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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
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I hope we get some kind of timeskip so that Goten and Trunks get older and we have more Gotenks fun. They sort of seem to be building the "Trunks and Goten sparring and wanting to fight" thing in Super. Maybe some day they'll surpass SSJ1.
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Apr 15, 2017 03:08
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So I've read Dragonball. What do I read after that? What do I ignore
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Apr 15, 2017 03:11
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RC Cola posted:So I've read Dragonball. What do I read after that? What do I ignore you read Dragon Ball 2
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Apr 15, 2017 03:13
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Did you read all of it? I don't remember if the US release has Z separated or not.
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Apr 15, 2017 03:14
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I read up to majian buu. Also is there a good site?
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Apr 15, 2017 03:29
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RC Cola posted:I read up to majian buu. Also is there a good site? Read the newer Bardock story and DB Minus. Then ignore it and watch Super like the rest of us.
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Apr 15, 2017 03:39
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RC Cola posted:I read up to majian buu. Also is there a good site? Read Jaco the Galactic Patrolman.
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Apr 15, 2017 03:44
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Rirse posted:Was watching the Dragon Ball Kai episodes I missed on the DVR today...I forgot how brutal and uncomfortable the Videl/Spopovich was. Think after that fight Video stopped fight all together and just turned into a support character like Chi-Chi. Just a coincidence/bad writing. Super's timeline of changing from 5 years to having Gohan get her pregnant pretty much right away makes things weirder. It's not like she'd help much in fights considering she just learned to fly like a day before Buu shows up. Fav part of that is still Videl getting pissed and breaking Spopovich's neck she didn't know he was basically immortal either she tried to kill that dude. Where is that character it's amazing how much different Android 18 vs Videl are as characters. I'd like it if Hercule or Videl trained Pan just so we don't have so many Turtle school fighters. I miss that from dragonball  where's my weird martial arts schools and combat tricks.
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Apr 15, 2017 04:04
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Well, Gohan could train her, but Gohan doesn't know how to train in ways that aren't incredibly abusive. "Okay, so Pan sweetie, for your first stage in training, Grandpa Piccolo is going to kill me so I can gently caress off for a year, and then he's going to steal you from mommy and raise you as his own. After that, a giant muscular man will arrive and beat the ever loving poo poo out of you, killing Grandpa Piccolo in the process, and I'll arrive too late to save anyone and won't actually accomplish anything. Okay now this is where it gets tricky-"
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Apr 15, 2017 04:16
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RC Cola posted:So I've read Dragonball. What do I read after that? What do I ignore Watch the good DBZ movies, watch Battle of the Gods and Return of F, read the manga of the tournament against fat Beerus's fighting boys, then watch Super from there.
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Apr 15, 2017 04:19
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Professor Wayne posted:Watch the good DBZ movies, watch Battle of the Gods and Return of F, read the manga of the tournament against fat Beerus's fighting boys, then watch Super from there. Nah the Hit Fight is lamer in the manga.
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Apr 15, 2017 04:22
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Yeah no the manga for Super is garbage just watch the anime after the Resurrection F Saga
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Apr 15, 2017 04:26
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Doesn't the Hit fight in the manga Exclude Kaioken? Considering there's literally an (awesome) episode dedicated to the aftermath of that it'd be weird to not just watch the anime version.
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Apr 15, 2017 04:33
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The Super manga turns SSG into a regular powerup which doesn't really make sense.
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Apr 15, 2017 04:35
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If you ignore the manga, SSG makes total sense as this super powerful form that is nearly on par with Beerus, but only lasts a short time. IT brought Goku to a new height of power, but even as a SSB, he's not as strong as SSJ God If you include the Manga, Goku surpassed Beerus ages ago and is way more powerful than everyone short of Zeno
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Apr 15, 2017 04:37
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Pretty sure SSG is not more powerful than SSB. Beerus was also only fighting at like 70%.
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Apr 15, 2017 04:41
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SSG is cooler when it requires a ritual to do and then leaves a permanent mark of god ki on the person afterwards as just another transformation stage its not as fun or interesting
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Apr 15, 2017 04:50
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Kelp Plankton posted:SSG is cooler when it requires a ritual to do and then leaves a permanent mark of god ki on the person afterwards p much
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Apr 15, 2017 04:53
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Aurora posted:Pretty sure SSG is not more powerful than SSB. Beerus was also only fighting at like 70%. SSB's other official names is "Super Sayian God Super Saiyan" (as in what happens when you go Super Saiyan as a SSG). It would not actually make any sense for it to be weaker.
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Apr 15, 2017 04:55
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SirKibbles posted:Just a coincidence/bad writing. Super's timeline of changing from 5 years to having Gohan get her pregnant pretty much right away makes things weirder. It's not like she'd help much in fights considering she just learned to fly like a day before Buu shows up. Fav part of that is still Videl getting pissed and breaking Spopovich's neck she didn't know he was basically immortal either she tried to kill that dude. Where is that character it's amazing how much different Android 18 vs Videl are as characters. It annoyed me a whole lot for Videl, who is completely different in almost every way and so placid it hurts compared to her old self. But for 18 though I think it kind of makes sense, in Z she just came across as a bored teenager who didn't get any particular kick out of fighting in and of itself she was just killing time with near infinite power. When 17 was fighting Piccollo she clearly gives absolutely no shits about what was going on. In the intervening years she just grew up a bit and took on more responsibilities, she still has that ice cold demeanor and can throw a punch if the situation calls for it. A thing I love that Super carries over is how money seems to be a huge motivator for her compared to other characters.
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Apr 15, 2017 05:19
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Aurora posted:Pretty sure SSG is not more powerful than SSB. Beerus was also only fighting at like 70%. The Super version of that scene took out the number, probably because they didn't want to commit to giving Beerus a set power level. SSG is essentially just turning on a "is a god now" flag.
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Apr 15, 2017 05:57
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Yeah as far as I can tell, SSB is literally "Turn into the cool looking form with God ki and fire aura and then go SSj during that form which turns it blue and the hair spiky which is yawn but at least the aura looks/sounds divine" It's just SSG + SSj = SSB Further as I can tell, hell, all Goku and Vegeta needed was to see some example of God ki to actually path into it and use it, Beerus essentially opened pandora's box by being a lazy worthless hungry Garfield and allowing Goku to play on his level
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Apr 15, 2017 07:07
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ImpAtom posted:Doesn't the Hit fight in the manga Exclude Kaioken? Considering there's literally an (awesome) episode dedicated to the aftermath of that it'd be weird to not just watch the anime version. The actual problem with the manga version is that Goku clowns on Hit in base form and then just keeps going through all his forms just to humiliate him more. To have the final match of a tournament just be the protagonist wrecking his opponent isn't very fun or engaging, really. I haven't read all of the Goku Black arc yet, and honestly don't really feel like doing it, but it seems to be going in the same direction. Goku and Vegeta are basically untouchable and it's the Zamasus playing catch-up rather than vice versa. The impression I got is that the manga author is just really enamoured with the idea of Goku as the uncontested strongest in the universe and it makes stuff way less interesting, at least to me.
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Apr 15, 2017 08:33
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a cartoon duck posted:The actual problem with the manga version is that Goku clowns on Hit in base form and then just keeps going through all his forms just to humiliate him more. To have the final match of a tournament just be the protagonist wrecking his opponent isn't very fun or engaging, really. That's how Goku's Dragonball tournaments went, too. Jackie Chun vs. Goku is great because we're rooting for Jackie against this monster. ImpAtom posted:Doesn't the Hit fight in the manga Exclude Kaioken? Considering there's literally an (awesome) episode dedicated to the aftermath of that it'd be weird to not just watch the anime version. Filler.
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Apr 15, 2017 09:02
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Technically both the anime and manga are filler
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Apr 15, 2017 09:04
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a cartoon duck posted:The actual problem with the manga version is that Goku clowns on Hit in base form and then just keeps going through all his forms just to humiliate him more. To have the final match of a tournament just be the protagonist wrecking his opponent isn't very fun or engaging, really. The manga actually does Black better imho. Goku and Vegeta clown on black but don't finish the job. Zamasu heals him which gets him a Zenkai and Super Saiyan Rose (instead of it appearing from nowhere) at which point he starts beating on Vegeta. They come back, Vegeta fights in Super Saiyan God/Red (which is a transitionary form that is stronger than gold but weaker than blue) and proceeds to slap around Black while the latter is totally confused. Turns out Vegeta has learned to switch on blue just at the moment of impact to save energy. Goku isn't brain dead retarded (he doesn't let the pot get broken, and he tries to remember the talisman) but he accidentally grabbed a strip club flyer instead. Zamasu breaks out and they fuse. While the Hit thing was stupid, one nice thing is that the Manga seems to be written by someone who gives slight amounts of fucks about keeping some semblance of order to the power scaling. The various forms have their own uses, and people don't randomly get stronger or weaker for no adequately explored reason, which is nice.
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Apr 15, 2017 10:56
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sassassin posted:That's how Goku's Dragonball tournaments went, too. I'll grant you that Goku's fights in the first two rounds tend to be curb-stomps, but the finals are pretty even. Sure, there's a lot of Goku's opponent being befuddled that this idiot child is actually a genius martial artist, but at the end of all three tournaments both contestants end up almost equally banged up. Doesn't really compare to manga Goku slapping Hit around for a bit and then just forfeiting.
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Apr 15, 2017 11:19
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The manga and Anime both have things I think they do better than the other. The Vegeta vs Black thing with vegeta's snap-moments SSB flaring up would have been awesome int he show for example.
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Apr 15, 2017 12:17
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Caros posted:The manga actually does Black better imho. Goku and Vegeta clown on black but don't finish the job. Zamasu heals him which gets him a Zenkai and Super Saiyan Rose (instead of it appearing from nowhere) at which point he starts beating on Vegeta. They come back, Vegeta fights in Super Saiyan God/Red (which is a transitionary form that is stronger than gold but weaker than blue) and proceeds to slap around Black while the latter is totally confused. Turns out Vegeta has learned to switch on blue just at the moment of impact to save energy. holy god no the manga is much worse black's true nature gets revealed by the others instead of black telling goku while he's beating the poo poo out of him. it's just a waste
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Apr 15, 2017 13:10
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a cartoon duck posted:I'll grant you that Goku's fights in the first two rounds tend to be curb-stomps, but the finals are pretty even. Sure, there's a lot of Goku's opponent being befuddled that this idiot child is actually a genius martial artist, but at the end of all three tournaments both contestants end up almost equally banged up. Doesn't really compare to manga Goku slapping Hit around for a bit and then just forfeiting. Goku vs. Hit wasn't the final.
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Apr 15, 2017 13:28
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the manga has SSG Vegeta which is pretty cool
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Apr 15, 2017 14:43
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The manga is Toyotaro inserting a bunch of stuff from his old fanfics
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Apr 15, 2017 14:47
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The anime is Toei inserting a bunch of stuff from their fanfics sooooo Anyway, they both have good points and bad. You can prefer one over the other, but neither is "more canon" or "more filler."
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Apr 15, 2017 14:57
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Reinanigans posted:The anime is Toei inserting a bunch of stuff from their fanfics sooooo 
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Apr 15, 2017 15:28
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Caros posted:Turns out Vegeta has learned to switch on blue just at the moment of impact to save energy. Wait, isn't the whole thing with Blue that you don't need to do that sort of thing because it's a "calmer" form or whatever? I thought they mentioned that it caused a lot less strain than regular SSJ pretty regularly.
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Apr 15, 2017 16:17
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Reinanigans posted:The anime is Toei inserting a bunch of stuff from their fanfics sooooo Nah, the manga's behind, and it copies the plot beats of the anime but makes them worse so it's filler
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Apr 15, 2017 16:39
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Aurora posted:Buu saga is actually paced pretty well, the Kai was pretty unnecessary ive been watching kai every week and buu kai is just as glacial as the rest of kai i actual pulled out my volumes last week and the episode before last was stretching 12 loving pages out of a 17 page chapter into 22 minutes the last one was about a full chapter though don't worry
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Apr 15, 2017 16:44
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Zinkraptor posted:Wait, isn't the whole thing with Blue that you don't need to do that sort of thing because it's a "calmer" form or whatever? I thought they mentioned that it caused a lot less strain than regular SSJ pretty regularly. Super Saiyan Blue works differently between the anime and manga. In the anime, it seems to have no weaknesses (beyond Goku saying it is tiring but showing no hints towards being tired at any point during or after its use). In the manga, it's basically SS3-tier of garbage, using it twice in a row lowers its power to around 10% of what it was (lower than God) and it can't be kept for long. Vegeta manages to surpass this limitation by using Super Saiyan God (which he has in the manga, implying that he underwent the SSG ritual there unlike the anime) and switching to Blue only when he attacks. Goku just uses God because Zamasu is kind of a joke in a fight beyond being completely invincible.
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Apr 15, 2017 17:02
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Zinkraptor posted:Wait, isn't the whole thing with Blue that you don't need to do that sort of thing because it's a "calmer" form or whatever? I thought they mentioned that it caused a lot less strain than regular SSJ pretty regularly. Worse: IIRC, in the manga, Hit beat Vegeta so easily because just transforming into SSJB was so draining.
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Apr 15, 2017 17:02
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Wow the manga is trash. Hell even worse, boring trash.
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Apr 15, 2017 17:08
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