.2 Doda Bodonawieedo
3.2.3 Barquin D'an
3.2.4 Greeata Jendowanian
3.2.5 Lyn Me
3.2.6 Rappertunie
3.2.7 Rystáll Sant
3.2.8 Umpass-stay
3.2.9 Joh Yowza
3.3 Expanded Universe members
3.3.1 Evar Orbus
3.3.2 Tik Tali Talosh
4 References
5 Further reading
6 External links
Appearances[edit]
Film[edit]
The Max Rebo Band made their Star Wars canon debut in Return of the Jedi during the scenes set in Jabba's palace on Tatooine. In the original version, the trio performs a Huttese-language pop song titled "Lapti Nek" ("Work It Out"); the lyrics are about dancing.[2] The track was replaced in the Special Edition with "Jedi Rocks," described by the Star Wars Databank as a "less-dated piece of music."[3] Written by jazz musician Jerry Hey, the original track is only one minute long but was padded with an instrumental that was also heard in the film, which stretched the total length to two minutes and 49 seconds.
In both versions, the song was performed shortly after C-3PO and R2-D2 were given to Jabba. The group thereafter played festive instrumental tunes, during which Max was the only band member who appeared onscreen. The fate of the trio was unclear following the explosion of Jabba's sail barge after the unsuccessful execution attempt of Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, and Chewbacca.
Literature[edit]
The original members of the Max Rebo Band make several appearances in Star Wars Expanded Universe literature. Max, Droopy, and Sy are featured in John Gregory Betancourt's short story And the Band Played On: The Band's Tale, from the 1995 anthology Tales from Jabba's Palace. According to the story, the band begins as a quartet called "Evar Orbus and His Galactic Jizz-wailers." They arrive on Tatooine in 3 ABY ("After the Battle of Yavin"), one year before the events of Return of the Jedi, for a gig at the Mos Eisley Cantina, but regular in-house band, The Modal Nodes, objects to the presence of a second group, and Orbus is killed by Nodes leader Figrin D'an following a scuffle aboard an airbus.
Droopy and Sy elect Max as their new bandleader, and the trio secures an audition with Jabba the Hutt, who is pleased with their performance of "Lapti Nek." He offers the band a lifetime contract paid in food instead of money, much to Max's delight and Sy's disdain. However, the execution of Han, Luke, and Chewbacca at the Great Pit of Carkoon descends into chaos as Jabba is fatally strangled by Princess Leia, and the band escapes from Jabba's barge sans instruments just before it explodes. Droopy quits the group on the spot after wandering off into the desert to join fellow Kitonaks he hears playing in the distance, and Sy and Max join forces as the Max Rebo Duo. The book's epilogue describes the pair splitting up; Sy flops as a solo act while Max joins up with the Rebellion and uses his musical talents to entertain the troops.[4]
Comics[edit]
In the 2000 Dark Horse release A Hot Time in the Cold Town Tonite!, Jabba sends the puzzled trio to the frozen planet Hoth to play for a rival crime lord, Bingo Mehndra, who threatens to feed the band to his pet Wampa if he suspected any kind of trickery. The group soon discovers that Jabba is actually using them as pawns in an assassination attempt against Bingo after they discover explosives hidden inside their speakers. They make their getaway by superimposing holograms of themselves from a past performance onto the stage, which Bingo realizes just as the explosives detonate. Though Jabba had blatantly endangered their lives, the band nonetheless chooses to avoid his wrath by returning to Tatooine.[5]
In Dave Cooper's Stop That Jawa! (part of Star Wars Tales 2 published by Dark Horse Comics in 2000), the trio has their instruments "salvaged" by Jawa scavengers outside the Mos Eisley Cantina. They are then pursued by a droid bounty hunter who earlier overheard Sy badmouthing Jabba in the cantina. The bounty hunter is revealed at the conclusion to be a Derfian musician named Tik Tali Talosh, who pressures the Jawas into returning the instruments before proclaiming his adoration of the group and requesting an audition.[6]
Other[edit]
The original band has made minor appearances in other Star Wars media. The unfinished 1982 David Tomblin mockumentary Return of the Ewok showed them in Jabba's palace, and they briefly appeared in an October 1985 episode of the animated series Star Wars: Droids titled "The Lost Prince," in which they performed in Doodnik's Café on the mining planet of Tyne's Horky.[7] The trio also featured in the video games Star Wars: Demolition (2000) and Star Wars: Battlefront II (2005).
In May 2003, nearly six years after the rerelease of Return of the Jedi, Star Wars Insider published brief biographies of the band's new members for an article called "Jabbapalooza: Who's Who in the Max Rebo Band."[2]
Concept and creation[edit]
Star Wars creator George Lucas stated that the scene featuring the band was intended to be an elaborate production, but the crew "never really had the time" to film it. Lucas commented, "I thought [it] would be funny [to have a musical number] in the middle of a Star Wars film."[8]
The original band members—Max, Sy, and Droopy—were puppets designed by Phil Tippett of Industrial Light and Magic's Creature Shop. Lucas was not entirely pleased with the scene, claiming the puppets were too static and motionless, but his options were limited.[8] Special edition producer Rick McCallum concurred that the requirements of the scene were too complex, even for animatronics.[9]
For the 1997 rerelease of Return of the Jedi, Sy Snootles was recreated entirely in CGI and nine new musicians and dancers were added, while Max and Droopy's screen time during the segment was reduced in comparison to the original film. Visual effects supervisor Dave Carson described the process of creating Sy and new character Joh Yowza as similar to sculpting clay models, adding that CGI characters were more like puppets than cartoons and that animators "constantly find limitations: [the] characters don't bend right, or their mass isn't right," problems he claimed that confronted puppeteers.[10]
In addition to the new characters, "Lapti Nek" was replaced with "Jedi Rocks."[3][11] Lucas insisted that the revised sequence added more atmosphere and quality to the film.[8]
Band members[edit]
Original members[edit]
Max Rebo[edit]
Max Rebo is the stage name of Siiruulian Phantele, a stocky Ortolan keyboardist and eponymous leader of the Max Rebo Band. He plays a Red Ball Jett keyboard, which is similar to a circular reed organ with clavinet characteristics. Max was a founding member of Evar Orbus and His Galactic Jizz-wailers, but after Orbus's death, he is elected the group's new leader.
Like other Ortolans, Max is a glutton; he ecstatically accepts a lifetime contract from Jabba that is paid in endless meals instead of money, which angers the rest of the group. With their contract terminated following Jabba's demise, Max and Sy team up as the Max Rebo Duo in the wake of Droopy's departure. After performing for Lady Valarian, the pair splits. Max joins the Rebel Alliance to entertain the troops, one reason being that "the Rebellion has the best food."[12] After the Galactic Civil War, he quits the music business and opens a chain of successful restaurants throughout the galaxy. He retires to a life of wealth and luxury on Coruscant.[13]
In a nod to his physical appearance, Max's real name, Siiruulian Phantele, is a play on the words "cerulean elephant." He was portrayed by Simon Williamson in both versions of Return of the Jedi, and the character was a puppet constructed from the waist up by ILM.[14]
Sy Snootles[edit]
Sy Snootles is a robust female Pa'lowick who is the lead vocalist and original member of the band. She had an affair with her Yuzzum groupie, Clayton. She is angered at Max's acceptance of Jabba's contract, and after attempts to rework the deal prove futile, Sy resorts to secretly spying for over a dozen of Jabba's enemies to earn credits, but then works as a double agent by giving them false information provided by Bib Fortuna. She was also not above getting her hands dirty when she killed Ziro the Hutt to obtain for Jabba a book containing dirt on the other Hutt leaders.
She teams up with Max as the Max Rebo Duo following Jabba's death and Droopy's departure from the band. Following a brief gig for Lady Valarian, Sy dissolves her relationship with Max and begins her solo career, but her subsequent recordings sell poorly and she is relegated to touring Outer Rim dives under different stage names.[12][15]
During production, Sy Snootles' nickname was "Ms. Snooty."[15] In the original version of the film, the character was a marionette-like puppet operated by puppeteers Mike Quinn and Tim Rose; Quinn was stationed on scaffolding and controlled her upper body, while Rose moved her legs from beneath the set. The character's oversized ruby lips were suggested by George Lucas, who referred to them as "Mick Jagger lips."
Sy was voiced in the original version of Jedi by Lucasfilm sound engineer Annie Arbogast, who also wrote the Huttese-language lyrics to "Lapti Nek." The track was recorded at Lucasfilm's Sprocket Systems (currently Skywalker Sound),[16] and was even the recipient of a 1983 Apex Award.[17] For close-up shots, Sy's mouth was articulated using a nearly-invisible wire connected to a microphone stand.[15][18] The puppet was replaced with a computer-generated image for the Special Edition rerelease.[19] The CGI was spliced in with shots of the original puppet and created a continuity error with the puppet Sy's headdress feather appearing and disappearing during the film's first act.
In the Star Wars: The Clone Wars series, she is voiced by Nika Futterman.
Droopy McCool[edit]
Droopy McCool is the stage name of a slow-minded Kitonak musician and original member of the Max Rebo Band. He plays a chidinkalu horn, an instrument that resembles a clarinet. Droopy's actual birth name is a series of unpronounceable flute-like whistles, but he was renamed Snit by Orbus, who purchased him as a slave and forced him to join his band due to Snit's musical talents.[20] Following Orbus's death, he is freed and given his familiar stage name by bandmate Sy Snootles. After the band flees Jabba's barge following his death, Droopy quits the group and wanders off alone into the desert to search for other members of his race.[4] He is never seen again, but rumors among Tatooine's moisture farmers claim that the sound of Kitonak pipes have been heard from the far reaches of the desert.[2][12]
Droopy was played by Deep Roy in a full bodysuit for both versions of Return of the Jedi.
Special Edition members[edit]
The following characters were added to the 1997 Special Edition version of the film.
Ak-rev[edit]
Ak-rev is a leathery-faced Weequay skiff guard and drummer from the planet Sriluur. He had played the sacred drums in a monastery devoted to the Weequay god of thunder before moving to Tatooine to serve as one of Jabba's skiff guards, simply in order to mingle with other members of his race. He becomes a part-time drummer for the Max Rebo Band, and after Jabba's death, Ak-rev and fellow percussionist Umpass-stay attempt to flee to Mos Eisley, but the pair is ambushed by Tusken Raiders and Ak-rev is beaten to death.[21]
According to the Star Wars Databank, his musical style is derived from the Japanese art of Taiko.[21] His Special Edition actor was uncredited.[22]
Doda Bodonawieedo[edit]
Doda Bodonawieedo is a green-skinned Rodian musician who plays a slitherhorn, a fictional wind instrument similar to a heckelphone. Orphaned at a young age after his family was killed by bounty hunters, Doda held an affinity for classical Rodian music and crime. His connections with the Tatooine underworld led him to Jabba the Hutt and the Max Rebo Band. Doda remains at Jabba's Palace during the execution at the Sarlacc; when he hears of Jabba's death, he steals several valuable statues from the palace and disappears.[23]
Nelson Hall played Doda in the Special Edition, but was not included in the credits.[22]
Barquin D'an[edit]
Barquin D'an is a Bith musician from the planet Clak'dor VII who plays a Kloo horn, a fictitious wind instrument that resembles a bassoon. He is the estranged older brother of Figrin D'an, and resents the success of his brother's band, the Modal Nodes. He travels to Tatooine to join the Nodes, who are nowhere to be found after his arrival. Barquin stays to perform with local musicians and eventually joins the Max Rebo Band; unaccustomed to the depravity he witnesses in Jabba's Palace, he flees after Oola's gruesome death.[24] After Jabba's demise, he quits music altogether and starts an import/export business.[2]
Barquin was portrayed by Don Bies in an uncredited role.[22]
Greeata Jendowanian[edit]
Greeata Jendowanian is a female Rodian singer and backup vocalist for the Max Rebo Band. She gets her start playing the Kloo horn on a luxury starship called the Kuari Princess, where she befriends Sy Snootles.[2] They become a duo and eventually join up with Max Rebo. After Jabba the Hutt's death and the band's escape into the desert, Greeata and fellow singer Lyn Me come to the band's rescue by driving off a group of Tusken Raiders and stealing their Banthas, which they ride to Mos Eisley.[25]
Greeata was played by Smuin Ballet creative director Celia Fushille in a Rodian bodysuit and mask for the Special Edition.[22][26]
Lyn Me[edit]
Lyn Me is a blue-skinned [27] female Twi'lek dancer and backup vocalist in the Max Rebo Band. She becomes infatuated with Boba Fett and follows him to Tatooine, where she joins the band at Jabba's palace. She meets her hero but is later enraged at his death during the skirmish at the Sarlacc pit. Lyn and Greeata head out into the desert on a stolen landspeeder and rescue Max, Droopy, and Sy from Tusken Raiders before making off with their Banthas. She initially vows to take revenge on Han, Luke and Leia for their part in Fett's death,[28] but then drops her vendetta .[2]
Lyn Me was portrayed by ballet dancer Dalyn Chew.[22][29]
Rappertunie[edit]
Rappertunie is the stage name of Rapotwanalantonee Tivtotolon, a frog-like, potbellied Shawda Ubb musician who plays a harmonica-like instrument called a growdi, which is described in the Star Wars Databank as a cross between a water organ and a flute.[30] He comes from the swamp planet of Manpha, and joins the band on Tatooine, but he confines himself to Jabba's palace due to the unpleasant desert environment, even though his small size places him in constant danger of being eaten.[30] Rappertunie leaves Tatooine to continue his career after Jabba's death, but his knowledge of computer technology leads him to employment as an engineer for a manufacturer of MSE-6 droids.[2]
Rappertunie was an 0.3 meter (0.98 foot)-tall puppet digitally composited into new and existing footage of the film, and was nicknamed "Jedi Rapper" by the filmmakers during production.[30]
Rystáll Sant[edit]
Rystáll Sant is a colorful female "near-human" singer and dancer from Coruscant. Her mother was human, and her father a Theelin, but Rystáll is orphaned as a small child without ever knowing them and she is taken in by Ortolan musicians. She and her adoptive family are enslaved by a lieutenant in the Black Sun criminal organization, before Lando Calrissian wins them from the criminal in a sabacc game and frees them from slavery. After relocating to Tatooine, she joins the Max Rebo Band as a backup vocalist and dancer. Boba Fett is briefly seen flirting with her prior to the arrival of Boushh.[31]
Rystáll was portrayed by Canadian dancer Mercedes Ngoh in full-body makeup, which took four hours to apply for her lone day of shooting.[22][32]
Umpass-stay[edit]
Umpass-stay is a Klatooinian drummer with a canine-like snout and hooded eyes. He works as a spy and a guard for Jabba while performing as a drummer with the Max Rebo Band, and stays behind at Jabba's palace during the failed execution of Luke, Han and Chewbacca. After he is free following Jabba's death, Umpass-stay elects to become a servant for another Hutt household.[33]
Like Ak-rev, Umpass-stay's drumming was inspired by Taiko.[33] His Special Edition actor was uncredited.[22]
Joh Yowza[edit]
Joh Yowza is the stage name of J'ywz'gnk Kchhllbrxcstk Et'nrmdndlcvtbrx, a short, furry Endorian creature known as a Yuzzum, as well as a lead singer in the Max Rebo Band. After he unknowingly stows away on a star freighter while searching for food, the captain keeps him aboard for cooking, cleaning, and other menial tasks. In return, Yowza is well-fed and taught Galactic Basic.[14][34]
While watching Evar Orbus and His Galactic Jizz-wailers perform at a cafe, he sings along. Impressed with his voice, Orbus signs Yowza, who performs for food and shelter, while Sy gives him his new stage name. After Orbus's death, Yowza joins the band on Tatooine after a successful audition for Jabba. The group disbands after Jabba's death and Yowza travels to Mos Eisley, where he finds a job on a small passenger liner and performs with its house band in exchange for free food and transportation throughout the Outer Rim.[34]
Joh Yowza appeared as a computer-generated image, but his voice actor was uncredited.[22] The Yuzzums were originally slated to appear as a second race on Endor in the original version of the film, but were axed due to high production costs. Only one Yuzzum puppet was constructed, and included in the background of Jabba's palace.[34]
Expanded Universe members[edit]
Evar Orbus[edit]
Evar Orbus is an eight-tentacled, beak-mouthed Letaki singer and musician who made his first canon appearance in "And the Band Played On." He was the eponymous founder of Evar Orbus and His Galactic Jizz-wailers, in addition to purchasing Kitonak musician Snit (later Droopy McCool) as a slave and adding him to the lineup. The quartet agrees to play a gig at the Mos Eisley Cantina, which leads to a conflict with incumbent group The Modal Nodes. After Orbus is killed by Figrin D'an, the band is then renamed after new leader Max Rebo.[2][4]
Tik Tali Talosh[edit]
Brennan Tik Tali Talosh is a Derfian from the planet Derf and president of the Max Rebo Band Fan Club. The character first appeared at the end of Stop that Jawa! from Star Wars Tales 2.[6] He realizes his dream of playing with the group when he is invited to perform with them at Jabba's palace shortly before the Battle of Endor. After they split up, Talosh writes a tell-all book entitled Blue Man's Group (a pun on the performance trio Blue Man Group) without the band's permission, causing them to sever ties with him. He nonetheless treasures his brief stint with the band.[2]

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