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bewbies posted:Cages are really kind of terrible and if I had pro athlete health insurance and my livelihood depended on my being good at hockey I would strongly resist wearing one. I grew up wearing one so they don't bother me much. In fact I put one back on after switching to a visor because I got tired of getting hit in the fuckin' teeth in beer league. The complaints about them have always been overblown imo. D1 players do just fine with them. I wouldn't want to see NHL players wearing them though. Imagine how fearless the rear end in a top hat players would be with a full cage.
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glynnenstein posted:Unless a player is killed on the ice by an injury that would plausibly be prevented by a cage, I don't think you'll see them. Vision, fighting, danger to un-caged others, marketing faces, etc. this is assuming the NHL ever figures out that marketing individual players is a good idea
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The marketing excuse is the most bullshit reason for not using cages of them all. The most profitable league in north america has cages in front of every player's face when they're on the field and they somehow manage to market the gently caress out of their athletes just fine. It's so silly that "looking cool" is a more justifiable excuse. The argument comes down to visibility vs safety. As long as there's a performance advantage to using visors, visors will be what NHLers use. No one cares about safety when they have free access to top shelf painkillers and unlimited access to reconstructive surgery.
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Apr 17, 2017 15:29
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Gunjin posted:Schmidt in for one of those two would be the only change I'd want, but it won't happen. It's frustrating because Shattenkirk has been an upgrade on the blueline but since Trotz is keeping Schmidt out of the lineup the overall impact of the trade hasn't been as great as it could have been. It's effectively been Shattenkirk upgrading Schmidt rather than Shattenkirk upgrading Orpik or Alzner. Also for fucks sake do not play the 4th line more than the 3rd line again. It's nice that Tom Wilson scored a goal but the 4th line has been dogshit while the third line has been pretty good. I'm so sick of Trotz preferring his grinders.
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Apr 17, 2017 15:33
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xzzy posted:The marketing excuse is the most bullshit reason for not using cages of them all. The most profitable league in north america has cages in front of every player's face when they're on the field and they somehow manage to market the gently caress out of their athletes just fine. I didn't say they were good reasons, but this is the NHL where part of the resistance to helmets was because it impacted identifying players.
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Apr 17, 2017 15:37
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Not that I'd complain about wearing helmets but when you watch old games it really was goddamn cool how good the players looked. Hockey in the 70s was just a beautiful thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGjpo8CxqXY jean beliveau  Also is that the game with the most hall of famers in it? I think I count 12?
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a false posted:Fire Alain Vigneault No don't.
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i honestly wonder whether there is a coach alive who would do the right thing and not dress his worst players if they are Good Team Guys who used to maybe be good at some point (see: dan girardi) but there has to be a coach alive who would never have called tanner glass back up, never have played tanner glass over pavel buchnevich, and never got a hardon for tanner glass in the first place
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Cartoon Man posted:Barry Trotz is threatening to tweak the lineup tonight which usually means Backstrom and Kuznetsov switch places. I would hope that wouldn't prove necessary, but we'll see. I also suspect that Holtby will be on a short leash tonight, if only to light a fire in the rest of the team as opposed to him deserving of being pulled. Putting the guy who has a lifetime .937 sv% in the playoffs, and who is playing at that level right now, on a short leash is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. I don't think Trotz is that dumb. Washington's goaltending has nothing to do with the difficulty the Caps have had against Toronto, and "lighting a fire" isn't worth downgrading your goaltending.
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don't get me wrong i think AV is a good coach and will do well once again when he goes somewhere else but i have always believed that any coach has a limited shelf life with any given team and i think that we are clearly seeing the results of AV having surpassed his in new york, unable to view his team with fresh eyes and make the roster decisions that he needs to
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Apr 17, 2017 16:03
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Veteran move by Price to let in that Glass goal in game one
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bewbies posted:Not that I'd complain about wearing helmets but when you watch old games it really was goddamn cool how good the players looked. Hockey in the 70s was just a beautiful thing. God I love this. Old hockey is great. That goaltending.
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bewbies posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGjpo8CxqXY The 2002 western conference finals had more. The Wings alone had 10 Red Wings: Yzerman, Larionov, Datsyuk, Federov, Shanahan, Hull, Robataille, Lidstrom, Chelion, Hasek. Avalanche: Forsberg, Sakic, Blake, Roy
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a false posted:i honestly wonder whether there is a coach alive who would do the right thing and not dress his worst players if they are Good Team Guys who used to maybe be good at some point (see: dan girardi) but there has to be a coach alive who would never have called tanner glass back up, never have played tanner glass over pavel buchnevich, and never got a hardon for tanner glass in the first place I dunno I feel like Mike Sullivan helped get rid of the old veteran garbage on his team and hasn't been afraid to play young players like Guentzel, Sheary, and Rust in the lineup. Even calling Sestito up has been for very specific (though lovely) purposes and hasn't lasted very long.
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Mind_Taker posted:I dunno I feel like Mike Sullivan helped get rid of the old veteran garbage on his team and hasn't been afraid to play young players like Guentzel, Sheary, and Rust in the lineup. Even calling Sestito up has been for very specific (though lovely) purposes and hasn't lasted very long. It took him a while to trust Guentzel. Kunitz spent months and months dragging Crosby down. But yeah overall I have few complaints. There is quite simply no way that the young guys the Pens have now become the same players under Shero/Bylsma that they have under JR/Sullivan. The Pens saying gently caress it and throwing caution to the wind and bringing these kids along not only got them a cup but has them well positioned to get more. How many coaches would have Sheary/Guentzel with Crosby when they have Kessel and Hornqvist to choose from? Hell Hornqvist is on the third line right now though I'm sure at least part of that has to do with Sullivan's obsession with rolling three strong lines.
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Obviously the solution to hockey helmets is to invent deflector shields so players can encase their head in a bubble of invisible energy that prevents all concussions and prevents all pucks from ever inflicting damage. They can power them with poles sticking up from their back that connect to an electrified grid, bumper car style.
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Zodijackylite posted:The 2002 western conference finals had more. The Wings alone had 10 Edmonton - Islanders in '85 had 12 too. Edmonton - Gretzky, Coffee, Kurri, Messier, Anderson, Fuhr Islanders - Bossy, Trottier, Potvin, Gillies, LaFontaine, Smith I'm actually curious what Stanley Cup Final has the fewest Hall of Famers (or presumptive hall of famers, in terms of more recent years).
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the only thing i really worry about with sullivan is that hes going to grind his players to dust blocking shots because if there's one thing him and torts have in common its that they loving love shot blocking
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xzzy posted:Obviously the solution to hockey helmets is to invent deflector shields so players can encase their head in a bubble of invisible energy that prevents all concussions and prevents all pucks from ever inflicting damage. If they're like the defensive shields in Dune, which only block high-speed stuff, you could even still have fighting!
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Pornographic Memory posted:the only thing i really worry about with sullivan is that hes going to grind his players to dust blocking shots because if there's one thing him and torts have in common its that they loving love shot blocking Let me tell you about Guy Boucher and Erik Karlsson's 201 blocked shots.
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Pornographic Memory posted:the only thing i really worry about with sullivan is that hes going to grind his players to dust blocking shots because if there's one thing him and torts have in common its that they loving love shot blocking Worked out fine last year. I think it's part of their game and they need to do it to win. Their defensive scheme tends to be collapsing and blocking shots a la the New York Rangers Torts teams. Then they counter with speed. Taking that away is taking away half of their game. Jordan7hm posted:Edmonton - Islanders in '85 had 12 too. Carolina-Edmonton had to be it or close to it. Carolina: Recchi and mayyyyyybe (but probably not) Eric Staal Edmonton: Pronger
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Mind_Taker posted:It's frustrating because Shattenkirk has been an upgrade on the blueline but since Trotz is keeping Schmidt out of the lineup the overall impact of the trade hasn't been as great as it could have been. It's effectively been Shattenkirk upgrading Schmidt rather than Shattenkirk upgrading Orpik or Alzner. Some team is going to overpay out the rear end for Alzner this summer, and regret it sooner than later. Beagle line has looked like rear end, and Burakovsky has looked like a world beater with the puck on his stick, so of course Trotz will keep overplaying his grinders instead of letting his talent run free.
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Jordan7hm posted:Edmonton - Islanders in '85 had 12 too. + sather & arbour edit it was 84 The Golden Man fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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Here's a cool article about William Nylander's time in DC. I saw his dad coaching him before a beer league game of mine and that little bastard was dominating the older kids who towered over him.
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Ginette Reno posted:It took him a while to trust Guentzel. Kunitz spent months and months dragging Crosby down. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. part of what's unique about sully is that he has experience with a lot of the young guys from his time in wbs. and it turns out that most of those young guys are extremely competent (putting it mildly) NHL caliber players. Pretty insanely lucky set of circumstances, really. But thank god sullivan isn't squandering it
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So apparently Alzner is maybe hurt and is a gametime decision. If Schmidt can't get into the lineup over a banged up Alzner then I will be really pissed.
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Watching the canada-swiss U18 game, and i think the oilers should draft Nando Eggenberger off the swiss team, just so we can have someone called Nando Eggenberger on the team.
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Zodijackylite posted:The 2002 western conference finals had more. The Wings alone had 10 I think any good team the red wings played that year had a ton of hofers. I saw them play the blues that year and the blues had pronger and McInnis I think and it was like seeing a 90s all Star game and owned .
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DJExile posted:hahahahahaha I took online video conferencing classes for my Masters and put a piece of paper taped next to the webcam on my laptop with ON AIR written in big, black letters. The camera was only on if the instructor gave it to you, but some of them would randomly "call" on you for a question and the white light would come on. It also helped protect from hot mic incidents. One of my favorite things about attending NASCAR races is being able to hear the broadcasters talking on my scanner during commercial breaks. Darrell Waltrip once bitched about his laptop being a piece of poo poo during the 2008 Daytona 500; MRN Radio guys will, at least once a race, refer to the Sinclair sisters. Don't know who they are. Don't want to, either.
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Mind_Taker posted:So apparently Alzner is maybe hurt and is a gametime decision. If Schmidt can't get into the lineup over a banged up Alzner then I will be really pissed. But, but... ironman! Mind_Taker posted:Also for fucks sake do not play the 4th line more than the 3rd line again. It's nice that Tom Wilson scored a goal but the 4th line has been dogshit while the third line has been pretty good. I'm so sick of Trotz preferring his grinders. I love Bura, but I'm less sure about Eller and Connolly. Eller can't win a faceoff for his life. I actually like the idea of switching Backstrom and Kuzy. Kuzy has looked dynamic but he hasn't been able to finish. Playing with Ovi might give him more space.
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Ginette Reno posted:It took him a while to trust Guentzel. Kunitz spent months and months dragging Crosby down. I wonder if we dangle Hornqvist and protect Rust when the time comes, thinking about where they fall in the lineup. God it's going to suck losing any of our forward depth at this point - I wonder if we'll go the ol' bribe pick and C-level prospect route.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Werenski is out the rest of the playoffs with a facial fracture As much as a cage is said to obscure one's vision, I imagine having your eye swollen shut would affect you more.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Werenski is out the rest of the playoffs with a facial fracture Yeah well at least his cheeks glowed rosy red on (national?) TV for three whole games.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Werenski is out the rest of the playoffs with a facial fracture I'm surprised he's only going to miss one game; that looked really bad.
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Ginette Reno posted:Worked out fine last year. I think it's part of their game and they need to do it to win. Their defensive scheme tends to be collapsing and blocking shots a la the New York Rangers Torts teams. Then they counter with speed. Taking that away is taking away half of their game. Yeah I think we can safely say that's going to be 2. LA vs. NJ is probably 2 as well - fatman and Doughty. Elias & some of the LA forwards might end up sneaking in, but probably shouldn't.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Werenski is out the rest of the playoffs with a facial fracture
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Jordan7hm posted:Yeah I think we can safely say that's going to be 2. Elias has got a pretty good case. Best forward on several Cup teams plus 1k points. He's close.
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