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Maybe "Sarah" was using the doves to communicate with the departed? Those notes were written by them, she went crazy when she figured out how to communicate with them and she's spent the rest of her life trying to figure out how to meet her kids?
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HanabaL03 posted:Holy poo poo. What an episode.
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HanabaL03 posted:Holy poo poo. What an episode. For real. I have to say, I laughed when the dramatic music cut out when Dean was explaining the dogs 
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A fantastic first episode. I'm so happy this show is back.
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The parts of this episode that were like "Hey let's justify why like six major characters from the previous seasons probably won't be around anymore" felt a little awkward to me, particularly the sudden missile strike. It kind of felt like something out of a different show to me. Otherwise I dug it.
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Did Kevin try to kill himself, only to be saved by divine intervention again? What happened to Lily? Why shred the money? I get that they don't want to profit off it but why not donate it? No intro at all this season?
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Here's a great article on the first episode of Season 3 and some minor spoilers for future episodes. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/damon-lindelof-leftovers-season-3-994432?utm_source=twitter&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral
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El Jeffe posted:No intro at all this season? This is the one thing I was looking forward to the most. drat you for making us wait another week, Lindelof.
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Thom and the Heads posted:A fantastic first episode. I'm so happy this show is back. Only 7 more 
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gently caress that was good. As usual, Kevin's confused reactions are my favorite. What? I want to believe that wasn't literally Nora in the future but it probably was. Really wanted an intro but next week is fine. Edit: vv poo poo, and that. Probably the same thing as Nora's arm. Ugh next week. SLOSifl fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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Add me to the list of people wondering what happened to Lily.
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Scurvy posted:Add me to the list of people wondering what happened to Lily. I wonder if this will be left intentionally unexplained, a complete mystery even when the show is done. (And yes, I actually do want to find out what happened to Lily too, and I think it would be better if we do find out.)
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Onomarchus posted:I wonder if this will be left intentionally unexplained, a complete mystery even when the show is done. No way they don't give us an answer when they had characters bring it up in the first episode.
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Woo!! What an episode!! This one hosed with me big time.
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I'm thinking the point of the "Sarah" part was to let us know from the beginning that the world is not actually ending in 13 days.El Jeffe posted:Did Kevin try to kill himself, only to be saved by divine intervention again? 1. Maybe, but there was no earthquake. 2. Maybe her real mom somehow got her back? Tommy knew who her real mom was. 3. Maybe to remove the temptation of profit? Lord Krangdar fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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I think it's interesting John is doing the 'palm reading' thing now, considering he roughed up the palm reader last season. Also curious as to where Erika is. I don't think she even got a mention aside from when John was talking about when he was 25. I was interested seeing Dean come back again, but yikes, I was NOT expecting that at all.
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LadyPictureShow posted:Also curious as to where Erika is. I don't think she even got a mention aside from when John was talking about when he was 25. She was already planning on leaving John, their daughter betraying them and then dying probably pushed that process along even further.
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Lord Krangdar posted:She was already planning on leaving John, their daughter betraying them and then dying probably pushed that process along even further.
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Raxivace posted:The parts of this episode that were like "Hey let's justify why like six major characters from the previous seasons probably won't be around anymore" felt a little awkward to me, particularly the sudden missile strike. It kind of felt like something out of a different show to me. That the government gives absolute no fucks about massacring cults and the guilty remnant is something that has been long established in the show. On an unrelated note, brilliant casting for the starting sequence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millerism
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joepinetree posted:That the government gives absolute no fucks about massacring cults and the guilty remnant is something that has been long established in the show.
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There's something so sad that John and Laurie have just grown comfortable in this life of lying to people now. That was actually one of the saddest things that stuck out to me in the premiere.
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Le Saboteur posted:There's something so sad that John and Laurie have just grown comfortable in this life of grifting people now. That was actually one of the saddest things that stuck out to me in the premiere. That's not what happened. They were trying to give people closure and then shredding the money. This time she's using John very, very much like she used to use Tommy. A supernatural version of therapy. As I recall, there was also an explicit instruction to hug given. I bet I also I missed something(s) in the new episode. The show is meant to be rewatched or at least mined for all these little details.
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joepinetree posted:That the government gives absolute no fucks about massacring cults and the guilty remnant is something that has been long established in the show. The three (?) scenes we've seen so far shows the government and especially the ATF is taking a firm kill em all approach to cults. We see them open up on Holy Wayne's compound without warning. They have that giant processing plant we see where the bodies of the GR and other cult members go. Shooting a hellfire at their little hide out didn't seem that crazy to me. Especially after Meg's speech about the tiger biting the magicians. They are even renamed the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Explosives, and Cults. The approach makes me want to see a wider glimpse of what the US has become post-departure. Is it pretty much the same except they take a more direct approach towards cults, militias, and domestic terrorists in general? Is it a police state now?
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Why are we spoiling? Isn't this a 'live' thread? This episode was pretty great. I really hope the fate of the GR isn't some kind of fakeout. I hope we're done with them. They're basically terrorists so it was pretty drat satisfying. The idea of a Gospel Of Kevin is pretty drat funny too.
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Erika must have Lily, right? Did Nora give her away or did Erika take her?
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I hope they constantly tease the departed returning, but they never do throughout the whole season. Then the last shot of the show is the camera zooming through a field towards a man walking with his back turned. Finally the camera catches up to him and he stops and turns around and it's Gary Busey.
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For such a grim show sometimes, I sure laughed at many things this episode: Gary Busey, "You mean 'paws'", Matt's burning bush story, and others. That use of that Simon & Garfunkel song was pretty brilliant. I'm still tickled that this premiered on Easter Sunday. And that ending sure gave this final season a different spin than I was expecting. They played it really well too since it looked like it could've been Garvey Sr. for a while. I liked that they set up Nora riding the bike earlier in the episode. joepinetree posted:That the government gives absolute no fucks about massacring cults and the guilty remnant is something that has been long established in the show. Titan posted:The three (?) scenes we've seen so far shows the government and especially the ATF is taking a firm kill em all approach to cults. We see them open up on Holy Wayne's compound without warning. They have that giant processing plant we see where the bodies of the GR and other cult members go. Shooting a hellfire at their little hide out didn't seem that crazy to me. Especially after Meg's speech about the tiger biting the magicians. They are even renamed the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Explosives, and Cults. Speaking of this, one of the religious sects that came from the Millerite movement--and the debacle of "The Great Disappointment"--were the Branch Davidians AKA Vernon Howell/David Koresh AKA Waco. And we all know how that ended. Sound familiar when we're talking about how the government has dealt with the Guilty Remnant and other post-Sudden Departure groups?
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Anyone else find themselves turning off HBO shows before the preview of the next week's show? There's no way I'm not seeing the show next week. The guy who plays John continues to be one of the most dynamic actors I've ever seen.
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Thom and the Heads posted:Anyone else find themselves turning off HBO shows before the preview of the next week's show? There's no way I'm not seeing the show next week. I actually love spoilers and salivate during the credits waiting for it.
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Thom and the Heads posted:Anyone else find themselves turning off HBO shows before the preview of the next week's show? There's no way I'm not seeing the show next week. The guy who plays John continues to be one of the most dynamic actors I've ever seen.
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joepinetree posted:That the government gives absolute no fucks about massacring cults and the guilty remnant is something that has been long established in the show. One of my nitpicks with last season's finale - as good as it was - was that, on the anniversary of the Departure, the US Government would not have increased security at a national park directly connected to the event and known to attract zealots. We know the feds take a brute force approach to new wave religious movements in the post-Departure world (don't forget the ATFEC guy in Season 1 implied to Kevin that they could "took care" of Mapleton's GR branch,) you mean to tell me they really would not be in a perimeter around the park armed to the teeth, and that they'd entrust security to local law enforcement and a handful of park rangers? Or that they wouldn't mobilize troops as soon as somebody parked a suspected bomb on the bridge and initiated a countdown? The opening scene was a nice resolution to my pedantry. They might not have been prepared for Meg's stunt, but they sure as hell weren't going to let it go. JethroMcB fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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Thom and the Heads posted:Anyone else find themselves turning off HBO shows before the preview of the next week's show? There's no way I'm not seeing the show next week. The guy who plays John continues to be one of the most dynamic actors I've ever seen. I don't mind them, because for HBO it's usually vague 'in the next weeks' stuff, and yesterday's preview didn't give away anything that hadn't already been given up in the promos. Seconding the love for John. Kevin Carroll has some serious chops. Also, a fun little article about the Busey balloon: https://www.google.com/amp/www.indiewire.com/2017/04/the-leftovers-gary-busey-balloon-season-3-departed-1201805544/amp/
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Overall a decent episode. Maybe the Lily story is tied to Nora's broken arm? I don't get why John is clinging to the belief that Evie is still alive, but it must mean that she is.
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Aexo posted:I don't get why John is clinging to the belief that Evie is still alive, but it must mean that she is. Why does that necessarily have to be true 
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Evie totally survived a bomb dropping on her head.
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Aexo posted:Overall a decent episode. No, she's dead.
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Aexo posted:I don't get why John is clinging to the belief that Evie is still alive, but it must mean that she is. The entire show has been about people unable to process grief after loss where there's no physical proof that anything happened to them other than simply vanishing, so now John is established as a character who has definitive proof of his loved one's death (There was at least enough left of Evie to confirm her dental records,) yet ironically refuses to accept it. It's a natural evolution for his character - John wasn't able to process the idea that Evie left of her own volition three years ago, why would he now accept her second sudden and far more permanent departure from his life? I know it's going to be important to where his character's story is going - but this early on, who knows where that's going to be. Also why the hell haven't the cleaned up the crater in the ensuing three years? Lawsuit interference? Or did the ATFEC leave it there intentionally as a "warning" to people coming into Jarden?
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