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Strawberry Panda posted:So you believe the Heat should have been a 50+ win team? Of course not. Like everybody else I thought they'd win in the mid 30s. But to give credit for exceeding that in the second half of the season without taking into account that he couldn't win any games in the first half seems needlessly reductive.
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Apr 13, 2017 22:31
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James Harden's bum rear end wasn't even good enough to make an All-NBA team last year and this year he may be the MVP. D'Antoni is a miracle worker
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Apr 13, 2017 22:33
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19144679/2016-17-postseason-award-expert-picks has a bunch of ESPN pundit's picks, looks like Russ will win MVP
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Apr 13, 2017 22:34
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It's interesting how much better the Hawks are when dumpster tier players Dennis Schroeder and Dwight Howard don't play. They should continue this strategy in the playoffs.
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Apr 13, 2017 22:35
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ragle posted:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19144679/2016-17-postseason-award-expert-picks has a bunch of ESPN pundit's picks, looks like Russ will win MVP Just lol if draymond gets dpoty
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Apr 13, 2017 22:36
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NickRoweFillea posted:Westbrook Not Healthy
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Apr 13, 2017 22:38
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Just lol if draymond gets dpoty Eh. I can see a reasonable defense for Dray, though I would go bear.
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Apr 13, 2017 22:40
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Shear Modulus posted:even though kawhi should win the mvp this year i wouldn't call him a hall of famer yet WHY WOULD HE NOT GET INTO THE HALL HE HAS A FINALS MVP!!! haha he's only like 25 years old it's crazy how winning constantly is somehow not flashy Fast Luck posted:What if when Pop retires the Spurs keep rolling along and it turns out Pop is a system coach I believe the NBA thread would do the right thing and choose not to disrespect the caterpillar by only raving about the butterfly and honor Pop for establishing such a viable system.
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Apr 13, 2017 22:42
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I don't know why everyone wants to give Spo coty for coaching a playoff caliber team to a 9-30 start. That seems like the opposite thing the coty should be doing. Aldridge played like a good defender and third option for a lot of his time on the Spurs. Pop doesn't deserve coach of the year though, he's going to do that thing where he trusts Tony Parker despite him losing the game and it's going to cost the spurs. My worry is that it will cost them in the first round too.
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Apr 13, 2017 22:41
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Before the preseason I told a pal on twitter the five best players in the NBA this year were 1. LEB 2. RON 3. JAM 4. ES! 5. Revenge Westbrook LeBron is about to do his Playoffs LeBron thing and prove all that but I also think the Westbrook thing turned out true and he gets my MVP vote, which is a thing that does not exist.
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Apr 13, 2017 22:45
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Spent like ten seconds trying to figure out who RON was.AggressivelyStupid posted:Just lol if draymond gets dpoty He's first or second in pretty much any defensive stat, so why would it be weird? Lots of people giving it to Kawhi when he went through long stretches of not defending real well. I'd vote Gobert though.
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Apr 13, 2017 22:46
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AggressivelyStupid posted:So justise Winslow is a giant bust, yeah? He's still only 21 and has some NBA skills so I think it's a bit premature. He's a bust though if he can't fix that broken rear end jumpshot. Definitely not starter quality material right now.
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Apr 13, 2017 22:50
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Bashez posted:I don't know why everyone wants to give Spo coty for coaching a playoff caliber team to a 9-30 start. That seems like the opposite thing the coty should be doing. dokmo posted:Don't know why he should get credit for the second half but a pass on the first half. Also to the first thing, Bashez is always doing silly anti-Spurs Greatness trolling. Pop should get COTY every year until he retires because: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4hxm6DDTFs is a beautiful symphony that requires a standing ovation until the moment he is not longer performing
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Apr 13, 2017 22:54
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God just look at what they're doing to LeBron. Haha who called it watching John Henry lose to the steam drill?
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Apr 13, 2017 23:04
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Punkin Spunkin posted:"If you're going to skip one game to decrease the frequency of injury, you might as well skip the whole season!"- future Orlando Magic coach Jeff Van Gundy that was a real ear beating but I'm glad I stuck it out for JVG's description of his halftime routine
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Apr 13, 2017 23:11
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Best/worst shooting for the season:code:code:https://www.yahoo.com/tv/dennis-rodman-reveals-pearl-jam-saved-life-062448382.html Steph Curry And The Warriors Re-Write The Record Books Again http://sports.yahoo.com/news/steph-curry-warriors-write-record-134655130.html AggressivelyStupid posted:So justise Winslow is a giant bust, yeah? I'd say to give him a few more years of awful shooting for confirmation.
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Apr 13, 2017 23:11
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It's somewhat recency bias but the 2013-2014 (and also the 12-13 one) team is my favorite Spurs team ever and I was heartbroken when Manu, Diaw, and Parker all got a lot worse in 14-15 and the whole thing fell apart and the offense got a lot less pretty because now the best play every possession is to rely on Kawhi and/or Aldridge (yes I know this is spoiled Spurs fan bitching). Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Apr 13, 2017 |
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Apr 13, 2017 23:20
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It's kinda funny to see Westbrook dinged for his efficiency, because he put up the most FGA of his entire career (and the most since Kobe in 05/06!) and still finished with a career-best true shooting percentage
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Apr 13, 2017 23:25
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Zogo posted:Best/worst shooting for the season: Love a metric that shows Bulls PGs with 3 of the worst 9 shooting seasons this year, and another one they highly coveted at #4. What a weird little front office
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Apr 13, 2017 23:28
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Imagine how much better OKC would be trotting out Cam Payne instead of Semaj Christon
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Apr 13, 2017 23:32
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xbilkis posted:Love a metric that shows Bulls PGs with 3 of the worst 9 shooting seasons this year, and another one they highly coveted at #4. What a weird little front office Fred Hoiberg for COY. He coached this garbage fire of a roster to the playoffs something that alleged COY candidate Spo couldn't do.
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Apr 13, 2017 23:33
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xbilkis posted:It's kinda funny to see Westbrook dinged for his efficiency, because he put up the most FGA of his entire career (and the most since Kobe in 05/06!) and still finished with a career-best true shooting percentage I think the "ding" is just in comparison to Harden and Kawhi, who put up all-time great efficiencies. No one should be seriously arguing Westbrook didn't massively help his team. The agrument isn't "Is Westbrook great or not" it's "Is he the best player this season or the 2nd/3rd best?"
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Apr 13, 2017 23:40
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NickRoweFillea posted:Westbrook This is correct. Maybe Saric.
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Apr 13, 2017 23:41
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Lockback posted:I think the "ding" is just in comparison to Harden and Kawhi, who put up all-time great efficiencies. No one should be seriously arguing Westbrook didn't massively help his team. The agrument isn't "Is Westbrook great or not" it's "Is he the best player this season or the 2nd/3rd best?" Yeah, I get that you have to make tough distinctions to judge who had the best season this year. Before I looked it up, I just hadn't realized the degree to which Westbrook had managed to maintain his efficiency while putting up the highest USG% of all time
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Apr 13, 2017 23:49
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Apr 13, 2017 23:52
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xbilkis posted:It's kinda funny to see Westbrook dinged for his efficiency, because he put up the most FGA of his entire career (and the most since Kobe in 05/06!) and still finished with a career-best true shooting percentage In the same way the world's tallest midget is not something to be celebrated, a career best that is still below league average is not that big a deal.
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Apr 13, 2017 23:54
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I mean if you want to say stats don't matter just give it to the coolest dude just be upfront about that and don't use dumb stats to support the case.
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Apr 13, 2017 23:56
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MVP: Kawhi Leonard Harden Westbrook Lebron IT DPOY: Gobert Draymond DeAndre Jordan ROY: Saric Brogdan Hield MIP: Giannis Jokic Westbrook COY: D'Antoni Popovich Spo
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Apr 14, 2017 00:08
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Zogo posted:Best/worst shooting for the season: poor Ish. He was shooting a decent percentage during the time when KCP/Leueuer/Morris weren't shooting like 30% from three as a collective , and Drummond was still trying. He's not a good shooter but he really goes out of his way to not shoot, but because of Reggie Jackson's knees becoming like camel bones scraping against each other as a haboob blows in, had to play and shoot much more than anyone expected. Stanley Johnson is a haircut away from a decent shooting percentage, Justice too. You can even say that for cam payne. Semaj Christon has very short hair and so does Kris Dunn. I think the Nets will still offer Caldwell Pope a max offer sheet, but his shooting really plummeted once Drummond gave up, and that's with Drummond still not having any idea how to pass out of double teams, just his gravity as a roll man. Or other teams gathering to laugh at his post ups. I think Shaq might have had the same secret conversation with Drummond as he had in public with Dwight Howard. Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Apr 14, 2017 |
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Apr 14, 2017 00:10
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Ish actually had a career shooting year. He's still not particularly good but it's uplifting to see a guy persist as much as he has and kind of make it
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Apr 14, 2017 00:14
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xbilkis posted:It's kinda funny to see Westbrook dinged for his efficiency, because he put up the most FGA of his entire career (and the most since Kobe in 05/06!) and still finished with a career-best true shooting percentage A lot of dumb people are consumed with trying to seem like the smartest person in the room
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Apr 14, 2017 00:14
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MVP Westbrook COY Pop Rookie Embiid
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Apr 14, 2017 00:14
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Bad news for the Grizz. https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/852636005798731779
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Apr 14, 2017 00:18
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euphronius posted:Wow Hennigan has already been fired . It seemed like an obvious case of ownership demanding playoffs NOW, a GM scrambling to put together a win now team from a team of developmental young players with flaws, that team floundering, GM fired. The Ibaka trade showed they either really believed in the Gordon as sf thing, which failed totally and he played really well as a 4 once Ibaka was traded, or that he figured he was gone and was just doing a favor for his old boss so he'd have a job somewhere
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Apr 14, 2017 00:24
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Apr 14, 2017 00:30
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Spacebump posted:Bad news for the Grizz. https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/852636005798731779 One day I'm going to take and pass the MCAT based on poo poo I learn from nba tweets
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Apr 14, 2017 00:31
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The amount of Brogdon support is bizarre, but it's TYOOL 2017 and fake news lives.
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Apr 14, 2017 00:34
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xbilkis posted:It's kinda funny to see Westbrook dinged for his efficiency, because he put up the most FGA of his entire career (and the most since Kobe in 05/06!) and still finished with a career-best true shooting percentage the key words there are "career-best" He's a great player, but he's also a shameless chucker Harden scored almost as many points as Westbrook while taking 400(!) less shots. Harden also led the league in assists. I really don't see how a 29/11/8 stat line (with extreme efficiency) is less impressive than a 31/10/11 stat line with lousy efficiency.
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Lockback posted:I think the "ding" is just in comparison to Harden and Kawhi, who put up all-time great efficiencies. No one should be seriously arguing Westbrook didn't massively help his team. The agrument isn't "Is Westbrook great or not" it's "Is he the best player this season or the 2nd/3rd best?" this
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