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Look, just because a vtwin supermoto is Space Whale's "flavor of the weak" it does not mean we need to ignore the valid persuit of a vtwin supermoto. That said, I feel like the power output charactoristics of a thumper are far better suited to supermoto activities.
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Coydog posted:Look, just because a vtwin supermoto is Space Whale's "flavor of the weak" it does not mean we need to ignore the valid persuit of a vtwin supermoto. isn't oil starvation a thing to worry about with a vtwin vehicle designed to wheelie and poo poo
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Coydog posted:990SMR As a 990SMT owner, it's not quite the same and I still want a "real" supermoto. Partially to sate my more belligerent riding habits, and partially to keep myself from loving up the SMT.
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https://twitter.com/lowtax/status/852227033065299979
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Oh my god. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAPLqHorShc Sounds good, too!
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Apr 12, 2017 20:44
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Buncha scrubs in here never heard of moto morini.
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Coydog posted:scrabbler Is that a code:
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I wasn't interested in getting one, I was wondering how many existed  Had a convo at work about why most dirt bikes are singles and found an article saying that singles and v-twin dirt bikes were a thing, but only if they fired close together, supposedly. It went into racers finding out in the 80s that if you had all the cylinders fire close together you could get on the throttle quicker because you're just free-spinning most of the time and it was easier to modulate. Then I realized I could only think of that Aprilia. Also no I'm getting a DRZ, wtf. I did take my ninja up and down a graded dirt road today though. It was shockingly easy just really uncomfortable.
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Who needs pesky cylinders? Electric is the waaaave of the future!
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I need to photoshop a brazzers logo as brappers. https://imgur.com/a/lJbmO That's why.
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Space Whale posted:Are there v twin sumos besides that insane Aprilia? http://1290smr.com Slavvy posted:Actually they're godawful. Ride an S1000XR.
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I took 101 South home today. Came across a bike crash. Some poor bastard wrecked a Striple. There were 5 or 6 people gathered around the rider who was leaned against the concrete dividers. Two nurses were there too. A bunch of loving monsters they were. The whole gaggle swarming the rider. "Oh... are you hurt" "don't move, hun" "police are on their way. You're going to be just fine."  not one of them bothered checking on that poor bike. I picked it up for him and the poor thing didn't look too damaged. Hopefully someone can ride it soon.  bless it's three-chambered soul.
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Between a few bikes that I've borrowed to learn off friends and my current bike, I've never ridden a bike that wasn't a thumper. (I am the newbie - I have only ever ridden a GN250, Yamaha Scorpio, TT 250 and a CRF 250). Apart from just being not terrible and trying to find chances to ride multi cylinder bikes, how would riding a V twin or P Twin be like compared to riding a thumper?
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Z3n posted:http://1290smr.com Probably a great bike, definitely would be better with separate brakes. Trambopaline posted:Between a few bikes that I've borrowed to learn off friends and my current bike, I've never ridden a bike that wasn't a thumper. (I am the newbie - I have only ever ridden a GN250, Yamaha Scorpio, TT 250 and a CRF 250). Apart from just being not terrible and trying to find chances to ride multi cylinder bikes, how would riding a V twin or P Twin be like compared to riding a thumper? A p-twin feels revvier and smoother but mostly similar. A v-twin feels monumental and a lot more characterful. But I'm generalising grossly and tbh at the 250 level the engine configuration is largely irrelevant unless you have an I4. There's little difference between a ninja 250 and a VTR 250, for example; even though the engines feel different for whirly engineeringy balancy reasons, they're both ultimately made to make as much power as possible with two cylinders and 250cc so the torque curves are pretty much the same.
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Weird history question: 40s or 50s time frame, there was a guy trying to set a motorcycle speed record and I've seen photos of him in white leathers and wearing what can only be described as 'an aerodynamic butt cone'. The bike may have been a Zundapp, but various gis searches (in safe mode, not gonna lie) have come up empty. Has anybody here have even a faint clue as to who/what I might talking about?
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Ernst Henne? googling for that image also turned up this guy, which may be what you're looking for 
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video of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14dCNL1pzCA&t=55s
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Slavvy posted:Probably a great bike, definitely would be better with separate brakes. The system is so good that you can't really tell it's there, the bike just applies rear brake the way they recommend it when you apply front brake - makes it insanely stable.
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Sagebrush posted:Ernst Henne? Henne! Yes! Danke!
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"he had another problem to face as well: his egg vibrated frantically" :bigtran:
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Space Whale posted:I need to photoshop a brazzers logo as brappers. Would buy this sticker and have you never ship it.
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My VFR has linked brakes and for street riding they are A OK.
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I have a feeling linked brakes are one of those things that are objectively better for 99% of riding situations, but people dislike them because "it feels different".
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Can you still trail brake with linked brakes? There are times where it's objectively better to be able to apply braking force to just one end of the bike
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Guess it depends on the implementation, but as I understand it most linked brake systems only engage the opposite brake over a certain threshold of brake pressure.
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I like using the brake pedal to make my back end start to slide. 
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Can you still trail brake with linked brakes? There are times where it's objectively better to be able to apply braking force to just one end of the bike With the linked systems that only apply one piston from the front when you apply the back, and the systems with lean sensitive ABS, yes - the other ones it is more complex but most folks don't trailbrake so hard they're pushing the front or rear to the limit of traction so it's not really a problem.
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I was thinking more "dirt, but with street tires" wheee you already don't have a ton of traction in the front and you need to brake while leaned over, it's usually best to use the rear as the front is so close to washing out. Niche use case, sure
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Regarding the Daytona 650 posted on the previous page, last weekend I got to ride a first-gen Daytona, the one with the stupid name that suggests it's a 600 while it's closer than a liter bike. I haven't ridden modern Daytonas but man that engine sure is different from the milquetoast whiny jet engine that powers the Tiger (I had only ridden Tigers and the Rocket). Actually sounds like a motorcycle, erratic idle, spits out the exhaust; a Triumph with character sure was surprising to me. Also, it gets really hot.
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I've owned a couple of vfrs and ridden blackbirds a couple of time for decent distances. I've never been a rider to really push it but I never even noticed the linked brakes during regular riding. If you really stomp on the rear you can make the front dive a bit, but I've always been a front brake only person unless at low speeds. I would think that the honda system helped more people than it hurt. If you're riding hard enough on the street that the performance is a problem you should be at the track with a different bike.
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n8r posted:I've owned a couple of vfrs and ridden blackbirds a couple of time for decent distances. I've never been a rider to really push it but I never even noticed the linked brakes during regular riding. If you really stomp on the rear you can make the front dive a bit, but I've always been a front brake only person unless at low speeds. Linked brakes are actually good and awesome for stop and go commuting. I don't prefer them for canyon carving though. I think next time I go to bleed my brakes on the VFR I'll probably just de-link them instead.
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UK goons, as is traditional now, Abba are doing free P&P on all their stuff over the bank holiday weekend. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you're using anything other than an Abba stand to do work on your bike you are objectively Wrong and Dumb and probably smell like boiled cabbage. This goes double if your bike can't accept one of these stands and triple if you have a centre stand. Yes, they are more pricey than a (cheap) paddock stand but they're about twenty million times easier to use and way, way more useful and versatile (and also pack away into a much smaller space than a paddock stand). They've also added an amazingly useful little thing to their range: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h62D5ab6cMk which I've just ordered to save me even the minimal effort of lifting the bike when I'm just washing the wheels and lubing the chain. Feels a little pricey for what it is but I've already spent more money than that on games on Steam this weekend so...
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I sold my bike, but a local karting place does this a few times a month. I think they might rent me a bike, should I do it? Yes or definitely yes https://youtu.be/kFl2FUt2xxY
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PaintVagrant posted:I sold my bike, but a local karting place does this a few times a month. I think they might rent me a bike, should I do it? Yes, but on a minimoto so you can get your knee down.
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PaintVagrant posted:I sold my bike, but a local karting place does this a few times a month. I think they might rent me a bike, should I do it? Holy poo poo I would love to race Groms on this thing.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:They've also added an amazingly useful little thing to their range:
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Don't worry, Harbor Freight has you covered! http://www.harborfreight.com/motorcycle-wheel-cleaning-stand-98800.html 
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