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Goku | 202 | 7.09% | |
Vegeta | 279 | 9.79% | |
Krillin | 208 | 7.30% | |
Piccolo or his nameks | 212 | 7.44% | |
Gohan or Cool Gohan | 135 | 4.74% | |
Yamcha | 90 | 3.16% | |
Tien | 120 | 4.21% | |
Muten Roshi | 89 | 3.12% | |
Tao Pai Pai | 71 | 2.49% | |
Frieza | 69 | 2.42% | |
Cell or an android | 86 | 3.02% | |
Buu | 62 | 2.18% | |
Hercule "Mark" Satan | 327 | 11.48% | |
Videl | 90 | 3.16% | |
Bulma | 104 | 3.65% | |
Yajirobe | 99 | 3.47% | |
Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy | 68 | 2.39% | |
King kai or another kai | 53 | 1.86% | |
Chi-Chi | 83 | 2.91% | |
Goten | 43 | 1.51% | |
Trunks or Cool Trunks | 112 | 3.93% | |
Bardock | 48 | 1.68% | |
Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) | 41 | 1.44% | |
Uub | 42 | 1.47% | |
Oolong | 90 | 3.16% | |
Zamasu | 26 | 0.91% | |
Total: | 1326 votes |
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I swear if this show is setting it up that Uub is one of #17's kids...
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 04:06 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 04:40 |
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Adder Moray posted:I swear if this show is setting it up that Uub is one of #17's kids... Have the other kid be Neko Majin though.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 04:07 |
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Raxivace posted:Not gonna lie, I would actually like that. Who says Uub has to be one of the adopted one?
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 04:09 |
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Uub isn't 17s kid, he was competing in a tournament to get food for his village. Even if 17 loses his ranger job I doubt his family will ever need to fight for money.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 04:15 |
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You know it just occurred to me that when Goku offered Trunks and Goten, Android 17 probably totally thought he was talking about Future Trunks.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 04:15 |
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If Beerus doesn't watch himself with all that eating, he's going to end up looking like Champa
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 04:56 |
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Doctor Gero Design Document Potential base line of new androids- capable of wiping out Solar systems, just in case Goku some how fulfills ancient alien prophesy. Limits of new androids- What are you joking? Goku might find some way to go even further beyond, or even some other alien prophesy. No, no, no limits. Also design bug man to eat them and be even stronger. Just in case. Seriously for the love of Christ, imagine how powerful Cell would be if he spent any time at any day at any moment training. Just, once, train. Imagine what bullshit he could pull off
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 04:59 |
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Burkion posted:Seriously for the love of Christ, imagine how powerful Cell would be if he spent any time at any day at any moment training. Just, once, train. Imagine what bullshit he could pull off In reverse to my earlier stance i think it would actually crush him, imagine if he trained and became stronger and then he realized that he was not and could not ever become truly perfect.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 05:01 |
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Burkion posted:Doctor Gero Design Document Can't believe Cell wasted so much time drinking people when he could've spent five minutes training and surpassed SSJ2 Gohan without even eating an Android.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 05:02 |
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ImpAtom posted:You know it just occurred to me that when Goku offered Trunks and Goten, Android 17 probably totally thought he was talking about Future Trunks. Yeah, that was hilarious.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 05:06 |
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Didn't Future Trunks specifically tell them about how he was gonna kill them because his future got hosed up by them
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 05:11 |
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Super Saiyan Blue Goku sending a Kamehameha at you? Just gonna put up my shield and not give a single gently caress.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 05:12 |
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ImpAtom posted:No, it's absolutely true. You're paying attention to the big power ups and ignoring all the other power ups that people get to remain remotely relevant. Recall that in a year of training Krillin went from being weaker to Goku who was weaker than Raditz to being able to oneshot several Raditz-level enemies with a single attack. Dr. Gero went from making earth-level Androids to making ones that could effortlessly kill the omnipotent galactic tyrant. The reason why it stands out with Saiyans and such is because they ate the show and the other characters got way fewer fights, not because they also didn't get bullshit power ups that put them on the eternal level of 'close to strong enough." The problem with Super isn't people getting stronger through training. That is pretty much dragonball 101. Someone reaches a new level, and that becomes the new normal for some or all of the cast after the next extended break or the next powerup. And it's that last bit that you aren't understanding. In the anime, Goku Black powers up with zero explanation, with the exception of Rose (which does make sense). Goku punches him in the chest, and I guess he is stronger now. Vegeta spends a year in the time chamber, comes back and beats the poo poo out of Black who goes back to outclassing him shortly thereafter because he gets annoyed. Black starts creating dimensional rifts and Kage-Bunshin which even the anime points out is sort of ridiculous. Trunks likewise spends a decent chunk of an episode not getting obliterated in his regular super saiyan form (Not SSJIDGAF) against a guy he lost miserably against before he got seven or eight random powerups. Dragonball does have a pretty consistent power scaling at any particular point in time, and when people power up they power up for a reason. They change forms, they train, they use some new technique. In the anime Black gets stronger because reasons, whereas in the manga adaptation they actually have a reason. The complaint isn't about people getting stronger, its about people getting stronger in the middle of a fight without any explanation. Edit: Yes he does.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 05:33 |
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You could easily say Black got stronger because he figured out how to use Goku's body more. Like, he wasn't sure how to go Super Saiyan but once he saw Goku do it again, he figured it out.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 05:38 |
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Caros posted:The problem with Super isn't people getting stronger through training. That is pretty much dragonball 101. Someone reaches a new level, and that becomes the new normal for some or all of the cast after the next extended break or the next powerup. And it's that last bit that you aren't understanding. Black was just holding back to be more smug the whole time.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 05:41 |
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Rutibex posted:Black was just holding back to be more smug the whole time. This is pretty consistent with his character.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 05:51 |
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Caros posted:The problem with Super isn't people getting stronger through training. That is pretty much dragonball 101. Someone reaches a new level, and that becomes the new normal for some or all of the cast after the next extended break or the next powerup. And it's that last bit that you aren't understanding. Goku Black functions under exactly the same rules as Goku does just with a guy willing to exploit it in a way Goku doesn't. It isn't just Zenkai that makes Goku gets stronger. Goku just does. You can argue it's bullshit but he's the same guy who randomly picks up or makes up skills out of nowhere. (Remember the time he read Krillin's mind?) Or more relevantly Goku naturally learned to harness God energy after the ritual to the point he was using it in his regular form afterwards. It is why he wanted Goku's body in the first place because Goku (and I assume all Saiyans) have a weird-rear end setup where they constant get stronger for no clear reason. Goku Black's entire reason for getting bullshit stronger is that he got Goku. Trunks on the other hand isn't really hard to explain: Trunks got his poo poo wrecked and healed multiple times over the course of the Goku Black arc and "I got wrecked and came back strong enough to stand up to the guy who wrecked me before" is Saiyan Biology 101 at this point. Super Saiyan isn't a hard limit, it's just a multiplier to how strong he is. Not to mention that general emotions seem to be a big trigger for Saiyans in general. It's literally what gives them Super Saiyan in addition to stuff like NOT MY BULMA or the entire history of Gohan freaking the gently caress out.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 05:52 |
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Plus he absorbed the power of the spirit bomb.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 05:54 |
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Plus Vegeta punched him a couple times during their 'training' session so that's totally a zenkai boost right there.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 05:56 |
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goku black literally says, multiple times, that the more he sees goku in action the more he understands how to use his own body better. thats why he gets excited about fighting goku. its totally explained, unless you arent paying attention, in which case nothing is ever explained i guess
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 06:08 |
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vegeta gets beaten by goku, vegeta gets beaten by black goku, is there a single goku this man can defeat?! answer: no
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 06:20 |
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They never explained how Yamcha was able to survive the multiverse baseball match, this is bullshit
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 06:21 |
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Kelp Plankton posted:goku black literally says, multiple times, that the more he sees goku in action the more he understands how to use his own body better. thats why he gets excited about fighting goku. its totally explained, unless you arent paying attention, in which case nothing is ever explained i guess no but the manga is better
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 06:22 |
Pretty good episode, some wacky powerlevel shenanigans, but the fight between 17 and Goku was gorgeous. Pretty pissed off that we didn't see 17's family.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 06:26 |
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Aurora posted:no but the manga is better The manga is like anime cliff notes, but then you can just read Wikipedia.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 06:35 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:Plus he absorbed the power of the spirit bomb. trunks was being powered by the planet the whole time
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 06:38 |
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power levels are bullshit
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 07:01 |
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17 meeting Trunks has to happen soon. Hopefully we get a few episodes of the team all together. How many people can enter the Time Chamber at once?
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 07:06 |
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Pretty good episode, some wacky powerlevel shenanigans, but the fight between 17 and Goku was gorgeous. Pretty pissed off that we didn't see 17's family. they're saving the reveal for later on, when we find out that he married launch this is how tien gets into the tournament team
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 07:08 |
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Kelp Plankton posted:they're saving the reveal for later on, when we find out that he married Suno/Snow For even more obscurity.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 07:10 |
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:They never explained how Yamcha was able to survive the multiverse baseball match, this is bullshit Yamcha is such a joke hes become part gag character. But only just enough to not die.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 07:21 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Yamcha is such a joke hes become part gag character. I mean he got to buddy-whack a Destroyer on the back and had a laugh, I think Yamcha died so hard and bad that now he CAN'T die, but will forever sacrifice his relevance. Also why are people arguing power levels. They will never make sense, everyone will always fight on one of three settings - too weak, barely strong enough, overwhelming strength. That's it. That's the three transformations everyone in the entire comic is set to, all the time.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 07:58 |
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Yamcha is the greatest hero of Universe 7.Rudoku posted:For even more obscurity. Nah, Suno is best buds with Eighter and isn't that obscure (and tried to shoot King Piccolo in the face). Kelp Plankton posted:they're saving the reveal for later on, when we find out that he married Chuu Lee THERE we go.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 08:08 |
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17 ain't loving around daym
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 08:10 |
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I hope we get to see a reaction from the 17 and Piccolo reunion
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 08:11 |
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Rutibex posted:Dr Gero created Cell, who has the most OP training powers imaginable. If he just blew himself up a five or six more times he would have unlocked his golden form and become more powerful than Zeno or something. Actually this would be a terrible idea. Cell survived self destructing because his core survived. If he blew himself up again who knows if he would get lucky and his core would survive.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 08:13 |
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MonsterEnvy posted:Actually this would be a terrible idea. Cell survived self destructing because his core survived. If he blew himself up again who knows if he would get lucky and his core would survive. Wouldn't it be easier for Cell's core to survive after the 1st self destruct survival? You know, cause Zenkai boost and poo poo
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 08:43 |
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lezard_valeth posted:Wouldn't it be easier for Cell's core to survive after the 1st self destruct survival? You know, cause Zenkai boost and poo poo That core business is baloney. Cell regenerated from a pair of legs once, and he gets his power from Piccolo who regenerated from only his head once. Therefor any part of Cells body can regenerate him. If anything his "core" isn't biological its his soul.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 08:52 |
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Piccolos regeneration! Only happens when its convinient.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 09:19 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 04:40 |
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RBX posted:17 meeting Trunks has to happen soon.
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 09:43 |