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This was probably like 10 or 12 years ago but the one time I played in a regular ball hockey pickup it was clearly run by guys who sucked at real hockey and couldn't wait to show off their mad ball skills on a bunch of scrubs who keep falling down on roller blades.
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Apr 15, 2017 18:06
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Hmm, I suck at real hockey. Should I throw away my skates and go own bitches in ball hockey? What if I suck at ball hockey too?
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Apr 15, 2017 18:10
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Ball hockey is fun and got me into Ice hockey (no cheap ice where I was, so when I grew up we played in a ball league).
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Apr 15, 2017 19:03
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We used to play ball hockey every now and then inside an abandoned grocery store. The shelves were all gone so it was nice and open. Grocery carts laid on their sides for goals. Ah, small town life.
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Apr 16, 2017 08:41
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Hockey Puke Story: For the last few years, we started bringing a Puke bucket to the first game of the season, as we were always out of shape over the summer, and it took us at least a couple of games to get our bodies back used to the intensity and exhaustion. Every year I tell myself to take it slow, but then I backcheck hard once and it's all over.
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Apr 16, 2017 18:32
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Ball hockey is vastly inferior to ice. It's full of idiots who do nothing but take slap shots at the earliest opportunity. It's decent fun I guess but I'd play ice 100/100 times over ball hockey.
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Apr 16, 2017 19:05
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My scrimmage today turned out to be a 4v4. We booked 2 hours of ice. I'm loving dead fellas.
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Apr 16, 2017 22:33
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Ginette Reno posted:Ball hockey is vastly inferior to ice. It's full of idiots who do nothing but take slap shots at the earliest opportunity. It's decent fun I guess but I'd play ice 100/100 times over ball hockey. Oh, for sure. Given the choice, ice wins every time. Ball hockey is ice hockey's cousin that you don't mind seeing on holidays, but no more than that because he's actually kind of boring.
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Apr 16, 2017 23:37
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I didn't even know ball hockey was a thing. why is that a thing?
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Apr 16, 2017 23:40
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Pretty sure you guys are spelling lacrosse wrong.
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Apr 17, 2017 01:47
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bewbies posted:I didn't even know ball hockey was a thing. why is that a thing? Some places don't have Ice but they've got decent floors that roller skates will go across with no issue. Thus, ball hockey.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:43
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Lacrosse is pretty fun too, although I'm terrrrrrible at it.
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Apr 17, 2017 15:38
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Everytime I go to pure hockey I look at all the lacrosse stuff and wish I had played that as a kid, but I'd definitely just get run over if I tried it now. You can't just glide along with everyone else like you can in hockey.
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Apr 17, 2017 17:18
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I wasn't rich enough to play lacrosse as a kid and ice didn't exist where I live.
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bewbies posted:I didn't even know ball hockey was a thing. why is that a thing? Don't you live in the US? It's been big in Massachusetts/Philadelphia for years. Florida too, and probably other places. It's a thing because you don't need to know dick about anything to play it. Just grab a stick and go take bad angle slap shots like an rear end in a top hat.
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Played in a cancer benefit tournament this weekend and took home the hardware. The first and second game were blowouts 7-1, 7-0. For some reason in the 2nd game their goalie wanted to spend more time attempting to trip/slash/hack my team instead of making saves. The final team was a combination of the team I won a top tier St.Paul league with + another solid team in the same league. They had two guys who were just two years separated from their college careers at Denver and UMD so I knew it'd be a battle. We had a national champion from the 01-02 Gopher squad on our team among other solid D3 players. This tournament had a deal where if you paid $60 you get a free penalty shot (money went to charity obviously) so I was pretty afraid this would come into play and possibly tilt me. They did score on their chance which made it a 2-2 game but we ended up winning 5-3 including the empty netter. The game was a really fun team win, I had to make a lot of big saves and so did the opposing tender who played great. Hockey is fun and good and for charity its an added bonus.
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Apr 17, 2017 18:17
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Is that the huge 8 sheet arena in Minneapolis? The cafe over the ice looks familiar. I stopped in there once on a work trip and it was a hockey overdose, I couldn't pick which rink to stay at so I wandered between all of them.
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Apr 17, 2017 18:25
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xzzy posted:Is that the huge 8 sheet arena in Minneapolis? The cafe over the ice looks familiar. You're thinking the Super Rink in Blaine, this is actually Highland in St.Paul. The entryway looks almost identical and I didn't even think about that till now.
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Apr 17, 2017 18:28
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Ball hockey is huge in Canada too, they have tournaments all the time. Apparently Alexander Burrows was the best ball hockey player ever, just like completely dominated tournaments. It is a terrible sport though full of the absolute worst people.
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I remember playing ball hockey in gym class through school and it was always my favorite section of PE. When I was older I thought ball hockey was casual like kickball, then I realized its full of the guys at hockey games who yell "SHOOT! HIT HIM! OOOOH FIIIIGHT!" and want to be hockey bros but can't skate. As for lacrosse, my area didn't know that sport even existed. Only a few of the largest rich schools back home have teams. Where I grew up it was football for the jockey/tough guys, baseball for the rednecks who liked to chew tobacco, wresting for weight lifters, basketball for the tall guys and soccer for the pansies. I played every sport, including racing BMX but I was never able to play organized hockey because of the cost, the lack of teams in my area, and the commitment from my family to play. I just played street in the summer, pond in the winter and then eventually started playing inline and ice around 20.
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Apr 17, 2017 19:27
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I have no kids so this is all word of mouth but I've heard lacrosse has gotten huge with kids the last 5 years or so. Not sure why, but I can confirm driving past sports fields I see way more lacrosse than even soccer. This could be biased though as I live pretty close to a commune of yuppies.
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Apr 17, 2017 19:37
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xzzy posted:I have no kids so this is all word of mouth but I've heard lacrosse has gotten huge with kids the last 5 years or so. Not sure why, but I can confirm driving past sports fields I see way more lacrosse than even soccer. Every time I see people playing lacrosse I just think cool sport and all but why wouldn't you just play hockey. But then I think that about just about every sport so
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Apr 17, 2017 19:38
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From a logical standpoint it should be more popular. Its a high speed game that has a fair bit of contact, requires less gear than hockey, doesn't require expensive ice time, isn't as brain-mushing as football, and isn't as boring as soccer.
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Apr 17, 2017 19:49
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Verman posted:From a logical standpoint it should be more popular. No doubt. Hockey has been doubly screwed because for years it has been extremely hard to follow the play on TV. Watching hockey before HD was a challenge for anyone not used to the flow of play. Also hockey is way too goddamned expensive still.
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Lacrosse has definitely seen a resurgence but saying it is more popular than soccer is a bit of a stretch. Otoh the part of North Vancouver I live in is quite dense in people from EMEA so I'm sure my local experience colours this as well. The sport I've been seeing more of is cricket actually. There was a new pitch built for it near my place a year or two ago. And agreed on the hockey cost - my son's league just bumped the cost 10% as they've had numbers decline for the last 4 years and not really any strategy for increasing them 
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Outside of skates I can't see why everything is so damned expensive. It's all injection molded plastic and felt. Sticks are expensive too but wouldn't wood sticks be an alternative for youth hockey or kids playing midget?
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Vargatron posted:Outside of skates I can't see why everything is so damned expensive. It's all injection molded plastic and felt. Sticks are expensive too but wouldn't wood sticks be an alternative for youth hockey or kids playing midget? It's not just equipment. Ice is expensive too. And yeah you can go for cheap equipment but even if you do you're looking at a big investment to pay for equipment, ice, and league fees. Plus travel time/cost. It's a huge investment and one most parents aren't gonna want to make unless they are in love with the sport. I was lucky in that my dad loved hockey and made enough money when I was growing up to let me play, but most kids aren't gonna fit that criteria.
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Skates for kids can still be had cheap, but there's a lot of pressure to get the more expensive stuff - the producers deliberately make the cheap stuff barely functional so that you're forced up-tier to not wreck your kids' ankles or w/e As for sticks - the difference in velocity with a composite vs a woody is so much different that if you want to play at the elite level (even in bantam and midget) you really need to be using composites. They have some cheaper comps so you can dip your toe for around $60/stick but if your kid gets serious about it you're pretty quickly into $200 sticks. OTOH if they end up in house there's a lot less need for this other than "cool factor" I make good money so I can choke it down but I'm basically up to about $1500/year for my loving 7 year old already, with league fees, tourneys, travel, gear, and whatnot. There aren't any ponds to speak of around where I live so I can't just "throw him out wherever on skates". Organized programs are really all their is. My kid is good-ish and he wants to try to get better, and I'm not ready to temper his enthusiasm for it so there's hockey camps and poo poo as well that run several hundred a week during the summer. Another few years and he'll figure out he's 15% shorter than all the other good players and I can steer him into refereeing instead but until then it will be an expensive trip.
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Well be thankful he's not a goalie at least. That's a big $$$ position.
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Vargatron posted:Well be thankful he's not a goalie at least. That's a big $$$ position. No, he definitely wants to be a goalie. Until Atom they get gear from the league so I have another 2 years of reprieve before I have to eat that cost too.
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Composite sticks for adults are a no brainer. I don't know your 7 year old's exact skill level but my guess would be his shot wouldn't suffer at all with the cheapest stick available. I tell the parents of the kids I coach (10U) to buy their kid whatever, when he can go bar down from the faceoff dots it's time to start worrying about good sticks.
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Apr 17, 2017 20:54
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Chemmy posted:Composite sticks for adults are a no brainer. I don't know your 7 year old's exact skill level but my guess would be his shot wouldn't suffer at all with the cheapest stick available. Yeah my answer got a bit jumbled but I referee Bantam and Midget AAA - it was them I was talking about the high end comp sticks for. My son has a $25 entry level comp that I only got because it was on sale at our local hockey shop, and I use a classic woody to coach because I was never any good with it anyways 
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Ginette Reno posted:Don't you live in the US? It's been big in Massachusetts/Philadelphia for years. Florida too, and probably other places.
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We've been getting a bunch of lacrosse teams in school and weekend rec leagues, whereas 5 years ago if somebody knew a sport other football they'd probably just moved from somewhere else. I have probably 2 or 3 coworkers who have kids in lacrosse, boys and girls both. It's pretty cool, and the kids love it.
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A quick google shows that lacrosse participation in the US has grown from 250,000 in 2001 to 800,000 in 2015. So maybe it's the hockey of the future when trump kills the ice caps and we no longer get cold weather. edit - usa hockey players are increasing about 1% a year, lacrosse is managing 3%. Lacrosse actually beats usa hockey in registrations right now (542,583 hockey players last year). xzzy fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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xzzy posted:A quick google shows that lacrosse participation in the US has grown from 250,000 in 2001 to 800,000 in 2015. Lacrosse can get played on a football field, where hockey can only be played in hockey rinks. Think of how many middle/high school football fields/stadiums there are compared to hockey rinks, especially in suburbia.
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yeah gently caress field hockey
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For the longest time I thought Lacrosse was some weird made up sport that American pie invented, because we don't play it in England.
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dogstile posted:For the longest time I thought Lacrosse was some weird made up sport that American pie invented, because we don't play it in England. I mean, you're not wrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacrosse#History
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