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Got my copies of Samurai Spirit and Pandemic: The Cure tonight, looking forward to playing them this weekend. Wonder if I should play a solo game of them to learn them, or just read the rules and wing it. 
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Mister Sinewave posted:I got an ipad delivered today, for work mostly but was looking forward to some iOS gaming I guess. Just in time for many of the classic games to stop working when the 64 bit update hits in September. Gonna keep my old Ipad to play them.
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Apr 14, 2017 03:34
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Ciaphas posted:Got my copies of Samurai Spirit and Pandemic: The Cure tonight, looking forward to playing them this weekend. Wonder if I should play a solo game of them to learn them, or just read the rules and wing it. If you do try Samurai Spirit's solo game note that it plays kinda different than a multiplayer game. It's fun, but if you're trying to learn the game for teaching purposes I recommend just setting up a 4-person game and playing as every "player" to make sure you aren't learning the wrong rules. Also I definitely recommend playing mock-games before teaching them. It makes a world of difference. In fact just watch this old SU&SD video on teaching games; while their opinions on game design don't always mesh with mine, their meta-commentary is usually spot on. https://vimeo.com/92337137
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Apr 14, 2017 03:40
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Ciaphas posted:Got my copies of Samurai Spirit and Pandemic: The Cure tonight, looking forward to playing them this weekend. Wonder if I should play a solo game of them to learn them, or just read the rules and wing it. If you're uncertain, getting them out and at least playing a few turns before you have to teach it to anyone usually helps a ton. Sometimes it's overwhelming to teach a game that you are still 'uploading' and have to reference the rules for. I only really do it with certain people who I know are patient and want to just push buttons and pull levers and figure it out together. e:fb
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Apr 14, 2017 03:44
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Good idea, I'll set em both up for three or four players and play a game for myself tonight and tomorrow. Watch that SU&SD video while I'm at it. Of course I just know that by opening these things I'm going to create a disorganized goddamn mess when I try to box em up again 
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Apr 14, 2017 03:46
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Buy thousands of little thick zip lock baggies from Amazon. You'll thank me later.
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Apr 14, 2017 03:48
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Any opinions on Paperback? I've got burgle bros which I've enjoyed so I trust the designer. I think a light deck builder with a co-op mode (main thing my wife plays) would fit nicely in my small-but-growing game collection. Also, I've only played samurai spirit briefly, and we lost quickly because one player was an idiot, but i liked the concept/gameplay that I got in.
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Apr 14, 2017 03:51
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vlad3217 posted:Any opinions on Paperback? I've got burgle bros which I've enjoyed so I trust the designer. I think a light deck builder with a co-op mode (main thing my wife plays) would fit nicely in my small-but-growing game collection. We like word games and deckbuilders and enjoy Paperback. There's a good app that's like $3 you can try out. We play the app more than the physical copy by a large margin now. Deckbuilders are ripe for app translation, maybe more than any other game.
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Apr 14, 2017 03:54
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fozzy fosbourne posted:Buy thousands of little thick zip lock baggies from Amazon. You'll thank me later. Hell, This.
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Apr 14, 2017 03:57
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vlad3217 posted:Any opinions on Paperback? I've got burgle bros which I've enjoyed so I trust the designer. I think a light deck builder with a co-op mode (main thing my wife plays) would fit nicely in my small-but-growing game collection. Hardback looks like it's going to put slightly more emphasis on the deckbuilding.
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Apr 14, 2017 03:59
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The deckbuilding mechanics are adequate, but the word-making hits the same kind of thing as scrabble. I like it a lot and have found it a great intro game for the kind of people I typically play with (typically non/light gamers who will happily play scrabble or do crosswords). Yeah I'm between paperback and hardback but given that I think I would play this with mostly non/light gamers I'm leaning towards paperback, especially since the version in his website has the expansions in it. Have you tried co-op mode at all? Any good?
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vlad3217 posted:Have you tried co-op mode at all? Any good?
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Apr 14, 2017 04:10
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Someone earlier in this thread linked to the Kickstarter for Bloody Monday, a wargame about the Napoleon's battle to take Moscow. Something about this game broke my brain (wargame AND production values?!), and I am considering both backing the game and ordering copies of two other games, Waterloo 200 and Leningrad 41. Does anyone else have opinions on these games (they've also made a currently released game called Moscow 41) that they could share before I spend an exorbitant amount of money on wooden blocks and cardboard?
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Apr 14, 2017 04:11
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Good thing y'all told me to play a game solo, 'cos I've hit a question mark on Pandemic: The Cure. If I've cured a disease, what do I do with infection dice of that color in infections or epidemics? Do they still get placed, or ignored, or repicked/rolled? (e) Nevermind, found the answer, looks like they still get placed, which is different from Pandemic. Righto! (e again) lmao that game goes wrong fast, lost already 
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Apr 14, 2017 04:44
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fr0id posted:Someone earlier in this thread linked to the Kickstarter for Bloody Monday, a wargame about the Napoleon's battle to take Moscow. Something about this game broke my brain (wargame AND production values?!), and I am considering both backing the game and ordering copies of two other games, Waterloo 200 and Leningrad 41. Does anyone else have opinions on these games (they've also made a currently released game called Moscow 41) that they could share before I spend an exorbitant amount of money on wooden blocks and cardboard? That was me. Waterloo 200 is amazingly good, and achieves the wargame/euro game holy grail of being completely diceless. It also manages to be super Napoleonic without adding a bunch of tedious rules for formation. It's definitely worth the price. I've looked through the rules for Bloody Monday and they look almost identical, though they do add dice for combat (which maybe makes sense for Borodino specifically). I don't know anything about Leningrad. In general I think they're a pretty solid company that understands light wargame design, like the Italian version of Columbia Games.
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Apr 14, 2017 05:01
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Countblanc posted:If you do try Samurai Spirit's solo game note that it plays kinda different than a multiplayer game. It's fun, but if you're trying to learn the game for teaching purposes I recommend just setting up a 4-person game and playing as every "player" to make sure you aren't learning the wrong rules. Also thanks for linking that video, that was a good watch. I haven't introduced board games to anyone before, the "who/how/why" rule will help me frame the games nicely.
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Apr 14, 2017 05:06
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vlad3217 posted:Yeah I'm between paperback and hardback but given that I think I would play this with mostly non/light gamers I'm leaning towards paperback, especially since the version in his website has the expansions in it. How is Paperback more non-gamer friendly than Hardback, you reckon? My (sparse) early impressions of the game would have me thinking the opposite. Serotoning fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Apr 14, 2017 |
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Apr 14, 2017 05:29
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Gilgameshback posted:That was me. Waterloo 200 is amazingly good, and achieves the wargame/euro game holy grail of being completely diceless. It also manages to be super Napoleonic without adding a bunch of tedious rules for formation. It's definitely worth the price. I've looked through the rules for Bloody Monday and they look almost identical, though they do add dice for combat (which maybe makes sense for Borodino specifically). I don't know anything about Leningrad. In general I think they're a pretty solid company that understands light wargame design, like the Italian version of Columbia Games. I bit the bullet. Less than two years after selling Europe Engulfed and Asia Engulfed for an embarrassingly small amount to Half Price Books, I'm back on my bullshit with wargames. Blame Triumph and Tragedy for giving me one of the best gaming experiences I've had.
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Apr 14, 2017 05:40
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Could someone sell me on Diskwars? I picked up Forbidden Stars and Fury of Dracula since they are going out of print and they both turned out awesome. Was wondering if Diskwars is more of the same.
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Apr 14, 2017 05:43
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Pvt. Parts posted:How is Paperback more non-gamer friendly than Hardback, you reckon? My (spare) early impressions of the game would have me thinking the opposite. My sense from the designer's description in the kickstarter of the difference between the two is that hardback has a little more nuance to what all the cards do, which I think would make it harder for a casual gamer to pick up quickly. More nuance/rules also means deeper strategy in the long term, but if I'm playing infrequently with my family that may not matter. In the end I think I'd be happy with either, mainly wanted other opinions before I potentially order one of them.
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Apr 14, 2017 05:57
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KPC_Mammon posted:Could someone sell me on Diskwars? I picked up Forbidden Stars and Fury of Dracula since they are going out of print and they both turned out awesome. Was wondering if Diskwars is more of the same. It's an actual miniatures wargame, except with pogs and good rules. As in, using rulers, preconstructing armies and so on. It is most excellent and you shoulds deffo pick it up while possible, as it won't ever get reprinted.
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Apr 14, 2017 07:37
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Ciaphas posted:Good thing y'all told me to play a game solo, 'cos I've hit a question mark on Pandemic: The Cure. If I've cured a disease, what do I do with infection dice of that color in infections or epidemics? Do they still get placed, or ignored, or repicked/rolled?
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Lichtenstein posted:It's an actual miniatures wargame, except with pogs and good rules. As in, using rulers, preconstructing armies and so on. It is most excellent and you shoulds deffo pick it up while possible, as it won't ever get reprinted. How is it a miniatures wargame if I'm not spending hundreds of dollars and feeling lovely about my inability to paint well? I'll give it a try, thanks.
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One game in my collection I've never gotten around to playing is Kremlin, anyone have any tips for first time paying it? I've got the newer edition. I've done pretty okay I think my little collection of games only has two I've not played which is Kremlin and Time Stories but we are playing the latter when I get back from travels so that's okay. Actually any tips on Time Stories too? Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Apr 14, 2017 |
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Apr 14, 2017 08:50
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Lorini posted:Just in time for many of the classic games to stop working when the 64 bit update hits in September. Gonna keep my old Ipad to play them. Haven't heard about this. Is there a list somewhere?
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Apr 14, 2017 09:41
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vlad3217 posted:Have you tried [Paperback's] co-op mode at all? Any good? Doctor Spaceman posted:I've given it a solo run (I lost on the final card) and was actually going to try it with my girlfriend later this afternoon. We lost the co-op. It feels easy to fall behind and near the end you need to make high scoring words every few turns to avoid losing. Girlfriend didn't like it as much as the normal version (which she won), but she's naturally competitive with this kind of thing (we're the kind of people who will race each other to do the quick crossword). It's very easy to tweak though, since you can use a different layout or a different threshold for losing.
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Jedit posted:Haven't heard about this. Is there a list somewhere? https://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/64200/impending-64-bit-apocalypse-games-may-not-work-ios more in the comments as well.
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Apr 14, 2017 16:07
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Aghama posted:Sounds the same to me? In Pandemic you have to eradicate, not simply cure, a disease to ignore it during the infection step. Turns out you apply cured diseases even if they've been eradicated in Pandemic: The Cure. At least you still get the "treat all at once" benefit, I guess 
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Apr 14, 2017 17:47
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So almost a full year after buying it, I'm finally getting around to trying Wrath of Dragons and I'm having a hard time with the rules. Is there a Youtube video or something I can watch to give me an example of the game flow and rules?
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fozzy fosbourne posted:There was an interesting conversation on the Perfect Information podcast about board game collections recently. One of the hosts was ashamed of his large collection, but the other host was making a comparison to a large book collection. If you have a couple large book shelves full of books that you haven't read yet or will not read again, nobody gives a poo poo, but if you have a couple book shelves full of board games, the self-loathing kicks in for a lot of folks. He argued that he doesn't mind keeping games that he will only play every few years if the game was really great, because it serves as a memento of that experience and something he really likes having. Just looking at it on the shelf brings him some joy. He doesn't mind being equal parts gamer and collector, when it comes to board games. I think it's fine if people decide that they are collectors and would just like to collect. I'm personally not a collector and have the same issue with books that I do with boardgames. Especially with kindle and ebooks it's really hard for me to justify keeping a print book at this point. It can also depend a lot on your living situation; if you know you're going to move again and again it's a lot harder to justify keeping huge quantities of games or books. If you know like 100% that you are staying in a house you own that has plenty of room, it's less of an issue to me if you just want to load a whole room up with books or games because you like having them all. My main argument for keeping my collection small is basically that I want every game on my shelf to be a game that I 100% want to play. If I have people over and they are looking through my games, I don't want to have a mediocre game on my shelf that I don't really feel like playing for them to choose from. I think a fair number of people who are not actually "collectors" end up buying games just for the satisfaction of buying a new thing, and that's why they feel bad bout having big collections. They are acknowledging to themselves that they bought poo poo just to buy poo poo, and they don't really have intentions of playing many games ever again. I only really get annoyed by this when it turns into people at meetups always having some new game every single week that we have to do a rules explanation and teaching game for--only to never see that game show up ever again.
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i have a lot of games because i like learning new mechanics and seeing how they interact, but of all the games that i buy i only regularly play around 20 percent of them, and haven't played another 20 percent because they're a little niche for my friends. that's ok  I still like learning about how different games are put together and what makes them work. The middle 60 percent of games still get brought out a decent amount, and I only regret a game purchase if its both bad and extremely derivative. Plus, I have games for every occasion - trading games, heavy euros, social, wargames, etc. My buying has slowed down a lot now that I've covered all of my bases, but I still pay attention to what's new and try to get games that innovate or iterate on existing designs well, like gloomhaven or The Colonists. The pace of boardgame development is waay too exciting to get left behind on. We're lucky to have so many new games each year that manage to actually stand the test of time. When I compare this to how many times I've sighed upon playing a new video game and realizing that it doesn't do anything new or better compared to most games in its field boardgames win in a landslide.
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angel opportunity posted:I'm personally not a collector and have the same issue with books that I do with boardgames. Especially with kindle and ebooks it's really hard for me to justify keeping a print book at this point. Personally, I find reading ebooks on a phone or tablet to be a physically unpleasant experience--and playing games on them is nearly as bad. I'll only play boardgames online when I'm having a difficult time getting a physical, face-to-face game arranged (notable exception: getting in a quick round or two at dominion.games).
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CaptainRightful posted:Personally, I find reading ebooks on a phone or tablet to be a physically unpleasant experience--and playing games on them is nearly as bad. I'll only play boardgames online when I'm having a difficult time getting a physical, face-to-face game arranged (notable exception: getting in a quick round or two at dominion.games). have you tried an e-ink reader? I'm no huge fan of reading on a tablet or phone, but e-ink readers are so amazingly comfortable and easy on the eyes now. after a long day I can still get 60-90 minutes of reading on a kindle paperwhite in the dark.
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I buy a lot of games in my search for the right set of games. I am getting pickier but I should delete the KS app off my phone because I'm an idiot.
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ketchup vs catsup posted:have you tried an e-ink reader? I'm no huge fan of reading on a tablet or phone, but e-ink readers are so amazingly comfortable and easy on the eyes now. after a long day I can still get 60-90 minutes of reading on a kindle paperwhite in the dark. I have, but still prefer actual paper for both visual and tactile reasons. Part of this might be that I'm a developer, so I already have to stare at a screen 8+ hours a day. I still play a few video games, but am much happier when I have the time to push cardboard counters and tiny blocks of wood around a table. And I like having my walls lined with bookshelves that I can browse--scrolling through a screen full of titles just can't replicate that experience. Friends and guests can also browse and I can lend them something (or pull a game off the shelf) that they find interesting. I figured that real human interaction was one of the reasons most of us enjoy this hobby (wargamers excluded, of course).
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Got a couple of games of Brew Crafters in this week. It is very much Agricola with beer. We played the basic game, no extra actions, and basic research boards since both games were teaching multiple people. The action spaces feel very tight, with someone always taking something you really wanted. First player feels incredibly important, but not so important that you can't win without it. Collaboration works very well, giving everyone incentive to complete it even though it's going to give someone else points. Overall, I prefer it to Agricola, primarily because I'm on even footing with this, where Agricola has me going against people who've been playing for years and I've only played 3 times.
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I'm trying to make a trade with someone for their copy of Agricola but it's made by Lookout games which seems like and older version I have never seen before. Is there a significant difference between older versions and the new revised version from Mayfair?
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Rad Valtar posted:I'm trying to make a trade with someone for their copy of Agricola but it's made by Lookout games which seems like and older version I have never seen before. Is there a significant difference between older versions and the new revised version from Mayfair? Yes, there is a significant difference. I've only played the old version, new version is by accounts better balanced, has fewer awful cards, doesn't really play 5 (not that you want to imo), dunno what else.
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Rad Valtar posted:I'm trying to make a trade with someone for their copy of Agricola but it's made by Lookout games which seems like and older version I have never seen before. Is there a significant difference between older versions and the new revised version from Mayfair? The older edition is actually better. It comes with pieces to play 5 players instead of only 4, and more cards. If it is a really old version it might not have the cute sheep tokens and stuff, only coloured wooden disks.
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Rutibex posted:The older edition is actually better. It comes with pieces to play 5 players instead of only 4, and more cards. If it is a really old version it might not have the cute sheep tokens and stuff, only coloured wooden disks. Reminder, this guy is the resident troll/idiot and you should never take his poo poo advice. The new one is universally better.
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