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North Korea may have launched several missiles Wednesday: Kyodo I'd say this is in response to the Rex Tillerson's recent comments.
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According to the BBC, they laid a huge fart. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39300275
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/03/us/politics/north-korea-nuclear-trump-china.htmlquote:The online ad reads like something only a metallurgist could love: an offer to sell 22 pounds of highly pure lithium 6 every month, set for delivery from the port of Dandong, China.
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Apr 3, 2017 14:55
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mystes posted:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/03/us/politics/north-korea-nuclear-trump-china.html If the best the NYT has is "this unverified online ad on an unspecified site had the name of a North Korean official on it", there's no guarantee it's even a real North Korean ad. Even if it is, it's almost certainly elaborate posturing rather than a real attempt to sell nuclear materials - especially as many reports on the subject note that other than this ad, there isn't any particular evidence that North Korea actually has lithium-6.
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Apr 3, 2017 15:11
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I am very disappointed that none of the article links to aaid craislust ad.
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Apr 3, 2017 15:31
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Main Paineframe posted:If the best the NYT has is "this unverified online ad on an unspecified site had the name of a North Korean official on it", there's no guarantee it's even a real North Korean ad. Even if it is, it's almost certainly elaborate posturing rather than a real attempt to sell nuclear materials - especially as many reports on the subject note that other than this ad, there isn't any particular evidence that North Korea actually has lithium-6. Even if they did have some that is a lot of it to be selling every month.
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mystes posted:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/03/us/politics/north-korea-nuclear-trump-china.html Honestly it wouldn't be surprising if they put it on there as a lark and a giant middle finger. I think there was the UN ambassador quoted as saying a while back something like "You can put new sanctions on us but we'll just find ways around it anyway", which sort of explains their mentality on poo poo like this. If they didn't want it advertised, there's many ways they could have masked it instead of putting a drat craigslist ad out there. Instead, they chose the way that garners the most attention, which, if true, was their goal all along. Then again, who knows! It's the internet and it could have been someone bored.
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It is such a bizarrely specific thing to fake post though, if it was fake it might've been a honeypot or something.
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Apr 4, 2017 02:17
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True, so it could be a totally f you - wouldn't be totally out of line for the DPRK
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Apr 4, 2017 15:32
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So how many pounds of lithium 6 would a typical country with a nuclear program like the US or Russia be expected to have on hand? I'm trying to get context for how much having access to 22 pounds of it to sell each month is in relation to that.
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fishmech posted:So how many pounds of lithium 6 would a typical country with a nuclear program like the US or Russia be expected to have on hand? I'm trying to get context for how much having access to 22 pounds of it to sell each month is in relation to that. So let me preface this by saying I am absolutely NOT an expect on nuclear weapons or the like, but I found a couple of articles about lithium as a whole (apparently you can do some sort of crazy physics to get to Lithium-6, and I can't really find anything that says how much stockpile each country has): https://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/lithium/mcs-2016-lithi.pdf - this is the amount of lithium on hand worldwide (I think) http://isis-online.org/isis-reports/detail/north-koreas-lithium-6-production-for-nuclear-weapons - this is a report about NK's lithium-6 production (doesn't have huge data because hell, you can't get poo poo out of the country) According to people who study this and are vastly smarter than I am, 22 pounds suggests they at least have a robust production facility, but not at the levels of Russia and China (the US ceased Lithium-6 producting in 1963 apparently)
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Informative article about a shopping center for the small middle class in NK http://38north.org/2017/04/rfrank040617/
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fishmech posted:So how many pounds of lithium 6 would a typical country with a nuclear program like the US or Russia be expected to have on hand? I'm trying to get context for how much having access to 22 pounds of it to sell each month is in relation to that. the most fishmech post
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Apr 7, 2017 05:05
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Uncle Jam posted:Informative article about a shopping center for the small middle class in NK I liked this tidbit: quote:It seems that notes smaller than 100 Won are not being used; instead, locally made chewing gum is offered to customers as small change, each stick worth 50 Won. Making your currency edible seems like a risky move in NK.
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icantfindaname posted:the most fishmech post it's also relevant though???
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Apr 12, 2017 22:07
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i remeber hearing were are sending a fleet there and now it seems like even more, sounds like trump is trying to goad NK into attacking it.
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Apr 12, 2017 22:20
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Any likelihood that the Norks will take the bait? For once, they're not the only irrational actor in this.
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WarpedNaba posted:Any likelihood that the Norks will take the bait? For once, they're not the only irrational actor in this. thats what worries me. in the old days, we would just ignore them or have china bribe them off. now we have president tiny dick sending the imperial fleet with all the poo poo to sit over there while screaming openly for decapitation of the NK government. if there is any president that shouldn't handle poo poo like this, its him.
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WarpedNaba posted:Any likelihood that the Norks will take the bait? For once, they're not the only irrational actor in this. The one thing that's kept North Korea from pulling any really stupid poo poo has been that nobody has actually wanted to go to war with them. The regime remains (relatively) comfortable by using the constant existential threat of an invasion that never comes to keep its citizens in line and supportive, and nobody wants to invade because Kim is constantly at risk of pulling the trigger on either a nuke of some sort or all the guns pointed at Seoul if the threat becomes legitimate. Trump is currently running the risk of going too far with his intimidation. If the North Korean government actually has legitimate belief that an invasion is going to occur, I don't think they'll wait to shoot back.
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Apr 13, 2017 03:04
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when is the fleet going to arrive there?
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Apr 13, 2017 03:07
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I honestly sort of doubt Trump is really making the plans here. I imagine the military brass is flattering him and presenting response options where plan A is to do nothing and plan B is to execute the courageous manly plan that effete Obama never had the courage to carry out.  That said, a world where the State Department no longer exists and the military is leading a moronic president around by the nose is not in any way comforting.
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Apr 13, 2017 03:14
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I'm not a big fan of the U.S. military, but I'm not sure they're licking their lips at the idea of regime change in North Korea. Now, an attack to put the regime in its place, that I can believe.
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Apr 13, 2017 04:19
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Another nuke test inbound either tomorrow or the day after' maybe the 15th for the big boy's big day
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Apr 13, 2017 04:34
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The US military and North Korea posture at each other like this all the time. It's not exactly big news.
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Apr 13, 2017 04:42
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Except no president ever said they were sending in an armada.
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Main Paineframe posted:The US military and North Korea posture at each other like this all the time. It's not exactly big news. True. What's making people nervous is Kim and Trump are in charge now and the risk of either of them doing something that leads to war is higher than if others were in charge.
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chitoryu12 posted:The one thing that's kept North Korea from pulling any really stupid poo poo has been that nobody has actually wanted to go to war with them. The regime remains (relatively) comfortable by using the constant existential threat of an invasion that never comes to keep its citizens in line and supportive, and nobody wants to invade because Kim is constantly at risk of pulling the trigger on either a nuke of some sort or all the guns pointed at Seoul if the threat becomes legitimate. Victor Cha style analysis usually gets laughed out of this thread, hth.
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Unconfirmed as yet, but... https://twitter.com/pearswick/status/852374410400899072 Edit: https://twitter.com/pearswick/status/852375675524628480
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WarpedNaba posted:Any likelihood that the Norks will take the bait? For once, they're not the only irrational actor in this. i'm more worried Trump will go Gulf of Tonkin as an excuse
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Biggus Dickus posted:Unconfirmed as yet, but... Kim trolling the news media. Cool
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Apr 13, 2017 15:48
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IIRC, "big announcements" that turn out to be mundane puff-pieces have been a feature of covering NK since the 70s.
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nm posted:Kim trolling the news media. Cool Mods rename me to Kim Jong Trollun tia Seth Pecksniff fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Apr 13, 2017 |
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Those sabers, get them a-rattlin'. https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/852648458402115587 To be clear, this refers to their next nuclear test. Which is rumored to be Saturday.
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Main Paineframe posted:The US military and North Korea posture at each other like this all the time. It's not exactly big news. and weirdo rich dudes run for president all the time but they dont win. its 2017 mutherfucker!!!
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Teddybear posted:Those sabers, get them a-rattlin'. see. this is whats scary because its trump and his people saying it. so i honestly believe we will probably do it.
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Apr 14, 2017 00:45
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Maybe Trump just wants his own version of Obama's red line.
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Apr 14, 2017 00:49
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Main Paineframe posted:The US military and North Korea posture at each other like this all the time. It's not exactly big news. It's much more than usual from the US side. North Korea, though, yeah they make absurd threats and provocations constantly. Of course they also try to keep on the "don't actually start something" side of the line while extorting aid/money so they might actually dial things back a bit if they think the orange man might really respond to this round of bullshit with more than words.
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Teddybear posted:Those sabers, get them a-rattlin'. Well that's one way to make their feelings about the birth of Seth Rogan felt: 
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Teddybear posted:Those sabers, get them a-rattlin'. Reading through the article it states South Korea must consent to US strikes for them to happen.
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